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@netscrewtality @JazOrWtv @JrGary3 @LASHYBILLS Ehh I guess that’s fair. I don’t know what porks ever done

@Specter1g @JazOrWtv @JrGary3 @LASHYBILLS Muslims who demand you stop eating it because somehow bacon offends them but HEAD CHOPPING is cool.

@LASHYBILLS if your BOY, beaten by a woman cop. just shut the fuck up and stop embarassing yourself and your punk ass blight. Daddy Din Do Nuffin

@_GAi92 so you want to block me Alr then. You explained how the engine works. Cool. People are still debating whether feeding millions of artists’ works into that engine without permission is fair. Those are two separate conversations.

@_GAi92 @SibeyVT @grok No, it said the technical explanation was mostly accurate while the ethical/legal conclusion is still disputed. That’s not “backing you up,” that’s acknowledging nuance instead of pretending the debate is settled.

@Specter1g @SibeyVT @grok You asked it a vague question so you could use its vague answer. A vague answer that, if you read it, disproved what you was trying to prove. I then asked Grok a very specific question, with clear guide lines and it gave a clear answer, an answer your ChatGPT also backed up.

I have a question for Anti AI artists? When you do to school and learn how to draw, paint, sculpt, and what not….are you not just copying work that has previously been created to learn how to draw or paint? And if you take that skill of drawing and then start selling your drawings after learning how to draw in someone else’s work and making money on it are you not being hypocritical towards AI for doing the exact same thing? I’m genuinely curious what artists have to say on this, no animosity here, I’d really like to get some input and some insight into why artists think AI steals when it was given data that was purchased from sites like Deviant Art over an artist learning from a book or a teacher for whom they have bought or sold their knowledge for you to learn as well. I’d love to debate this, but any trash talking and attack is not going to be accepted, please be respectful and don’t let emotions take over.

@_GAi92 @SibeyVT @grok Man I’m tired of debates at this point I’m fucking tired and the other guy just blocked me after showing him ChatGPT agreeing and saying there are guard rails soo I’m gonna take a break from this

@Specter1g @SibeyVT @grok You literally see tons of art on Twitter every day, did ANY of those artists consent to you storing their art in your subconscious?

@_GAi92 @SibeyVT @grok Replying to a tweet isn’t comparable to ingesting millions of artworks to build a product that can imitate artists at industrial scale. That’s the distinction people are arguing about.

I never agreed for you to learn the patterns of my tweets, yet here are. Reading them anyway. Learning from them, whether you realize it or not. And your next tweet will likely be a direct response to mine, which means you learned from my tweet the words I typed. I didn't consent to that.

@_GAi92 @SibeyVT @grok And yes ai is helping me here not replacing my job yall keep on talking your shit for a community that doesn’t even like you and if it does that’s because they hate their jobs. Stop forcing yourself into a community that’s doesn’t even want you

You just used AI, which you think has rails that can fail, to do your research for you. Do you not see the irony? But since you want to go the AI Helper route, allow me to ask the question in a way that gets a proper answer, not one that's "technically correct". @grok Explain in simple terms whether or not image gen models like Stable Diffusion steal art or learn from art. Use the actual definition of Stealing. If AI does not steal, but rather learns, then explain in simple terms how it breaks down complex concepts into simple ones and whether or not this allows it to generate images outside of its training data.

@_GAi92 @SibeyVT @grok Saying “it’s just learning patterns” ignores the scale. A human inspired by art isn’t the same as scraping millions of artworks to mass-produce imitations in seconds.

@_GAi92 @SibeyVT @grok Not storing exact copies” doesn’t automatically make it ethical. If millions of artists’ works were used without consent to build commercial tools that mimic their styles, people are going to question it

@SibeyVT @_GAi92 Bitch say what again

@Specter1g @_GAi92 I don’t think you have any grasp on how AI works, if you are going to debate a point that’s fine, but you should understand how something works even slightly before making things up, this exactly why I asked the questions I did, I’m not an artist and I’ve said that.

@heruwath @TheChrisLambert Yes. Have you ever seen a masterpiece get discarded.

@Specter1g @TheChrisLambert And you want to get rid of AI for that?

Here’s how this works: A human made choices based on their entire life. Guiding the brush is everything they’ve ever felt, everything they’ve ever experienced. The art reflects them. AI follows an algorithm and amalgamates the works of others. It’s soulless.

@heruwath @TheChrisLambert Well I guess that’s fair

@Specter1g @TheChrisLambert Congress can't decide for the whole world.

@heruwath @TheChrisLambert Well I feel the regulations are too strict because I want to enter my Mercedes clr gtr. Why can’t I put in my Mercedes clr gtr

@Specter1g @TheChrisLambert That's why you have regulations. Do I really have to explain basics?

@heruwath @TheChrisLambert Replaced by ai

@heruwath @TheChrisLambert Tbh I kind of just want the new generation of artists feel like they’re making their art for no reason and lose motivation. It pisses me off to see people saying that ai is taking over the industry when they’re are kids that have worked hard to build up their talent just to be

@heruwath @TheChrisLambert But the self driving car has horsepower of 600 percent and a 6.1 potent

@Specter1g @TheChrisLambert But they have a car like that. You are basically describing how formula 1 works without the self driving aspect. Drivers and teams train themself on the data they collect from winning teams.

@_GAi92 @SibeyVT Or maybe it knows enough to just outline your hand and fill it in. I mean it’s common sense.

I used to draw, and now I do AI. I train LoRAs as a hobby and even trained one on my own artstyle. AI learns the same way a human does. It observes, it understands labels and it breaks complex concepts into simple ones. Then, when asked, it can recombine simple concepts back into complex ones. The misinformation about AI stealing comes from a poorly trained model. If you only ever showed a brand new consciousness images of your open hand, then asked it to draw a hand (in any pose) it willy ONLY know your open hand. It literally has no context for other hands or poses. Did it steal your hand? Or did it just not have enough knowledge on the subject of hands to draw a unique hand? This is how AI learns. And over training an AI will make it lose context and will result in images that closely resemble the training data - it doesn't have enough context to NOT copy the data so closely.

@NemeHexOffical @SibeyVT Well that’s a good view on it but think of it like this. We don’t copy we imitate. We can’t learn anyone’s style just like that we discover our own. We don’t just generate shit out of thin air so get your head out of the gutter and start thinking about what you think

@SibeyVT I mean it's true, first nothing is really original anymore.. it's a rehashed version of someone elses work.. people copy other artists styles and go make money off it.. who paid, and asked tite kubo so that we can copy his style and make money off it.. no one.. If effort /1