Hide The Pain Lionel

@feniu2137 @TruTomFoolery @MaceAhWindu They're rare, but the lore does state female earth kingdom soldiers do exist

@TruTomFoolery @MaceAhWindu I don't recall female soldiers in the earth kingdom. Only the Kyoshi warriors were the exception to the rule on an island that's mostly isolated, with their own traditions

What’s this supposed to infer?

@Maplenormer @ItsLulu_7 I never said anything about needing national control.

@SpookyGhost8413 @ItsLulu_7 Go tell that to all of the English & law professors on the planet whom gifted me that information. I'm certain that when you argue Mexican food trucks don't have monopolies in neighborhoods because they don't have dominate control nationally, you'll be laughed at.

Capitalism sets the rules

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 We'll have to agree to disagree

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Wrong, existence ≠ enforcement.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Its not anarchy at all. These are government interacting with each other

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Yes, thats why its a decent analogy for anarchist society. The world stage is decentralized anarchism. Its just scaled up. Youre not making the point you think youre making.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 As to your comment on the world stage. Its a decentralized community of governments. It works because stable governments with power enforce those norms through coercion, either militarily or economically.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Existence of rights is enforcement of rights

@Maplenormer @ItsLulu_7 You don't know what a monopoly is

@SpookyGhost8413 @ItsLulu_7 No, that's not a monopoly. That's a strong competitor.

@BigMoperson @JohnRad15 Buddy, you just been stating a circular argument this entire time calling it facts.

@SpookyGhost8413 @JohnRad15 Yep, the cope from the anti capitalists hate that they cant argue the facts.

Wrong, the working class struggles in the US and I am sick of people flippantly denying it.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 The mass outsourcing of force is government.

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Rights as you are thinking about them is "government says you cant take peoples stuff" essentially its just outsourcing force. The necessary point being force as defence. Not government. An outside government could Overpower youre government and take your stuff too..

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Property rights is not owning property, property rights is no one is able to forcibly take your property.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Then thats not property rights, that might makes right. If I can take your property, you can't take it back from me, and you can't get outside intervention, then you just don't own that property anymore.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 I'm not, but inevitably not everyone is sufficiently able to protect their own property.

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 All properties would be defended to whatever degree they can by those who have interest in doing so. Why would you even assume only your own property is protected as if nobody else is allowed to defend their stuff.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 You're right, and for that, private property in general needs to be protected. Not just individuals protecting their own property.

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Yes sir it does, the characteristics that make capitlism are free markets and private property. Thats it.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 You're right, its that combined with the coercive force to compel others to follow those norms.

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Im not, the enforcement of norms ≠ government. Thats a ridiculous assertion to make.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 If your property is the only property protected, that is not sufficient for capitalism to exist.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 I never said anything about personal or private property or a distinction between these things. You owning things and individually protecting them, house, business, whatever, is not capitalism. Its a wider system. Its a market economy.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 You are wrong when you say this.

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 No as I already explained it is not.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 No, but that also isnt sufficient to be dubbed "capitalism" on its own either.

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 For example, if own a "means of production" and hire a security force to protect it, that is NOT government. I am settle an individual standard for my own boundaries. I may be governing my own propery but that isnt government its just running your affairs.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Then be more clear with your language. "Defending your shit is not a de facto government" is not a rebuttal to my claim if my claim is not talking about you individually defending your own property.

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Why do commies always disingenuously put words into peoples mouths. I didnt claim having a house is capitalism. No, the method of how you settle dispute and how its enforced matters to whether it is government or not.

@Tim99707046 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 A private security force is not a government in and of itself, but if its maintaining control of an area and enforcing rules, it is.

@SpookyGhost8413 @lapdoteth @brettblackham @ItsLulu_7 Ive not once said anything about monoploizing anything. Enforcement of norms is not defacto government thats a ridiculous assertion. I wouldnt even call a private security force a government thats definitely moving in the direction but is not a government defacto. Youre incorrect