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Jordan was retired at age 41…with 6 rings, 6 FMVPs, 5 MVPs, and one DPOY.
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JORDAN WASNT DOING THIS AT 41 #lakeshow
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I fact check and I provide historical context. Formerly @SportsNMore1453 Feel free to use my graphics to fact check others. https://t.co/i3NZ9yOBmI
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Not as good as MJ’s stretch adjusted for era but damn it’s not far off offensively. Luka is on fire…Mavs blew it
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Luka Doncic during Lakers’ 8-game win streak: 60 PTS, 7 REB, 3 AST 40 PTS, 10 AST, 9 REB 36 PTS, 6 REB, 4 AST 30 PTS, 13 AST, 11 REB 51 PTS, 10 REB, 9 AST 31 PTS, 11 REB, 11 AST 35 PTS, 8 REB, 4 AST 44 PTS, 9 REB, 5 AST 40.9 PPG, 8.9 RPG, 7.4 APG
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@DavidSmith77211 @MellowSpazout @Kevind2703_ @Hoopss All you proved is Jordan isn’t god. So what? Who argued that? This is a comparison of MJ and Bron. Bron missed more playoffs and had more seasons he didn’t make to the 2R than MJ. And most importantly:
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@MellowSpazout @Kevind2703_ @SportsStatsFan @Hoopss Jordan didn't make the playoffs was bounced in the first round or knocked out before the finals nine times in his career. Y'all make it sound like he was undefeated in his life. He's a piece of shit cokehead alcoholic gambler who got his father murdered.
Still the goat though.
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— Kareem at 41 only averaging 10.1 PPG
— Jordan at 41 out of the league
— Kobe at 41 out of the league
— Shaq at 41 out of of the league
— Magic at 41 out of the league
— Bird at 41 out of the league
— Hakeem at 41 out of the league
Meanwhile, 41 year old LeBron James putting up 30 PTS on 92% in his 23rd season.
This is why he's the GREATEST
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@KBSN4433 @SteveKim323 @whateverbs99 That first play demonstrates that very well! The dribbler did a fake and MJ didn’t bite but then guessed where the player was headed next and moved closer on him so he couldn’t even get the shot off zz
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@SportsStatsFan @SteveKim323 @whateverbs99 He was unreal. Lightning quick. Always anticipating where the ball was going. And with a motor that never seemed to stop
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How about some Jordan defensive highlights to show why he’s one of the best perimeter defenders of all time.
Credit @whateverbs99
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He literally made a comment to start that added no value. What does Jordan not making the finals all the time prove?
What I posted is some evidence of how MJ is better than Bron but Jordan not making the finals more often only proves he’s not perfect and isn’t god but it isn’t an argument for Bron better than MJ
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@DavidSmith77211 @MikeKli57417223 @MellowSpazout @SportsStatsFan @Hoopss Yet here you are being a bitch just to argue with people online...
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@DavidSmith77211 @Kevind2703_ @Hoopss What was the point of your original comment? So what if Jordan didn’t make the finals more often? This is a comparison with Bron and Jordan won a title in 40% of seasons he played vs 17% for Bron
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@SportsStatsFan @Kevind2703_ @Hoopss Get it all out weirdo, get back at it in the morning, super fruit 🌈😭🌈😭🌈😭🌈
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@DavidSmith77211 @Kevind2703_ @Hoopss Then why make that original argument you made?!
You can’t explain it without being proof that you were defending LeBron with a bad argument
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Each generation alway say that. And 6’2 curry was better than KD so double bad argument there since Curry proves “6’11 forward that can score from any spot” doesn’t mean as much as you think it means
KD is also stupid with the ball. He can’t handle double teams nor make the right decisions
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@jakejustice12 @SportsStatsFan @Hoopss Its hard to advance past a 6’11 forward that can score from any spot past half court but okay
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@kevtalley @Najeero And David Robinson needs to be in that discussion too
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@kevtalley @Najeero Shaq had a lot better footwork. He had a certain speed wilt didn’t. But Wilt could jump higher and run faster.
So I can see the case for Shaq but IMO, he’s 2nd to Wilt
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This is Wemby weakness…someone like Shaq. But he wouldn’t guard Shaq, he would be the double team. Otherwise, he’s going to be bullied.’
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The new generation really thinks Victor Wembanyama is stopping this man 😭
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@DavidSmith77211 @Kevind2703_ @Hoopss Said the dumbass that doesn’t think we can tell you’re trying to defend LeBron
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@SportsStatsFan @Hoopss Don't forget to put the stat under Jordan that says he couldn't make the finals nine times in his career.
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@DavidSmith77211 @Kevind2703_ @Hoopss Jordan didn’t win a title in 9 seasons.
Bron didn’t win a title in 19 seasons
Jordan won a title in 40% of seasons
Bron won in 17%of seasons
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@Kevind2703_ @SportsStatsFan @Hoopss Not sure what your dumbass is talking about because I'm not a bron fan. Just reminding you that Jordan missed the finals nine times, didn't go undefeated in basketball. Dude failed a whole bunch until he got a hold of Scottie pippen and later rodman after he got his father killed
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@uhatebasketball Moses is highly underrated. I don’t have him top 14 but I have him a tier of players 15-22. Most younger fans don’t even put him top 22 or even top 25.
He was the best player 1982 & 83 and top 2 player 1979-1984. Tremendous run.
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@Mj_TheNorthGawd I really am going to check out AI. I haven’t seen a legit game (not including highlights) of him since he played and he played before YouTube really was YouTube so we couldn’t see breakdowns of his plays in the 2000’s and prior
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@SportsStatsFan It definitely was not as bad as SGA/Harden. Iverson did it within the rulebook, (the whole player cylinder rule) whereas the other 2 stretched that rulebook of the cylinder to new levels. Harden popularised it then SGA mastered what Harden did.
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This was the birth of the off arm push off to create space. Once they let Harden do it regularly, the gates were open
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@says_me1 @JLSports24 Yup, it has that modern “popularity” vibe even like “most improved” and in the NBA “sixth man of the year”. Those are awards that were made to just have more awards and spread the popularity of the sport. Same reason movie industry has so many awards
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Yeah. Seems like a more modern “popularity” kind of award… the first guy was Jim Martin in ‘63. He missed the entire 1962 season… then literally “came back” in ‘63.
Not sure if it was from injury, but he returned and led the league in FGs. So I have to research a bit to see if they cooked the award up just for him
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#NFL | MVP | BlitzSportsMedia.com
The 1964 MVP went back to Johnny Unitas. While this wasn’t his most productive season, it was absolutely his most efficient.
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#sportcoin
His career-best efficiency numbers, along with league rank 1️⃣, include:
🏈Yds/Attempt (9.3) 1️⃣
🏈Yds/Cmp (17.9) 1️⃣
🏈ANY/A (7.84) 1️⃣
🏈Int% (2.0) 2️⃣
🏈Passer Rtg (96.4, his 2nd best) 2️⃣
Perhaps more important… it was also his winningest season @ 12-2
It should be noted that Unitas played mainly as a field general that year, with only 41% of plays called as passes
🏈In that era, the Colts were roughly a 50/50 team in terms of rushing v. passing
🏈However, that year 9 different players got double digit touches, 6 of which were in the rushing game
🏈That seasons Comeback Player of the Year, Lenny Moore led the way with 41% of those touches as run-plays, leading the league in rushing TDs
🏈This run-first approach orchestrated by Johnny U as the primary play-caller, seemed to surprise opponents as the team won 11 games in a row after losing the season opener
He was back to his 3000 passing-yard-ways in a few seasons, but this campaign highlighted his control of the game and versatility… says me😉
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#NFL | MVP | BlitzSportsMedia.com The 1963 NFL MVP was awarded to the grizzled veteran Y.A. Tittle. He was 37 & the oldest MVP winner until Tom Brady won the award in 2017 at age 40 #Giants #sportcoin 🏈Tittle played in Championship games across 3️⃣ decades with 3️⃣ different teams: 49ers, Giants & the Colts (of the AAFC) 🏈He was part of the immortalized “Million Dollar Backfield” in San Francisco with “The King” Hugh McElhenny, Joe “The Jet” Perry, & John Henry Johnson 🏈In ‘63, the year he won the award, he was with the Giants, compiling an incredible statline: ➡️1st in Cmp% (60.2%) ➡️1st in Passing TDs (36) ➡️1st in Passer Rating (104.8) ➡️1st in Yds/Att (8.6) ➡️2nd in Yds/Gm (241.9) ➡️3rd in Passing Yds (3,145) Taking his team to their 3rd consecutive NFL Championship game Tittles’ 1963 volume & efficiency helped drive the development of the passing game, paving the way for the greats we see today… says me😉
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Thats very cool. I love basic total statistics. Now what about MVPs, stat titles, all-defensive teams, DPOYs, you know.. awards that the best players in the league earn? I didnt even mention rings or FMVPs yet..
Every all-time great has some sort of unreal statistic about them that they can leverage against the other greats. They all have amazing STATS from MJ to Dr. J to even Carmelo Anthony. Looking purely at stats, players at these all-time levels can all look great.
So what differenciates these greats? Awards. Who won the most? What did they win? How many times did they win it? Etc. Put Bron next to MJ and the greatest is not LeBron unless you purely care about total statistics and longevity which is valid, but then that would make for an interesting all-time greats list if thats how you rank players.
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@Mj_TheNorthGawd I’ll have to take a look back it. If it didn’t stand it out to me, I imagine it wasn’t as strong of push or he wasn’t do it as often.
Harden push started with his step back but it became a push for any shot to clear space for both him and the league. Like these examples
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@SportsStatsFan Iverson was super quick but when you look at his snatch backs he did push off there was just an array of ways he could score so the frequency wasn’t harden levels but his snatch backs had that. Did film study on it for my own game that’s how I know
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This is stupid and just shows you how some people shouldn’t talk basketball. I’m not saying Kobe is a better basketball player than LeBron because basketball is more than one on one but Kobes strength was his one on one game and LeBrons weakness (relative to top scorers of all time) was his one on one game.
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Marcellus Wiley says he’s picking LeBron James to beat Kobe Bryant in a pickup game . He says bron is 6’8 while Kobe is 6’6 it’s too much of a size and strength difference
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Really? I know some did it on occasion lighter push but I don’t recall Iverson. I was so angry at him for how much he was allowed to carry so maybe I didn’t pay attention to his pushing
Harden made it a regular part of his game AND set the stage for everyone to start copying. In 2021 IIRC, the nba put out a video and highlighted this type of push off as something refs were to clamp down on. Lasted for a month or two and then they stopped enforcing it. Over next few years that push off got harder and harder in force
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