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@Greg__Snow @MCCCANM Fair to assume they were close to or past V1 when the engine departed the wing, so it probably bounced all over the place when it hit the ground causing a lot more damage.
Horrific all the way around. :(
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You are going to start seeing comparisons to American flight 191. It was a DC-10 that crashed in 1979. The left engine detached from the wing on takeoff, resulting in a crash that remains the deadliest to have occurred in the United States.
The MD-11 *is* a derivative of the DC-10, but w/ many changes. It is *not* the same aircraft.
As I said earlier, I’m not going to speculate on this crash, but you are going to see speculation anyway. So let’s briefly talk about the DC-10 crash in the hopes of at least preparing you for the speculation.
In the 1979 Chicago crash, the engine separated, going up & over the left wing. This damaged the hydraulic lines (but *not* all of them & the systems back each other up), which then caused the “slats” or “leading edge flaps” to retract. This, in turn, raised the stall speed of the left wing & resulted in a loss of control.
The retraction of the slats is an issue that the FAA ordered fixed. They now physically lock out instead of relying on hydraulic pressure.
Another factor was that the pilots slowed down to the speed they are supposed to fly as they takeoff, known as V2. Had they maintained excess speed, they may have controlled the jet. The practice was changed to fly at a speed of “V2 + 10 knots” in the event of an engine failure for the DC-10.
Ultimately, the cause of the engine separation was ruled to be improper maintenance procedures; they had been using forklifts to attach & detach the engine for maintenance, which was not an approved method. Over time, this resulted in damage to the engine pylon & it ultimately failed.
How much of this was carried over to the MD-11, I don’t know. I didn’t fly the MD-11, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t incorporate these lessons…and the lessons of other DC-10 crashes. Even the Air Force modified the KC-10 based on them.
Again, speculation is not going to help, but this is the internet & you are going to see it anyway. You should not take this post as a suggestion that this is what happened…rather, I want to point out that there are very important differences here. The MD-11 is *not* the DC-10.
Let me say it clearly: I don’t know what happened. Neither do the people who are suggesting they do. The purpose of this post is just to give you clear information when you start to see speculation.
Hope that helps.

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@BitchelMitchel @BEASTfromEAST73 The engine pods are pretty close to the fuselage on the MD11s. Left engine is definitely either missing or on fire.
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@BEASTfromEAST73 Looks like a raging fire in the mid-section. Can someone confirm? Doesn’t look like the engine. Perspective is a little skew but seems like the belly is blazing and it’s being fueled.
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@FinalTelegraph @krassenstein 280,000 pounds, not gallons.
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280,000 gallons of jet fuel exploding. This is the reality of the regime's America. They are obsessed with green energy fantasies while our actual energy infrastructure literally falls from the sky and explodes. They can't keep planes flying. They can't keep trains on tracks. Total, catastrophic incompetence.
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@ArcInfinty @TheNewsBadger @nicksortor Pounds, not gallons. A trip to HNL would certainly clock in around 250-280,000 pounds of fuel.
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@TheNewsBadger @nicksortor Maybe 280000 liters lmao. Someone probably just doesn't know what they are saying. Probably 28k gallons
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@TheNewsBadger @nicksortor Should be 280,000 pounds, which is how fuel capacity and use is measured on transport category aircraft.
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@nicksortor 280,000...? I don't think that's right. Common sense says that number is WAY too high.
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@LarryBoorstein @atrupar Oh good lord just STFU. If Trump showed he could walk on water tomorrow u ppl would say it’s because he can’t swim🙄
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@99_the_comments @DaleStarkA10 The gear handle and flaps control aren't close to each other, feel completely different, and operate differently. There's almost no chance that the FO operated the wrong control. The RAT was deployed, so at the moment seems like a systems failure.
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@Dreamweasel @Strandjunker I'm not divided.
Fuck 'em both. They deserve each other.
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@PreetBharara These two idiots are going to destroy one another.
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@realspitfire @elonmusk LOL. No fucking chance. Both of them can roast in hell.
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@realDonaldTrump LOL... this aged like expired milk in the trunk of a 1978 Pontiac Sunbird in a Phoenix, Arizona junkyard.
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