Steve Syme

@RussNRoses @Smultronnos @darwintojesus 1. I'm not arguing it didn't happen. I'm saying that passage doesn't look like prophecy. 2. Isaiah 41:8 identifies a servant as Israel, and it seems like it could be the same servant. 3. But nothing in the context indicates it's a prophecy.

That is utter garbage debating... 1. We know less than 1%” Then that argument cuts both way.s ... you can’t claim it did happen either. You’re appealing to unknowns to dismiss a specific pattern. That’s not evidence. In fact - it would falsify any form of historical evidence for any thing that ever existed... 2. “It’s Israel” Isaiah usually calls Israel explicitly “Israel” or “servant.” Here the servant is innocent, suffers for others, and dies..that doesn’t fit Israel as a nation in any clean, literal sense.. 3. “We use verb tense” Hebrew prophecy doesn’t work like modern grammar. Future events are often written as if already happening (prophetic perfect). So tense alone doesn’t settle it..context does. All context as we previously pointed out on all side... Got any more nonsense?

We know exactly who wrote it

@RussNRoses @Smultronnos @darwintojesus 1. We know less than 1% of all events that happened in that time. 2. Many people think it's a metaphorical description of Israel. 3. No, we don't use observations of present reality to determine of a statement refers to the future. We use verb tense.

1.“How do you know it didn’t exist in Isaiah’s time?” Because there’s no recorded figure in that period matching that full pattern,public rejection, unjust suffering, execution with criminals, and burial with the rich. If it already happened, Isaiah would be describing a known case...not presenting it as something unfolding. 2. “How do you know it’s literal?” You don’t need every detail to be literal. The point is: even if it’s partly symbolic, it still describes a specific type of event, not generic suffering. But also - such statements are not meant to be symbolic - as there's nothing it would attach to... 3. “Why would it mean the future?” Because it’s not describing Isaiah’s present reality. When a text outlines a scenario that doesn’t match its current context, the natural reading is that it’s either future or anticipated...not random abstraction. Pretty easy.

@RussNRoses @Smultronnos @darwintojesus 1. How do you know it didn't exist in Isaiah's time? 2. How do you know it's meant to be literal? 3. Why would XYZ not happening in a particular time mean it's about the future? That's how language normally works.

Sure, people suffer for others, but Isaiah 53 isn’t talking about ordinary suffering... it’s an exact, detailed scenario: silent before accusers, pierced, mocked, dies with the wicked, buried with the rich. That combination didn’t exist in Isaiah’s time, so it’s not just “general human suffering”...it’s a prediction of a very specific future event.

@RussNRoses @Smultronnos @darwintojesus People suffer and die for others in every age of history including Isaiah's. And even if the author discussed a thing that didn't happen in his own time, that doesn't mean it's about the future.

Saying Isaiah isn’t prophecy because it doesn’t spell out a future date misses how prophecy works. Prophetic books often use future-tense, poetic language to describe events that haven’t happened yet. Take Isaiah 53: it describes a suffering figure who is rejected, wounded, and dies for others. That didn’t match anything in Isaiah’s own time... so the text is clearly pointing to a future event. It’s not like he’s writing history; he’s describing something ahead of his era. It's written timely verified & describes what happens with Jesus and verified in terms impossible of being changed after...

@MMAVillain @atKensai @darwintojesus Because it's only definitely lying if they're claiming the authority for themselves. If they're claiming authority for some texts they found, they might attribute the authorship to so and so because they really think he wrote it.

Why are you qualifying it? Did I say for themselves? You literally have to add to what I said in order to make your rebuttal even begin to make sense, except I explicitly clarified it MYSELF. All you’re doing is attacking a strawman. The point is about the attribution itself, not whether or not it was the author, and not when. Deal with the argument.

@vadabac340 @DeeWaynee94 It's no secret that guys don't want to cut off part of their dick.

@SteveSyme1 @DeeWaynee94 At least that's one good thing that Paul came up with. The knew the Greeks and Romans were never going to buy such a barbaric ritual.

“We know exactly who wrote it” is what people say when tradition matters more to them than evidence. The gospels don’t identify their authors in the text, and the mainstream scholarly view is that they were originally anonymous, with the names attached later. That isn’t “liberal scholars” being edgy. It’s just what the evidence looks like.

@vadabac340 @DeeWaynee94 Paul said you don't need to be circumcised which helped separate it from Judaism, but movement clearly predated him.

@DeeWaynee94 We know who invented Christianity. Paul made it up, telling you God's thoughts and motivations. And he never met Jesus except as a hallucination on the road to Damascus.

@OptimalCynic @TheJayUNF @DeeWaynee94 He's right though. The gnostic gospels were definitely written later. And unlike the biblical gospels, they do claim to be written by important people.

@TheJayUNF @DeeWaynee94 It's hilarious how ignorant Christians are about theit own holy book

@OptimalCynic @TheJayUNF @DeeWaynee94 Canonicity and authorship are different issues. It's like I'm trying to figure out who wrote the novel "Spock's World" and you're responding with, "Many people don't think the novels are canon. Some say only live-action counts." Like, I know, but I'm talking about who wrote it.

@TheJayUNF @DeeWaynee94 There wasn't even unanimous agreement on which gospels were part of the bible for centuries

@TheJayUNF @DeeWaynee94 This unanimous agreement was a century later, and it could be based on something real passed down orally. It's just hard for us to sort it all out this far removed.

@DeeWaynee94 The authors of the Gospels were known to the early church. There was basically unanimous agreement on who wrote them. If people were just attaching names to Biblical books, why did they not do it with He Rees. The authorship of that book is still debated today.

@brianhuggard @haplar @DeeWaynee94 If there name's on the book cover, then the author is identified.

@haplar @DeeWaynee94 Yes, I know. I picked an extremely well-known author to illustrate my point. With a more obscure author there might not be anything more a few hundred years from now than a name on a book cover.

@DeeWaynee94 I suppose the same could be said in the future of all of Stephen King’s novels. “The author isn’t identified in the texts, we have no idea who wrote them.”

@RussNRoses @Smultronnos @darwintojesus Many of these (e.g. Isaiah) aren't clearly prophesies. Where does the text say this will happen at some point in the future?

That's utter nonsense... Jesus existence alone is a fact who was prohecised: Prophecy: Book of Isaiah 53 Describes a figure who: is rejected suffers for others is silent before accusers dies with the wicked but is buried with the rich Fulfillment: Life and crucifixion of Jesus Christ Why it’s considered strong: Detailed parallels (trial silence, suffering, burial by a rich man) Text predates Jesus (Dead Sea Scrolls confirm Isaiah existed before him) 2. Micah 5:2 → Birthplace in Bethlehem Prophecy: Book of Micah 5:2 Predicts a ruler of Israel will come from Bethlehem. Fulfillment: Jesus Christ is described as being born in Bethlehem Very specific location (small, otherwise insignificant town) Not a vague symbolic statement 3. Zechariah 9:9 → Triumphal entry on a donkey Prophecy: Book of Zechariah 9:9 A king comes to Jerusalem: righteous and humble riding on a donkey Fulfillment: Jesus Christ enters Jerusalem on a donkey (Palm Sunday accounts in the Gospels) Its: Specific symbolic action Direct narrative match in multiple Gospel accounts You failed - athestardery at its finest

@MMAVillain @atKensai @darwintojesus Because you talked about using someone's name as an authority claim, and no one used someone's name as authority claim for themselves.

@SteveSyme1 @atKensai @darwintojesus Go back and read what I said again. This is about ANY claim of authorship whether it’s the autograph or later. How do you think what you just said responds to that? The question is about the motive itself not when it happened lmfao 😂

@MMAVillain @atKensai @darwintojesus The authors didn't use those names. The titles "according to so and so" came later.

@atKensai @darwintojesus Why use an unknown name as an authority claim?

@SamuelSage77 @Ayoelesho Perhaps the subjects want to influence coverage and perhaps the journalists want to get access. But I wouldn't discount the 99% probability that both parties like having sex.

@Ayoelesho It’s because she was a *journalist* 🤦‍♂️ can’t believe I ready your whole post only to get to that punchline. Powerful people “wooing” journalists is not done for romance it’s to influence coverage.

I've noticed a pattern of society shaming men for expressing their affection for adult women. If a male celebrity’s DMs leak and he is discovered to have messaged girls that he liked, he is shamed for it, and the situation is painted as if he has committed a crime. Even as an ordinary, non-celebrity male, whenever you have an issue with women, they release chats of you wooing them and try to shame you for doing exactly what a man should do. By not addressing this, we’re setting a dangerous precedent because men’s careers and reputations will soon begin to take a hit for wooing grown-up women, even though nature and society have placed the responsibility of wooing women in the hands of men.

@SkyDill_93 @pickyandthrivin @MsPrint_2 @Ayoelesho Low body count people don't realize how much some people don't remember who they've flirted with or dated and, in some cases, don't remember who they've had sex with.

@pickyandthrivin @MsPrint_2 @Ayoelesho This\nIs not an attack whatsoever So I apologize if it comes off as, but how do you forget who you dated? Are you a naturally forgetful person?Or have you dated that many people to wear it hard to keep track at this point?And I apologize , this is not an insult genuine curiosity

@MsPrint_2 @Ayoelesho Why wouldn't the court connection be in the headline?

@Ayoelesho Do any of you understand why these messages were released?? Obviously not! Ignoring the fact that most of you seem to have issues with women - this guy’s messages have been released because he denied knowing the woman IN A COURT OF LAW!! They prove he DID know her.

@IsabelAtai5899 @Ayoelesho Then I regret to inform you that most people don't care about this, so the men and women you wish to smear have no reason for shame.

@Ayoelesho A female artists would be shamed for promiscuity. Even more cruelly. I see no problem with shaming men for loose behavior.

@Kirbyhome @fandompulse Pretending they said something completely different from what they actually said was very common in social media arguments back in the 2010s. I haven't seen an example so brazen in a while. Thanks for the throwback.

Deep down, J.K. Rowling harbors an irrepressible arrogance: the belief that transgender people would starve to death without the jobs she so graciously bestows upon them. Yet, she is oblivious to this; she lives within her own delusion of being exceptionally tolerant, egalitarian, and liberal.

J.K. Rowling on why she would not fire a Harry Potter actor for pushing transgender ideology: "I don’t have the power to sack an actor from the series and I wouldn’t exercise it if I did. I don’t believe in taking away people’s jobs or livelihoods because they hold legally protected beliefs that differ from mine.” Is this the wrong approach?

@Haru177_10 @A_M_R_M1 I can make it make sense. Unlike Israel, the Nazis were trying to wipe out an ethnic group.

@A_M_R_M1 Like how tf Israel kill count haven’t reach higher considering that they commit genocide against Palestinians for 80 years? And we’re supposed to believe Nazi killed 6M in 4 years? Make it make sense

“A video TREND in the United States by famous American content creator Myron Gaines: An Israeli girle asks him: Do you believe the Holocaust happened? Myron: Do you believe there is a genocide in Gaza? Israeli woman: There is no evidence of that. Myron responds: Well then—how do you expect the world to believe in the Holocaust, in which 6 million Jews were killed, even though it happened in a time without advanced recording and documentation technologies, while today you deny what is happening in Gaza, despite the world seeing it live, with sound and images?”