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@MrMemeTism @Landeur I completely disagree with the idea of trying to be fiscally responsible about deportations. We get a chance to save our civilisation and now we are going to worry about fiscal responsibility? Achieving homogeneity would be worth getting in 100 trillion debt over.

@Supsillius @Landeur agreed, but we don't need to waste money on the detention centres until we can see how many 'voluntarily' leave due to withholding of funds. I am not convinced we will even need them and i definitely don't want to be funding political donors rinsing the taxpayers AGAIN

If they're actually going to be DETAINED then why does it matter where they are? If anything, you're just making life harder for yourself by putting them in areas where protests will be bigger and councils will interfere. There are good arguments against it.

@MrMemeTism @Landeur Absolutely, I'm in full support of that idea, that's necessary. You stop giving them benefits and say 5 million leave. Fantastic. Now, the detention centres are for the other 5 million who don't leave. I don't understand why you'd want to do a half-job.

@Supsillius @Landeur You don't need to, you just stop giving them benefits and they will leave, it's only the free money keeping them here, they'll go to another EU country the second we stop paying them

@MrMemeTism @Landeur You can't arrest them and take them to the airport, retard, you have to hold them temporarily somewhere for processing and waiting for a plane to their destination.

@Landeur I thought Reform were deporting, not detaining. Seems they just can't stop lying about their policies

@cfdownes_ Advice: Consider finalising a plan about an off-shore option or mention that the military will be heavily involved. Invoke the mental image of an armed soldier guarding the walls.

Utterly pointless stupid policy. Why is having an illegal migrant deportation facility in one’s area a bad thing? Is Reform Yookay implying that the illegals will be free to roam around and put locals in danger? Why intentionally place them in areas where protests and roadblocks at both the street and parliamentary level are more likely? Is owning the libs really a priority right now? If anything, it makes more sense to place them in the most patriotic areas of the country. Create jobs, give local people the opportunity to play a part in cleaning up their town and restoring order and safety in Britain, and ensure that any attempts at sabotage are swiftly and forcefully shut down. Pure slop.

@cfdownes_ Charlie you need to keep in mind you are talking to average people now, that bit about putting the centers in patriotic areas will alarm some . The line of Rupert "wherever is most efficient and safe" is the right one.

@AlfredTheMid @Landeur What we are learning about the Restore influencers as things settle down: Landeur has low IQ, Wolf is autistic and Basil is a zio shill. We are so cooked friends.

@Landeur The policy of punishing constituencies when it’s likely only a narrow majority voted Green is retarded

I do not trust Reform to enact any of the policies they propose anyway, yet I do trust Restore to do what they say. However, if you oppose absolutely everything Reform say just because they said it, you're giving them a very easy weapon with which to make you look ridiculous.

@Landeur We are not opposing that policy reflexively, Reform has some good policies. That policy happens to be retarded. You need to project a positive inspiring message, collective punishment tactics alienate voters. If you don't see how that policy is retarded you need to get smarter.

@DevonBatHunter @WorldByWolf @cfdownes_ He's going to get massacred on the debates when he starts sounding like Thatcher and talking about gutting the NHS, mark my words. The talking point should be how amazing the NHS is going to be after 5 million people are deported. Talking about gutting services is stupid.

@Supsillius @WorldByWolf @cfdownes_ And so what if he’s a Thatcherite? All he needs to do is cut all the leftist quangos that steal our money and use it to fund their multicultural project, and then the stage is set for a real RW coup to take over in the future. You’ve got to think about these things long term.

The first pre-requisite for an anti-establishment leader is that they viscerally hate the incumbent elites. I don’t get that sense from Rupert. I think Rupert wishes the elites had done better than they have but I don’t get the sense he wants a total takeover of the power structures. When I hear @cfdownes_ speak I get the sense he loathes those who currently sit in Whitehall, the City of London, and all the other corrupt elites. Which is why Downes should be made Deputy Leader as a sign that nationalists are going to have permanent representation in Restore and don’t have to beg for scraps from Rupert and his office.

@DevonBatHunter @WorldByWolf @cfdownes_ The problem is obviously that he may lose over being a Thatcherite and then he gets to do none of that. I'm not scared of libertarian rule, it's just very unpopular, and frankly incredibly retarded given the political moment.

@JackHadders If they are not a risk, then why is their presence being used as a threat by Reform?

The leadership of Restore Britain is either full of total morons, or liars. Detention centres and prisons with secure containment are NOT equivalent to asylum hotels/HMOs where migrants roam the streets free. Are they too stupid to lead, or are they leading you astray?

@WorldByWolf Drop the libertarianism and embrace welfare, but for ethnic Brits only. It's the winning formula, people just want somebody to go there.

The gap between the Tories/Reform and Restore is currently too small to make Restore interesting enough for voters to abandon the old order in big enough numbers. Voters aren’t going to turn their backs on the party polling 25% for the party polling 4% unless the offering is substantially different and worth taking a punt on. You aren’t going to win by applying median voter theorem onto a politically inelastic population model. You are going to win by carving out 30-35% of the vote and shifting people towards nationalism. We should be targeting exclusively white voters in specific areas of the country in a process that may take some time. As things stand Restore look like a tough on immigration Thatcherite party because Restore at present is a one man band that doesn’t even have a Chairman or a Deputy Leader. At the moment Restore is Rupert and Rupert just sounds like a Tory. It doesn’t help that he outright says “I’m a true Tory” in his interviews and takes time to praise Badenoch and the 2024 Tory intake. He’s not even as tough on immigration as Powell was. His deportation plan though tougher than other parties won’t even get us back to pre-Boriswave demographics. For Restore to attract interest and be genuinely something new and different to the old order it has to abandon Thatcherism, embrace ethnonationalism/demographic security, address the Israel/foreign lobby question, stop gatekeeping nationalists, start using terms like “ethnic cleansing” about what has been done to us, and promise prosecutions against the current establishment. Not everyone will necessarily see the gatekeeping that’s going on but I know for a fact certain people and groups are being kept away from the party because they’re “too extreme” and I’m not even talking about the more “controversial” figures on our side. At the moment without a substantial shift in ideology it’s not a sufficiently compelling project in the long term. How would I fix it? Move over or fire the gatekeepers and the civnat Zionist spokespeople, appoint Downes as Deputy Leader with his own team and policy brief, embrace nationalists and their groups in public, have Rupert give a speech outlining why Restore is different to the Tories and Reform i.e. a clean break, flood the zone media strategy, make your first 3-4 shadow cabinet spokespeople unimpeachably nationalist, focus much more on policy output, hire a head of comms, back an inquiry into foreign lobby influence, and start educating the public on why nationalism is the way forward via a full blown guerrilla propaganda campaign. People, policy, propaganda.

@Landeur Respectfully disagree Landeur. This is punishing the people in those constituencies who don't have the means to move out who didn't vote green. Terrible idea. Restore should repost this and say "Restore will just deport them instead".

I swear I said to do this a year ago. It's an extremely obvious political move to weaken support for the Green Party. If you vote Green, and they win in your constituency, you'll probably get 400 new neighbours from Syria or Sudan. I would extend it to Lab / Lib Dem.

@DevonBatHunter @WorldByWolf And can we really achieve anything by having a fucking civnat Thatcherist as the only figurehead of the party? Do you understand how poorly those debates are going to go? @cfdownes_ position is way closer to the position of the majority of Brits.

@WorldByWolf I have tremendous respect for Charlie, he is a highly effective campaigner and very articulate. But he is still only a kid. Can we really entrust the future of the right-wing revolution to someone this young?

@WorldByWolf Or make @cfdownes_ the chairman in the same way as David Bull is the chairman of Reform UK (position previously occupied by Zia) but Farage is the political leader. They need to get serious about taking the green vote and a Thatcherist alone at the front just won't do.

@DarkReactions99 @WorldByWolf No, Wolf's right here. This is looking a lot like the MAGA movement where a lot of people assumed they were going to be in positions of power, then it turns out that the entire group of people around Trump are zionists and those people from the base have no say whatsoever.

@WorldByWolf This is why arent pushing the panic button or sperging out. We see the future. you, however.....

@WorldByWolf Correct. Defund the BBC is the worst policy of Restore, by far. Conquer it. Fire every executive, writer and producer. Use it to promote real art.

If nationalists had more foresight we wouldn’t defund or abolish the BBC. We would take it over and have a national broadcaster in our image. If the national broadcaster goes what fills the void? Private operators owned by foreign billionaires? Sky, ITV, Channel 4? Does that sound better to you? Or does a national broadcaster made in our image sound better to you? Think ahead gentlemen. Don’t do the short term gratifying things (I’ve fallen into this trap many times), do the things that will make our politics the consensus for centuries.

@TotalExtinction @WorldByWolf Also rightoids need to start understanding the importance of art and culture. The BBC is an important cultural institution. You want creatives on your side. We actually need big cultural state budgets where we promote real art.

@Supsillius @WorldByWolf I know what your saying, but isn't everyone, normies included, sick to death of the BBC. Would it not be better to replace it with new & improved means of state propaganda?

This once again illustrates the problem of having no controls in place over what gets posted by Restore HQ. Yes the BBC is beyond reform and needs to be completely reimagined. But restoring Britain actually means restoring Britain, it doesn’t mean destroying vital institutions.

@TotalExtinction @WorldByWolf No, that doesn't make any sense. Again this is why the left wins. The BBC is a massive brand, it also has international projection. It would take decades to build another brand. It's also important to explicitly conquest their institutions to send a message.

@8ot_8ot @WorldByWolf Only executives, writers, producers and presenters. Most of the staff has nothing to do with the decision making. People here don't understand how many people are involved in TV who have nothing to do with the content.

@Supsillius @WorldByWolf You'd need to sack the entire BBC workforce first.

@LatorTom3925 @NickJFuentes @Nalin_Haley obvious psyop

Nikki Haley’s son, Nalin Haley, seen wearing Nick Fuentes (Jeffery Epstein) quarter zip. @NickJFuentes @Nalin_Haley Tucker Carlson in attendance as well