@Gacha_Zone no but seriously they needa update the other compasses to do the same thing as nod krai compass
and no i do not want to use the interactive map to explore the other areas
@Drapy_Art@toybabez Again if people try force the use of bodies then yes its deplorable. But if the persons a willing consenting person then it is their business
@Drapy_Art@toybabez Yes there is a choice. People do not have to do it simply for money as there are other ways of making money. If you disagree with surrogacy are you going to say the same for women that sell their eggs? Men that sell their sperm?
@Drapy_Art@toybabez If they are exploiting a person via surrogacy then absolutely it's deplorable actions. However if the person is a willing participant , it is their body their choice if they want to be a surrogate ofcourse if any complications arise they should always prioritise themselves
@SuzuNerd@toybabez Well, I think we should judge the people who chose to buy those services. Because again, the vast majority of them are rich people that think they can use women as their persona breeding tools. Nothing excuses risking the life of another person for 9 months.
@Drapy_Art@toybabez 1. Different countries different rules on surrogacy. If a woman willingly consents to being a surrogate that is their body their choice to do so. If the parents are in a safe, loving home, caring for the child. the way they have had the child does not make them a bad parent.
@SuzuNerd@toybabez Most of them are done through agencies that exploit women. Also, being a parent is not a necessity nor a right. And if to fulfill that “wish” you need to buy another’s human’s being as an incubator maybe you do not deserve to be a parent to begin with.
@toybabez@Drapy_Art Wheres the expense of someone else? If someone voluntarily consents to being a surrogate they have their own reasons for being a surrogate. Their body their choice
as for payments via money coersion is definitely not right. I know how they are paid vary different countries.
@SuzuNerd@Drapy_Art Getting a child is not a right, no one has a “right” to reproduce at the expense of someone else. Surrogacy is inherently exploitative and morally iffy. Surrogate mothers go through a lot of struggles that don’t get talked about because “she agreed to it”
@Drapy_Art@toybabez Ofcourse using money as a means to get someone to be a surrogate is not right at all. However there are people that choose to be surrogates not for money purposes but to help couples that struggle with fertility.
Also in my country there are rules on payments for surrogates
@SuzuNerd@toybabez Because is still rich people taking advantage of a woman of lower class’s monetary necessities. In my country it is illegal for that same reason. Women’s bodies are not something that should be traded. We are not a product.
@toybabez@Drapy_Art If someone was trying to force a person to become a surrogate by any means that is wrong and ofcourse not entitled to that. However if the person is a willing consenting adult there is no issue at all.
@SuzuNerd@Drapy_Art I don’t know that’s the reason for sure, but lots of celebrities have stated pressure to stay thin factored in their reason to hire a surrogate. Personally, I don’t care what someone’s reason is. They’re not entitled to a biological child or someone else’s womb
@toybabez@Drapy_Art How do you know its to stay thin? People use surrogates for fertility issues reasoning and if the women consent to being a surrogate ? Yes there are other ways of having children but how they choose to start a family or have children at all as long as they are loved, taken
Parcel has arrived. However no one knocked on the door. I kept an eye on tracking. Open the door, the tiktok bag was ripped open, the box my item was in was opened. Luckily the item I ordered was fine but thanks @InPostUK Yodel please tell me where I can make a complaint
Guess what told again to wait until 9pm. Was given the slot 17:40 to 19:40 and that it would be delievered today. Guess what was not delivered today @InPostUK Yodel. Assuming I will be told the exact same tomorrow