Nick S.

@PaulNedelisky @james_d_baird Ah, the last vestige of a man with no argument. Mockery.

@TexasKnox75 @james_d_baird You should check out these kindred spirits: sca.org/about/

Weak analogy--even for a conservative Christian audience--since one can form one's children to be virtuous and hence have no need of condoms, but we have no means of forming the populace to prefer true religion. Meanwhile there is great benefit in freedom to pursue true religion regardless of whether the populace does.

@PaulNedelisky @james_d_baird Thankfully, "all politics is local" means we could see it start with counties and eventually change the whole country. Ultimately, with all the institutions captured by liberalism, we have a long game to play with elite formation and gaining those institutions back.

@TexasKnox75 @james_d_baird These aren't binaries my man. Governments can be more or less neutral. You're saying we should toss our relatively neutral order for a nakedly sectarian one. You imagine that it will be your sect. Why would this be plausible? Is your sect the majority position in the US?

@MedievalScholar John Wycliffe

Without googling, name a hero of the Middle Ages.

@PaulNedelisky @james_d_baird Are you suggesting that our government is neutral or that any "non-sectarian" government is neutral? There is no neutrality. The U.S. is currently under control of the post-war consensus sect & that is a broadly egalitarian liberal regime that is most certainly not neutral.

@TexasKnox75 @james_d_baird If you change the political order to permit sectarian government, you should be justifiably confident that it will be your sect and not another that is imposed.

@PaulNedelisky @james_d_baird You lost me there. What does righteousness in national action - of the same kind praised by God in scripture when godly kings reformed the nation by destroying the groves of idols - have to do with sportsball analogies?

@TexasKnox75 @james_d_baird If you lower the height of the basketball goal to make it easier for you to score, you have to know you won't benefit others taller than you more than you benefit yourself.

@NowTheEndBegins Drat. Should say Matthew 28:18. Typing too fast.

@NowTheEndBegins Is Matthew 18:28 and following not in your Bible? What did the Lord mean when He spoke as the victorious Mediator, "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."?

This whole "Christ Is King!" movement is not biblical, and in fact, is quite Roman Catholic. Jesus Christ is NOT the "King of Christians". He is our Saviour, our Advocate, our Rest, our Life, the Friend that sticks closer than a brother. We have been saved and placed in His Body. Jesus becomes a King at the Second Advent when we return with Him. Stay away from "Christ Is King" cultists.

Interesting choice of examples, but the kind of illiberal policies I suspect most of us are after are not communist, but would have a Christian political, ethical, and economic moral basis. Natural law and theology as the principia of Protestant Christian political thought, not Marx. That means looking back to Junius, Althusius, Hale, Alsted, Rutherford, et al.

@TexasKnox75 @james_d_baird Suppose for argument's sake you're right about these conditions. It's still paradise compared to the horrors the modern world has seen due to state religion and illiberal polities like the USSR and PRC. You have to have a sense of the disvalue of the alternatives.

@AmericanPresby And asking our rulers to to fulfill their attendant duties in light of that fact, lest they continue bringing judgment on the people. Psalm 2:10-12.

We don’t claim a city, county, state, or nation for Christ. He already rules it. We must simply acknowledge that fact.

Disagree with your assessment. The reason we have so much conflict brewing in our communities now is precisely due to the destruction of the social cohesion brought by Christian values as operating assumptions at the founding. Now that we are flooded with immigrants with contrary values, we are facing great unrest & that will increase until social cohesion is restored. The progressive policy, the liberal practice of replacement of the center with the (global) fringes, forever - that is what is driving the nation to reactionary response.

Unclear that they would be dismayed at our political situation. They sought to avoid the European wars of religion which were due to "state" endorsement of sectarian religion, and in this they have succeeded. A quarter of the German populace died in these wars. We still have it good.

"This reviewer is in full agreement with his three points of application, especially the second one.  Our seminary model was built on the assumption that undergraduate programs would furnish a classical liberal education.  This is no longer the case as most undergrad programs are captured by post-modern cultural Marxism. Thus, most seminary students lack the foundational education in the Western tradition to intelligently debate these questions. The Reformation was both an ecclesiastical and an educational recovery. As McGowan applies Reformed Christian Politics he shows us that we need to be reeducated in addition to being reformed."

Excellent assessment with fair critiques. One takeaway: We need our ministers, generally speaking, to have better grounding in philosophy that they might interact better with historic Reformed thought. The precision of language of the scholastics has real value, especially today. americanreformer.org/2026/05/review…

The earthly and heavenly good of a people is the natural law object of the magistrate's ordering of a society. Because only Christianity is true, ordering society to their highest good is to promote the true religion. We can of course enjoy toleration between orthodox Christian groups. But the founders never imagined the mess we are in today due to liberal policies. Total breakdown of the societal cohesion thanks to liberal proposition nationhood. Its not the same country I was born into 51 years ago.

@TexasKnox75 @james_d_baird You're assuming that the common good requires Christianity, but of course this is false. People of many faiths recognize the good of peace and order, natl. defense, inclusive labor market, etc.

@MitchellSheten1 @ReallyOldLife By God's commands and with his approval, yes.

@TexasKnox75 @ReallyOldLife You know this has been already done before with OT Israel?

church ministers gospel state ministers justice Christian Nationalism is the third way - the state ministers gospel

@james_d_baird Masterful.

if you promote something, it is beholden to you I am promoting Presbycast ∴ Presbycast is beholden to me —— with our combined media powers, we shall conquer America

Start by the magistrate removing public Gospel obstacles. To maintain cohesion, start with credal Christianity as the definition of protected public religious expression. Eliminate all public expression of the contrary. Enact Sabbath laws to ensure as many people as possible have the opportunity to worship the Lord on His day (works of mercy and necessity are allowed). Just these alone would help normalize participation in Gospel opportunities as the purpose of a full day in seven.

@TexasKnox75 @ReallyOldLife What's your idea of reordering?

@irishpresby Progressivism: replacing the center with the margins forever. Praying my brothers in the PCA will stand against this, and further see that the original meaning of WLC 156 is put into practice in her churches.

Re: the proposed Directory for Worship It may reasonably be inferred from the highlighted portion below that by referencing WLC 156 the new directory is clarifying the clause “all are not permitted to read the word publicly” by defining who may read. If that is the case, and if this is adopted, then it will constitutionalize a novel reading of WLC 156 and will supersede the divines own meaning enumerated in their own DPW.

@MitchellSheten1 @ReallyOldLife That would be a misframing. It is about ordering society to help its people to have ample opportunities for the Gospel to do what it is absolutely sufficient to do.

@TexasKnox75 @ReallyOldLife Not a fan of changing the society to help the Gospel imo. The Gospel is sufficient enough to change society by itself.

@MitchellSheten1 @ReallyOldLife Don't know. I'm a big KJV guy myself, but they're best appreciated in the context of Genesis-Revelation and not as standalones.

@TexasKnox75 @ReallyOldLife Did we read the same four Gospels?

@LordTemplar1 @ReallyOldLife That's a good clarifying point. I understood Dr. Hart to be claiming the magistrate is promoting true religion by somehow taking up propagating (usually by preaching) the Gospel. But that's not duty of the magistrate, its ordering the nation to Gospel opportunity in the church.

@TexasKnox75 @ReallyOldLife Dr. Hart is using "minister" here to mean non-preaching, non-administration of the sacraments. I am using the term in the same way to point out his hypocrisy, not because I think the term is helpful when applied in such a general sense.