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High-quality, well-researched data visualizations that raise the level of public discourse. Truth matters. Open to custom viz – DM me! 📊

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Ron Lynd
Ron Lynd@lynd_ron·
@RabbiPoupko Germany was at war. You are slaughtering innocent civilians with no capacity to fight back and claiming it is self defense. Another day of rabbi Poupko falsehoods.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
How have I gaslighted people? The chart the original poster presented stands on its own two feet. It correctly displays the hate crime RATE by religious group. If you don't understand what that means and how it is different from the absolute number of hate crimes I'm afraid it's your problem. I don't understand why it is my responsibility to provide the source of a chart someone I don't know posted on X. The chart mentions the source. You looked it up and found it. The graph is fine. Your ability to read it is lacking.
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ambient mike
ambient mike@ambientmike·
@TheDataDecoded @Tracking_Power Yeah but you didn't present any of these numbers. You just jumped on the original graph and gaslighted anyone who questioned it. You didn't even mention Table 2.2 until I mentioned it. What chance does a casual reader stand? A badly-sourced graph with a tricksy presentation
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David Miller
David Miller@Tracking_Power·
It is. But, obviously, as I am sure you know, this is data on ‘religious’ hate crime, not hate crime in general. When you look at that, the most likely victims, per head of population are… Drum roll 🥁… not Jews, but people of colour. Why would a Jewish supremacist like Nicole, lie? Answers on a postcard! Link to data in replies.
Nicole Lampert@nicolelampert

It’s stark when you see it like this, isn’t it?

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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
In an earlier chart (link in the comments) I showed Barnet has the highest Jewish share among London boroughs (20.1%). Zooming in at the Ward level, the concentration is even more striking: → Golders Green: 49.9% Jewish residents → Garden Suburb: 41.1% → Stamford Hill West: 40.0% These three wards have the highest Jewish population shares in the entire country. Data source: Census 2021 from the Office for National Statistics | Jewish residents as % of total population per ward Graphic: @TheDataDecoded
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
Yesterday's chart (link in the comments) showed the distribution of the Jewish population across England & Wales: over half (53.6%) live in London. Today's map shows the local concentration within London: • Barnet: 20.1% of all residents identify as Jewish (by far the highest) • Hackney: 6.4% • Every other borough: <4% Data source: Census 2021 from the Office for National Statistics | Jewish residents as % of total population per borough Graphic: @TheDataDecoded
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
@Jimmyjams197027 @wil_da_beast630 This is rate adjusted for population size. Since Christians are about 46% of the population (much higher than Muslims and Jews) the rate per 10,000 ends up being small.
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Jimmyjams
Jimmyjams@Jimmyjams197027·
@wil_da_beast630 Muslims haven't targeted a single Christian with a hate crime? Or is the statute written in such a way to exclude that?
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Mikosh
Mikosh@Mikosh7S·
@CreakingG @eurojewcong If you and like you ,could you’d commit another Holocaust today without a second thought - Oct 7 massacre and your reaction on it clearly showed that. You are nazis of today.
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European Jewish Congress
European Jewish Congress@eurojewcong·
We are appalled by the vandalism of the National War Memorial in Amsterdam. On the morning of the Netherlands’ National Remembrance Day, the monument on Dam Square, dedicated to victims of World War II, was defaced with red paint and the word “genocide,” just hours before official commemorations were due to take place. Defacing a site of remembrance on such a day is not protest. It is a direct attack on memory, dignity and the principles that these commemorations are meant to uphold. Those responsible must be identified and held accountable.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
@realjohnofgaunt @Agie2a I don't think you understand that these percentages are not comparable. One looks only at the DNA regions that differ among humans, the other looks at the entire genome. The difference in the length of DNA we are talking about is the multiple orders of magnitude
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Don Rumata
Don Rumata@realjohnofgaunt·
@Agie2a 70-90% is nothing we share 90% of our dna with a slug
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Raven__ous
Raven__ous@Agie2a·
3,000+ Years of Continuity: The genetic structure of Greek populations has remained surprisingly intact since the time of the Mycenaeans. Scientific studies, including a major 2017 study published in Nature, indicate that modern Greeks are genetically descendants of ancient populations, specifically the Mycenaeans and Minoans. Findings reveal that modern Greeks share 70–90% of their DNA with these Bronze Age populations, showing remarkable genetic continuity over 3,000 years despite historical migrations nature.com/articles/s4155… science.org/content/articl…
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
@RealZoya1 @frad1957 Indeed. But I meant, Europeans didn't continue attacking each other or forming numerous terrorist groups and shooting missiles at each other AFTER the war.
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Zoya ★
Zoya ★@RealZoya1·
@TheDataDecoded @frad1957 Actually Germany lost 2 million people in the last 5 months of the war. Nazis don't know how to surrender.
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Zoya ★
Zoya ★@RealZoya1·
HISTORICAL FACT: You can never make the Arabs of Palestine happy.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
Agreed. You can present both absolute numbers and rates. This information is in table 2.2 of the report. I'm not saying you can't present the absolute numbers. I'm only saying that if you JUST present absolute numbers and you don't know that there are 14x more Muslims than Jews, you get the false impression that the magnitude of the problem is the same. It's not. Any given Jews is 9x more likely to experience a hate crime than a Muslim. This is why in studying crime we always use crime rates. For example, in the U.S. African Americans account for 50% of all homicide arrests. Does that mean this group is equally likely to be arrested for homicide as a White person? No. African Americans are only about 13-14% of the U.S. population. This discrepancy suggests there is a problem in the community. You wouldn't know that if you only looked at absolute numbers. Of course the main ethnic group commits more crimes in absolute terms if they are the majority.
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ambient mike
ambient mike@ambientmike·
@TheDataDecoded @Tracking_Power You could present both ways of calculating it alongside each other. I would respect that. But to say "you can't" present the total figures like you just said is dishonest and statistically manipulative.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
"Presenting it this way": but the numbers are correct and they are correctly described as hate crime rate per 10,000. This is notisleading in any way. This is what a crime rate is. And yes, the rate of anti-jewish hate crime is much higher than the rate of anti-muslim hate crime, even though in absolute terms there's more hate crimes against Muslims. This should not be confusing. One is an absolute number, the other is a rate. I don't know where this screenshot comes from, but it presents the data in table 2.2 correctly. Just because the original report didn't have a chart doesn't mean this chart is wrong.
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ambient mike
ambient mike@ambientmike·
@TheDataDecoded @Tracking_Power You ignored what I said. Presenting it this way makes it look like there is more antisemitism than islamophobia, whereas actually it's the other way round. Also, why is the graph presented with no source? GOV.UK didn't present these figures. It's derivative.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
@frad1957 @RealZoya1 If Europeans have followed that logic after WWII, the whole continent would be rubble by now. Peace is a choice. Impoverishing yourself by focusing all your energy on war and creating a culture of martyrdom unsurprisingly creates abject misery.
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farid nibhani
farid nibhani@frad1957·
@RealZoya1 This does not justify that. All occupations are illegal and refused. Resistance is legitimate.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
@LePropheteEli Sometimes, Muslims defending the worst aspects of their culture and why it's actually great feels like trying to tell Jamaicans they have a problem with gun violence and them telling you shooting people dead in Jamaica is illegal.
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Eli II 🏴‍☠️
Eli II 🏴‍☠️@LePropheteEli·
Sort moi un seul ouvrage de fiqh qui stipule que frapper sa femme est haram J’attend.
Morshu@Morshu560333

@LePropheteEli @Palmierent_ @NeverGoyAgain_ Et ça ne change rien au fait qu'en islam les violences conjugales sont interdites, que des institution islamiques sunnites comme Al-Azhar ou l'Académie internationale du fiqh islamique interdisent les violences conjugales et surtout qu'en islam gifler, battre ou maltraiter une...

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Uri Kurlianchik
Uri Kurlianchik@VerminusM·
Ethnostates for me but not for thee.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
But this is the precisely reason why rates are so important and you can't just use absolute numbers. Here's an example: imagine you are looking at stabbings by ethnicity in China. Every year you have 1,000 stabbings, 70% of which involve Han Chinese victims (1,284,500,000 people) and 10% involve Tibetan victims (7,060,000 people). In your view, that shows there is a problem with the Han Chinese being targeted. But that would actually be an incorrect conclusion. See calculations below: - 700 stabbings with Han victims - 100 stabbings with Tibetan victims - 91% of the population is Han Chinese (1,284,500,000 people) - 0.5% of the population is Tibetan (7,060,000) Put these all together: - Han Chinese: (700 / 1,284,500,000)*100,000 = 0.055 - Tibetans: (100 / 7,060,000)*100 = 1.42 Tibetan rate / Han Chinese rate = 26 Conclusion: Tibetans are 26 times more likely to be stabbed than Han Chinese. Despite the fact that there are 7 times more stabbings involving Han Chinese victims, the calculation shows there is a disproportionate problem facing Tibetans. [The stabbings numbers are fictional, but the population numbers are correct] The exact same case can be made for Muslims versus Jews. Muslims experience 1.56x more incidents in absolute terms, despite being more numerous than Jews by 14x. That's a huge difference. This is why rates are always used in this types of statistics. They are essential when the underlying population totals are very different. I hope this clarifies why 106 for Jews versus 12 for Muslims reveals the magnitude of the problem in the England/Wales.
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ambient mike
ambient mike@ambientmike·
@TheDataDecoded @Tracking_Power You're keeping it going then - the distortion it creates. To the uninitiated this looks like there is way more antisemitic crime than islamophobic crime. Yet in absolute terms it's the other way round. And you don't see a problem?
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
@ambientmike @Tracking_Power The exact rate for Jews is 105.89 per 10,000. In otger words, 1,0589% of 271,327 (population of Jews in 2021) is exactly 2,873 incidents, as stated in table 2.2, not tens of thousands of offenses.
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ambient mike
ambient mike@ambientmike·
@TheDataDecoded @Tracking_Power “106 per 10,000 population” would mean over 1% of the relevant population experienced a religious hate crime in a single year. Applied to the Jewish population in England and Wales (roughly 270,000–300,000), that would imply tens of thousands of offences.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
The reported rates are indeed tied to the corresponding populations of religious groups. Here's the calculation: - Jews: 2,873 incidents / 271,327 residents in 2021 = 105.9 -Muslims: 4,478 incidents / 3,868,133 residents in 2021 =11.6 The absolute numbers of incidents per religious group have been divided by the population totals of each group in 2021 and multiplied by 10,000. It all checks out. Where do you see a distortion?
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ambient mike
ambient mike@ambientmike·
@TheDataDecoded @Tracking_Power Even if you corrected the unit to “per 100,000”, a figure of 106 would still need careful interpretation: it would imply a very high rate and would need to be explicitly tied to the Jewish population as the denominator, not the general population. It's a distortion.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
You already shared the correct source earlier: gov.uk/government/sta… It doesn't make any difference if you use 100,000 as the denominator. Instead of 106 you'll get 10.6 and all other numbers will also be divided by accordingly. The numbers are clearly shown in table 2.2 at a per 10,000 rate. If you divided by 100,000 you will get 1.2 for Muslims, 0.5 for Sikhs, etc.
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ambient mike
ambient mike@ambientmike·
@TheDataDecoded @Tracking_Power Please specify the source dataset (Home Office annual hate crime release), clarify the denominator and use the correct rate unit (usually per 100,000). As written, the claim overstates the scale and is a misreporting of official statistics.
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The Data Decoded@TheDataDecoded·
@ambientmike @Tracking_Power Yes, many statistics use rates per 100,000 but it depends on the frequency of the event being measured. 10,000 is used for less frequent events to avoid getting numbers with decimals.
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ambient mike
ambient mike@ambientmike·
@TheDataDecoded @Tracking_Power What is likely going on is a denominator problem or a unit error. UK hate crime statistics are usually presented either as total counts (e.g. number of offences), or rates per 100,000 population, not per 10,000.
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