Tim Pieper

@DabsAndDPS I’d been exploded

@DabsAndDPS 💀

@DabsAndDPS I struggle to not wish to do some things over, but given I can’t, it’s just pain. I’d rather live and be me than dwell too much on a saddening wish.

If you’re someone who overthinks, you’ll struggle to go no contact & heal the most bc you don’t just remember, you relive & philosophise your pain. Grief for the emotionally intelligent is layered.

@DabsAndDPS That’s the scariest question!! WE NEED TO STOP THE FIRE WE DIDN’T IGNITE IT BUT WE TRY TO FIGHT IT

@TimPieper7 WHERE. IS. IT...? IT MUST BE STOPPED.

@ButtCheeksMoses @JustRickard @JacksonWheat1 Dude brought up kinds without even trying to define it, then said the fact that cats don’t give birth to dogs defies the core mechanism of evolution. I recommend listening to people who give factually correct information and explain themselves clearly: youtu.be/y5Ysl4UewMw?si…

It's almost cute seeing young Earth creationism again. It's a welcome change from dinosaur denialism, hurricane machines, and anti-vaxxers.

@TheOldFaith @DrScotMSullivan I agree that we should scrutinize our biases when we evaluate. It is wise to proportion our confidence to the evidence and doubt what lacks reasonable evidence. Sagan wrote what I find to be helpful & insightful ways to scrutinize our own truth seeking: youtu.be/yUgdrno-2xY?si…

@TimPieper7 @DrScotMSullivan 'and the gospels are based on human hearsay.' Well for obvious reasons this is where you and I part company. I commend not being credulous but, as Ricoeur wisely tells us, if we're going to adopt the hermeneutic of suspicion we should subject that hermeneutic to the same scrutiny

"Can we imagine-logically, I mean, not merely intuitively-that someone still in torment after a trillion ages, or then a trillion trillion, or then a trillion vigintillion, is in any meaningful sense the same agent who contracted some measurable quantity of personal guilt in that tiny, ever more vanishingly insubstantial gleam of an instant that constituted his or her terrestrial life? And can we do this even while realizing that, at that point, his or her sufferings have in a sense only just begun, and in fact will always have only just begun? What extraordinary violence we must do both to our reason and to our moral intelligence (not to mention simple good taste) to make this horrid notion seem palatable to ourselves, and all because we have somehow, foolishly, allowed ourselves to be convinced that this is what we must believe." -David Bentley Hart,

@TheOldFaith @DrScotMSullivan I commend truth seeking. Here’s my hang up; humans have a tendency to believe a lot of stuff for bad reasons, and the gospels are based on human hearsay. Even modern humans can believe easily fact checked falsehoods, and we know false religions are the rule, not the exception.

@TimPieper7 @DrScotMSullivan It's possible that, in good faith, and in good conscience you hold to the view that God isn't real. But it is incumbent upon us all to continue seeking the fulness of the truth. What I've said to you I'd temper with this, "to those whom much has been given, much will be asked."

@TheOldFaith @DrScotMSullivan Surely a god can see the difference between rejection and disbelief. Rejecting an offer implies the choice is made between accepting it and rejecting it. If I don’t have reason to think the offer or its consequences are real, how am I supposed to even consider accepting it?

@TimPieper7 @DrScotMSullivan "You seem to be proposing hell is filled with people that won’t accept an offer to get out of infinite torture." That's right. They'd rather be in Hell than be with God. You ARE rejecting the offer by denying its reality. So I'd entrust you to the loving intercession of Our Lady.

@AnalyticAnthony @InTheory14 @waldenpod @xxxxxxMUxxxxxx @JimmyAkin3000 @Trent_Horn @LarryChappGS22 @ErickYbarra3 @EOrthodoxy @JordanW41069857 @TylerDMcNabb @typaulmonroe @ThaddeusPapist @RobinParry @KhalilAndani @DrScotMSullivan @addisonhart @FrMatthewLC Most human emotions make zero sense in the context of omniscience, even wrath and offense. Regardless, the way you describe god makes him sound as fragile as a human infant. Infinite torture for offending him? Surely we can imagine a bigger god than that.

@AnalyticAnthony @InTheory14 @waldenpod @xxxxxxMUxxxxxx @JimmyAkin3000 @Trent_Horn @LarryChappGS22 @ErickYbarra3 @EOrthodoxy @JordanW41069857 @TylerDMcNabb @typaulmonroe @ThaddeusPapist @RobinParry @KhalilAndani @DrScotMSullivan @addisonhart @FrMatthewLC Don’t underthink it either. What’s the point of the wrath? To show he’s been offended? We teach toddlers to control their tantrums. We expect emotional maturity and control from adults. How much more maturity and control should we expect from an omniscient eternal father?

@TheOldFaith @DrScotMSullivan That’s one story to try to make sense of hell. You seem to be proposing hell is filled with people that won’t accept an offer to get out of infinite torture. What about people like me who aren’t rejecting the offer but simply don’t think the offer is real?

@DrScotMSullivan But it's not all that, is it. The damned soul fixed itself into enmity with God whereby it hates God in a negative feedback loop of hate - blaming Him for the state they are in. Thus, the only person who could have redeemed them is forever the motive of their rejection of Him.

@AnalyticAnthony @InTheory14 @waldenpod @xxxxxxMUxxxxxx @JimmyAkin3000 @Trent_Horn @LarryChappGS22 @ErickYbarra3 @EOrthodoxy @JordanW41069857 @TylerDMcNabb @typaulmonroe @ThaddeusPapist @RobinParry @KhalilAndani @DrScotMSullivan @addisonhart @FrMatthewLC Could the punishment for denting a car have more to do with reparations than with revenge? What reparations does an eternity of torture offer anyone?

@AnalyticAnthony @InTheory14 @waldenpod @xxxxxxMUxxxxxx @JimmyAkin3000 @Trent_Horn @LarryChappGS22 @ErickYbarra3 @EOrthodoxy @JordanW41069857 @TylerDMcNabb @typaulmonroe @ThaddeusPapist @RobinParry @KhalilAndani @DrScotMSullivan @addisonhart @FrMatthewLC Is it possible to dent god?

@Joeshread5631 @Canaansdad1987 You sound really mad about dying kids for someone upset that others are drawing attention to the leading causes of dead kids.

Then go walk around a cancer treatment center genius, and go look at those kids faces, all of them because the one I have to go to is packed, and tell me that amount of children are getting killed fuck you for using this type of shit for political reasons you don't know shit dude you can register these nuts you don't know a damn thing.

@thejerryproctor @paulogia0 Agreed. Just wanted to beat back any allegations that atheists are borrowing some philosophy or have no alternative sensible basis for values that are somehow inherent to Christianity. By your explanation, such values are just part of a process that goes far before Christianity.

Exactly what moral principle is an atheist allegedly borrowing from Christianity that doesn’t ultimately pre-date Judaism in the form of general empathy?

@dan_herbison @paulogia0 @noah_jo99 Didn’t mention standards, I’m correcting your claim that empathy doesn’t spread your genes. Empathy is demonstrably an amazing teamwork motivator for our species. Ape. Together. Strong. The net survival of the group is benefited from empathy. Fringe cases don’t change that.