Togez
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Today on stream I learned the basics to axiom and made some liminal space type things as a test.
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@inteledits @DumbasseryLol According to a screensharer who I was talking to, she lies about it. But even then the difference between her normal aim and her aim during the handcam is kinda crazy
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Top aimer and championship winner @Matty_OW could not replicate Marlow’s aim
“there is a definite physical limitation to being smooth that I am not actually seeing her struggle though. Like if you look at her fast movements and the landings, it just doesn’t look shaky at all”
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@SpxctraMC This sums her video up pretty well. She just played a lot worse with the handcam which looks really bad for her whether shes legit or not
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I do not personally have an opinion on whether Marlow cheats. That being said her handcam sucks, i have seen better bedwars handcams than whatever marlow did.
NICHE Luxilux👀@LuxiIux
im genuinely SO GLAD marlow posted this and the annoying misogynistic 13 year olds can finally shut up
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@lu_ubrious wouldnt matter with or without an axe it would still look the same
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Fair enough. In my opinion they will definitely change pvp for the worse because axes have a lower range so a spear vs spear fight would be incredibly defensive as it’s hard to shield disable. I’m curious to see how a fight would actually look like once people learn the weapon
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits i never said it didn't provide a notable advantage, in fact i explicitly said that if given the opportunity to nerf it they should, i just said that it wouldn't completely ruin pvp
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nahhhh cause if mojang sees this their fix is gonna be removing attribute swapping 😭
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apparently you can attribute swap to get 4.5 block reach now. Anyone who still plays smp kits is probably going to have to completely relearn melee 😭
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Yeah but my point is that you have to do a bunch of extra shit to even get close to the spear user 😭 Idk what your point is here because 4.5 block reach obviously provides big advantages whether it can shield disable or not
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits well i've listed a decent few ways to enter exchanges so pearls are only for when you can't enter in with shield or wind charges, and wind charging from 5 blocks to enter their range is more than doable
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits The reach for placing blocks is 4.5 btw. Using pearls to enter every exchange isn’t practical and wind charges are just gonna get u hit from 4 blocks away. I mean theres definitely ways to deal damage to someone using a spear but it won’t really be a close fight
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits if they're constantly holding S then they're constantly not doing damage which means they need to do predictions which leads to bait. and secondaries have less range than the spear meaning they'd have to close the distance (and again, pearls and wind charges)
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@finnchicke34824 @MegaEdeath @divydend @inteledits Attribute swapping takes the damage and durability of the first weapon and the attributes of the second weapon. Shield breaking and 4 block reach are both attributes so you have to choose between one or the other. Can’t get both
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@TogezW @MegaEdeath @divydend @inteledits does it not? thats interesting. Im curious to see how lunge works. Could be used to get into close range
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Yea except they hold s faster than that 😭 It’s just not practical to be holding ur shield up like that. Incredibly vulnerable to secondaries and momentum breaks. Also piercing crossbow might be a good combo with spear since it counters shield holding.
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits you can easily go 1.5 blocks whilst holding up your shield and then you're within 3 blocks which allows you to do whatever melee you want
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Just not practical at all, holding your shield already makes you vulnerable bc ur so slow
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Well yeah you could if you just held up shield long enough to get into range to start meleeing them, also there's pearls and wind charges to close the gap
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Any little factor would tip the scale but I think the spear will tip it by a lot. I feel like a ht4 would beat a lt3 with relative ease cuz like I said you can’t really even properly agro the spear user
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits but with equal skill players any little factor is gonna tip the scale obviously, i'm talking about say a ht4 spear user vs a lt3 non spear user or smthn like that
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Yeah that was my point. The spear makes a massive difference in modern smp kits. Ofc in a non-equal matchup it’s possible to beat a spear user. It’s also possible to beat someone without armor if they’re really bad which is why I compared equal skill players
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits i mean sure in an equal skill matchup the person with more stuff almost always wins
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits I would say that in an equal skill matchup a spear user will almost always win. You’d have to hold shield at the start of exchanges to block the spear which makes you very vulnerable. How would you even agro bc a shield will make you too slow and the enemy has more reach
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits my point is it makes it possible to win a fight without a spear, less likely ofc but still possible
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits What are we even arguing about 😭 Obviously you should shield smart, people already do that. But no amount of shielding will stop your enemy from hitting you. What’s your point
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits then just shield smart, hold it up when they're using reach and if they're moving in then just play accordingly (also a backstab from 4.5 blocks away is way to predictable)
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Obviously, but holding up a shield for long is generally just bad gameplay and will get you punished via momentum breaks, secondaries or backstabs (those might get a lot better with the new dashes). U cant freely combo a shield user ofc but its not like they can block everything
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits no real way of playing around it if they just hold up aside from disabling normally
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits I meant just disabling the shield normally or playing around it. It’ll be a weird mix of normal hits and abusing extra reach. And yeah u can’t qd very easily so I’m guessing it’ll be a more drain focused meta
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@TogezW @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits yeah it has a bunch of uses and i agree that given the possibility they should nerf it but it not doing much damage means that it's insanely hard to quick drop someone and idk how you get passed the shield other than going in and disabling it normaly in which case you're in range
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@MegaEdeath @finnchicke34824 @divydend @inteledits Still has a ton of use cases. I mean you can’t crit but neither can your opponent if you’re hitting them from 4.5 blocks away. Shields are still very possible to work around
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@finnchicke34824 @divydend @TogezW @inteledits yeah checked it with kb 1 and scratch the less knockback part, but it still gets kinda hard countered by shields (and lack of damage)
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@divydend @inteledits I agree with you in theory but in my opinion atleast for shield disables it’s simply way better than the intended behaviour. When shield stuns were patched on paper it created a much more defensive and boring playstyle that punishes shield breaking. Same would happen here
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@inteledits ngI with the way it works in pvp right now especiaIIy in shieId gamemodes it aImost feeIs Iike you HAVE to Iearn how to spam it every singIe hit if you want to even have a chance against a Iot of the better pIayers; a bug shouId not have that much importance in pvp😭
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