𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐬𝐈𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐩𝐡𝐨𝐛𝐢𝐚

Disabled, Esq.@DisabledEsq

@Kassandra_Zerb @Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Find me where she said they're male. She has regarding CAIS, because testes is part of the male phenotype. She has never said Swyer's are. I also never stated she said they are female. I said because there's no male development. She accepts that clinical frameworks are different.

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KassandraZ@Kassandra_Zerb·4h

@TransInterphobe @Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 She did say they were make, just like CAIS are male with intersex condition. She thinks they should be ACCOMMODATED on account of their disorder, via an EXEMPTION, rather than because they are female.

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Talia ~Makoyi~ Nava@shamanspirit13·15 Nis

This is Jeanne Nollman. She was born in the 1970s in New York. Her story is very typical for women with her condition: when she failed to get her period, her parents took her to the doctor. During that period of time, doctors were not always as honest as they should have been...

@Apotto420 @Onionfries73947 @metrospectre @shamanspirit13 @Marzipan1356921 This is a Swyer patient. He’s a whole ass man with a dysfunctional reproductive system.

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𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐬𝐈𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐩𝐡𝐨𝐛𝐢𝐚@TransInterphobe

@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 This post was not about legal policy. And the convo was about clinical frameworks, that you and Disabled ignore. Both Grok and Gemini reviewed the convo, and agree that I used the word "control" in the common English usage context, not in a legal one. x.com/TransInterphob…

@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 You're not a biologist, not a clinician. You have zero expertise. Too bad all you can do is complain about something you have no control whatsoever over.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·4h

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@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 I never shifted goal posts. you introduced irrelevant ones. You are not an expert clinician in the care of DSD conditions. Therefore you have no professional opinion wrt DSDs, and your being licensed does not grant you any expertise regarding how these conditions are managed.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·4h

Yea you can keep shifting the goal posts. You've given up defending your original claims so we must therefore now agree I'm an expert specialist clinician providing direct patient care to people related to the medical implications of their DSD, as an allied health professional within my scope of practice.

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@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Treating a condition and treating its effects aren’t mutually exclusive. Replacing missing hormones is treating the biological mechanism of a DSD, even if the syndrome itself remains. Managing symptoms is treating effects. Medicine routinely does both.

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@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Is insulin treating the syndrome (diabetes) or the effects of the syndrome? Is the dexamethsone I needed treat the syndrome (adrenal), or the effects of the syndrome. Are cardiac meds treating the condition, or the effects of the condition. I picked the lane, you just disagree.

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@TTExulansic @Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Do you not see that the XXY female has the same etiology as the Swyer person? Yet developed ovaries because the second X that one finds in Klinefelter, resulted in ovarian development. The XXY female does not have Klinefelter. Swyer and Klinefelter were used for illustration.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·4h

@TransInterphobe @Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Do you not see the word Swyer

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@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 No I don't. I correctly used the word "control" with the standard English use. Only you and Disabled want to insist it's a legal concept. Without explaining how. Most readers understand the standard English use. Few would interpret is as a legal concept in the scope of the convo.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·4h

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@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 I've never claimed they don't have the syndrome. HRT is still treating the syndrome, by replacing supplementing/the hormones people with DSDs lack. Like a cardiologist treats a diagnosed heart condition. The patient still has the condition, it's just managed. same with DSDs.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·4h

@TransInterphobe @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 No, hormones treat hormone deficiencies caused by these disorders, just like speech therapy treats the developmental problems caused by these disorders. But they still have the syndrome. You haven't treated the underlying condition unless you got out CRISPR

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@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 You are not diagnosing or treating the DSD. You may have a person with a DSD referred to you by a physician and/or geneticist who diagnoses and treats the DSD condition. And the physician is one who has studied internal medicine, not a PCP/GP.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·4h

@TransInterphobe @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 I'm diagnosing within my scope of practice. That's... how it always works when you have an interdisciplinary team of specialist expert clinicians addressing various effects of a complex incurable disorder.

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@TTExulansic @Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 That post is about the rare 47 XXY female. She is properly stating that XY is a genetic male by karyotype, but biology doesn't define sex by chromosomes, it determines sex by them. Definition is based on anisogamy. She is discussing determination, not definition. Not the same.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·4h

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@Kassandra_Zerb @Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 She has never called them male. I was in that convo with you, her, and LP. There is no male sex development. That's why she says they are allowed in women's sports, along with CAIS. No male development, no male advantage. She blocked you for twisting her words.

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KassandraZ@Kassandra_Zerb·5h

@TransInterphobe @Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Emma literally says that Swyer's is disordered male sex development. You're misrepresenting her words.

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𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐬𝐈𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐩𝐡𝐨𝐛𝐢𝐚@TransInterphobe

@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 I used them in the context of physicians and geneticists, who are the ones who diagnose, and devise the treatment plan for, a person with a DSD. You do none of those. It is you who is shifting goalposts way from what my position has always been. x.com/TransInterphob…

@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Not as a specialist who cares for the specific issues people with DSDs have. These are all medical doctors,, and geneticists. You do not care or treat DSDs. You treating an issue that a person with a DSD may have, requiring a SLP, is not being a specialists in DSD care.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·5h

@TransInterphobe @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Yea you can keep shifting the goalposts all you want and continue to look ridiculous not knowing what terms like clinician and specialist mean.

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@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 You aren't diagnosing them, you are merely stating the code used by the treating physician for their condition, that the physician used in the referral to you. You are not a doctor who is treating the DSD condition, you may be treating something that is a result of a DSD.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·5h

@TransInterphobe @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Hey so we actually also document their medical diagnoses in their charts. It's an interdisciplinary team and we're all treating the different symptoms of the incurable conditions.

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@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 No one claimed they don't have the syndrome. HRT treats the syndrome, under the supervision of a clinical specialist in DSDs, as in a doctor of internal medicine. They are still treating the DSD itself. They manage the care, and refer to other clinicians as needed.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·5h

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@TransInterphobe @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95

@TTExulansic @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 I can't help it if you can't differentiate between standard english us, and legal use. Because you and disabled are too dumb to comprehend the difference.

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Exulansic@TTExulansic·5h

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GJ2@Kindun526·6h

@TransInterphobe @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 They did differentiate, then they failed. Testicular failure isn’t a cause for disorder in females. Femaleness isn’t the outcome of failed maleness. We are sexed from conception. Sex-specific development precedes gonadal differentiation. Hilton explains how they’re male.

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@Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Early testicular failure, means that no testes developed. The gonads failed to differentiate, so the individual is left with streaks. Yes, you suck at reading comprehension. Emma explains how there is no male development in Swyers, which is why Khelif cannot have Swyer's.

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GJ2@Kindun526·6h

@TransInterphobe @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 Their failed testes see part of their phenotype. I don’t “suck at reading comprehension” it is your side that sucks and appreciating the implications of your own arguments.

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@Kindun526 @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 They have primary hypogonadism. Testes are smaller, insufficient T production, sterility. The same issue found in the 47XXY aneuploidy known as Klinefelter Syndrome.

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GJ2@Kindun526·8h

@TransInterphobe @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @HatzKatzn @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 What DSD do XX Males have? Being male syndrome?

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@Kindun526 @HatzKatzn @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 You really suck at reading comprehension. Where in that thread, does she describe a male developmental pathway? Please tell me at what point was there male anything? Gonads? Nope. Never developed. System? Nope. They have Mullerian ducts. Phenotype? Nope. They have a vagina/vulva.

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GJ2@Kindun526·7h

@HatzKatzn @TransInterphobe @DisabledEsq @heikateryna @GenCritThink @TTExulansic @shamanspirit13 @TheLawfulEvil @Kassandra_Zerb @Apotto420 @edu_46XX @Onionfries73947 @PrishaMosley @thepeacepoet99 @dragonTKO95 I’m glad you finally admit that femaleness is failed maleness

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