TJ Tribble

@jloose128 The curvature of the earth is beating my ass, how is Michigan showing up on the top of Alaska

The Final Four!

@gene4runner @jloose128 It has nothing to do with who’s rooting for who. It’s literally just a map of which team is geographically the closest.

@jloose128 i see what you’re trying to do but ohio being yellow is incorrect

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I answered your question. Reflect on that, and maybe reflect on your inability to engage with people beyond their last tweet before getting into your next Twitter argument. Safe travels, I’ll be going to sleep now.

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it Yes, I know some of them, disagreeing on that. So?

scientific american, ladies and gentlemen

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it Because the entire premise of the entire thread was how mathematicians felt about it twitter.com/nlrg_it/status…

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I talk now to the authors of the textbooks I learned by, they disagree with one another, and sometimes even with the previous selves from the past, they're mostly in the field of physics, - why can't you entertain the possiblity that the textbooks in math aren't the final word?

@Opaopa13 @eleusinianatlas @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I wouldn’t say they knew nothing about nothing. Their knowledge on limits and convergence actually kept me around longer than I should’ve stayed. They just fundamentally misunderstood what the hell we were talking about.

@eleusinianatlas @TribbleTj @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it Also I'd like to note here that floating point numbers cannot properly store 0.1. When a float claims to be 0.1, it's truncating the imprecision. This does not mean 0.1 is not a real number. I'm coming to realize you don't actually know anything about anything. Oh well.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I don’t mean you have a flawed understanding of mathematics or infinities. You actually seem to understand that stuff pretty well. I mean you literally got the textbook definition of the … notation wrong. There’s no room for interpretation there.

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it You're a good illustration of the Dunning–Kruger effect. Have fun swimming in the lake Mediocrity.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it It just clicked that I’ve been arguing with someone who doesn’t even understand what the notation we’ve been arguing about even is. Have a blessed day.

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it How do you know that ther are more "...33333...." in 0.33333... ? Because you know the operation they're produced by, 1/3. It's not decimal representation, without knowing 1/3, you wouldn't know that there's no some "1445457" down the line. You just brand algorithm as a number.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it 99% of the time it’s a thought experiment for middle schoolers and people that almost failed algebra 2 in highschool. The other 1% comes from doing things like 1/3 * 3

@Opaopa13 @TribbleTj @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it Then why use it instead of 1 if you claim they're the same?

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it Look man you said you wouldn’t write 1/3 as a decimal because it couldn’t be inputted into a computer. If you aren’t willing to consider even wanting to do that then idk what else to tell you.

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I say the other way around, stating that 0.999... = 1 is exactly appliactional aprroach, the engineering one. Cutting a stick in half, then cutting the half in half, etc, will get you to no stick in your hands, but mathemtically 1/2, 1/4, 1/16... never ends. Same with 0.999... .

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I think the issue here is just that your fields of interest are just too removed from the use cases of this notation. A scientist or applied mathematician probably wouldn’t need to express fractions are periodic decimals. A mathematician would and so we do.

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it That's all we can say - "the algorithm doesn't stop for sure". We can prove it. But there's no such number as an infinity or "..." that can be used the INPUT of a computer or our compuation by hand. "Never stopped repeating" is a Turing machine's action we predict, not a number.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it Hmm, if only there was a simple and straightforward way we could express that the computation never stopped repeating

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I wouldn't. If you remember the algorithm of division you did at school on a piece of paper with your head and a pen, or coded in machine code directly, you know that the compuation of 1/3 will never stop neither in decimal nor binary numbers.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it How would you express 1/3 as a decimal

@Opaopa13 @TribbleTj @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I have no definition, I just reject the definition you like. I think that that definition is a manifestation of human nature, of OCD in this case. There's a lot more of these manifestations in physics, but humans are still humans in all fields.

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Light rail now connects Seattle to the east side. Historic day!

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I’m somewhat familiar with Zeno’s paradoxes but I’m not sure what point you’re making here. Who is the “someone” you’re referring to?

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it The thing is that someone wanted to do something with math, make personal contribution, and defined the things the way he liked. It's still about Zeno's pardoxes, and dozens of people claimed solving them. The problem is that the solutions differ with their authors.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it See you just turned it into a function. That’s not what it is.

@Opaopa13 @TribbleTj @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it x = 0.9999(n-th "9"). With what x the expression 1-x will be equal 0? Since there's no such x, the expression is not equal 1.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it It’s nothing like 1/0= inf. That’s a matter of the meaning of dividing by zero, the limit thing is just notation. The reason why we would use the … notation is because high schoolers aren’t taught limits until at least PreCalc but elementary students can convert 1/3 into decimal

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I don't agree with it. It's the same as to say that 1/0 = infinity. It's kinda common sense, but rigorously speaking, this operation doesn't exist. You can define it this way, I just don't see a reason to do that, other than OCD, the urge to make everything tidy.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I don’t know anything about physics so you’ve lost me with this one unfortunately

@TribbleTj @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it A better example, classical field in a flat spacetime, electrical or graviational: F = GmM/r2. It gets weaker and weaker with the distance r growing, but what's the point of defining its force as 0 at the infinite range? Its decreasing actually never ends, then why do that?

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it They are defining 0.9999… as the limit of the series

@Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @TribbleTj @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it Do you see the notion "lim" there? It's not the 0.999... = 1, it's its limit.

@eleusinianatlas @Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it Would you say that the limit of a series that converges to a number equals that number?

@Opaopa13 @LurkasaurusRex @TribbleTj @Unlearned_Hand @Draren_Thiralas @NLRG_it I just rejcet the idea of converging being the same as being equal. To converge means to make the difference between the converging entity and the limit it converges to lesser than any given number. To say otherwise is to say that an asymptote crosses the line it clings to.

@ChartTwink I hate being on the left side of these charts.

1-2. nope. definitely bad