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Adam James

@TrueMessiahMin

I am a follower of the One True Messiah and the One God of Israel. HalleluYAH Matthew 5:17-20

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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos It’s literally Him quoting the OT, then He tells you to do and teach even the least of the commandments of the Law. The passage in Ezekiel says the Spirit will help you keep the Law. You just don’t want to do it, that’s on you. Have a good night
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Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
If Christ saying “it is finished” means the Law is no longer binding on believers, then why does He tell the disciples to teach all nations all things He instructed them, which includes keeping the Law? Makes no sense no matter how you spin it…
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos True or false, Jeremiah 31 says God will write them in your mind or you will read and learn them? Jesus says do and teach even the least of the commandments in the Law. You apparently disagree? I’ll follow Jesus.
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ZoneChaos
ZoneChaos@ZoneChaos·
"Sure there is, Matthew 5:17-20 do and teach even the least of the commandments in the Law." nothing wrong with that, b8ut it does not bind us to need to know them verbatim as you claim. "Sure there is, Matthew 5:17-20 do and teach even the least of the commandments in the Law." Yes, but we achieve as the holy Spirit leads, without needing to memorize, verbatim, the letter of the Law.
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos Brother, just look it up instead of accusing me, the greatest commandment is Deuteronomy 6, here is what Jesus says and here is the commandment. Contradicts scripture? I’m literally quoting it.
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ZoneChaos
ZoneChaos@ZoneChaos·
"Literally the most important commandment is to meditate on the Law day and night," It is not... scripture does not make this claim... This contradicts scripture. The verses you reference are from the Old Covenant period (Joshua leading Israel under the Mosaic Law, and Psalms). Under the New Covenant, we still delight in meditating on God’s Word day and night — but now it’s centered on Christ who tells those under the New Covenant the two most important commandments, referenced earlier and what you bring up in the OT is no longer required under this New Covenant.
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos Sure there is, Matthew 5:17-20 do and teach even the least of the commandments in the Law. Literally the most important commandment is to meditate on the Law day and night, obedience is how we show love to God. The Law remains the standard for sin.
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ZoneChaos@ZoneChaos·
"yet you still have to read to learn it?" Yes, we still read and study Scripture daily under the New Covenant — but that’s how God writes His law on our hearts and minds. There is no New Testament command for believers to memorize the entire Torah verbatim. The expectation is obedience from the heart by the power of the Spirit as we grow in knowledge of Christ and His Word.
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos What I’m saying is this is a future prophesy, the NC isn’t yet complete. The Law will be written on our heart and mind. No one will teach about God for we shall all know Him. It hasn’t been fully realized. If a commandment is written and you can keep it, keep it
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ZoneChaos
ZoneChaos@ZoneChaos·
"Why does God say He will write it in your mind" This is internal transformation by the Spirit, not just external rules we keep having to memorize verbatim. We still read Scripture daily (like the Bereans in Acts 17:11, or the Psalm 1:2 delight in the law of the Lord), but under the New Covenant the Holy Spirit enables obedience from the heart (Ezek 36:26-27; Rom 8:2-4; 2 Cor 3:6). The law of Christ fulfills and summarizes the righteous requirement of the old (Matt 5:17; Rom 13:8-10; Gal 5:14; 6:2). It’s grace producing what the letter could never do (Rom 8:3-4). The standard isn’t “know the entire Torah verbatim in your head right now.” It’s loving God and neighbor as the Spirit leads us into all truth (John 16:13). That’s why Paul could say he was “not being without law toward God but under the law of Christ” (1 Cor 9:21).
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos Those are the two most important commandments per Jesus words. And the first one is Deuteronomy 6 to meditate on the Law day and night. Why does God say He will write it in your mind, yet you still have to read to learn it?
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ZoneChaos
ZoneChaos@ZoneChaos·
"If the Law is written on your mind and in your heart, as Jeremiah 31 says, you should know the entire Law verbatim. This is a future prophesy." The entire Law of Christ I am expected to follow: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. Love your neighbor as yourself.
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos If the Law is written on your mind and in your heart, as Jeremiah 31 says, you should know the entire Law verbatim. This is a future prophesy. The standard must be what is written, homos will say it’s not on their heart to repent from sodomy. It’s a slippery slope…
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Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@DocKrease @BrysonGray Got it, I mean I do see you write in the comments on them so I always wonder why you don’t hop on and talk.
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Zach
Zach@DocKrease·
@TrueMessiahMin @BrysonGray Hop on & listen? Yes. Bother talking? No. I deal with enough people slamming their opinions at people in monologue form on a daily basis, I don’t need it on my time off.
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CCG BRYSON@BrysonGray·
The greek word in James 2:24 literally means alone dawg. That's why most translations have it that way.
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@BrysonGray So you’re inserting “alone” there, that very thing you like to claim other people do. Amazing how it’s acceptable when you do it, but only when you do it. Wow.

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Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos 21 To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law. The Law of Christ is not outside the Law of God.
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ZoneChaos
ZoneChaos@ZoneChaos·
Paul says The Law of Christ is the Law of God. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death.” (Rom 8:2) “Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.” (Gal 6:2) Jeremiah 31:33 / Hebrews 8:10 — God writes His laws on our hearts under the New Covenant. It’s the same righteous standard of God, now empowered by the Spirit instead of external stone tablets (2 Cor 3:3-6). As I said: "...the law of Christ is written on our hearts now and not on paper." "We can follow the law without memorizing it and keeping it word for words."
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Zach
Zach@DocKrease·
@BrysonGray So you’re circling that back to say he’s comparing it to demons, when that comparison is made in v. 19, where he talks about assent / belief only, that is a dead faith or strict acknowledgment. Gotcha.
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"Tetelestai" (It is finished / Paid in full) In the context of first-century accounting and legal language, tetelestai was stamped on paid debts or fulfilled contracts—the obligation was fully satisfied, nothing more was owed. I don't see it as a "Law" statement. It's grace for believers.
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@ZoneChaos Question, Paul says the Law of Christ is outside or not outside the Law of God?
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ZoneChaos
ZoneChaos@ZoneChaos·
@TrueMessiahMin It does make sense, you just miss the part about the law of Christ is written on our hearts now and not on paper. We can follow the law without memorizing it and keeping it word for words.
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D. T. Ison
D. T. Ison@shma_israel·
Examining this more closely, Jesus said prior to betrayal by Judas: "I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do." John 17.4 During prayer, Jesus said the work was finished. What more did Jesus say? "For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me", and, "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." John 17.8, 17.17. Without ambiguity, whatever Jesus understood his mission to be, it was fulfilled (telelu, Strong's 5048) several hours before the cross, and that mission's purpose was to sanctify the disciples by imparting to them God's word. (Law) John 17.14. As a result, the common saying in Christian churches, 'We no longer need to keep the law' is following some other voice, and not Jesus. This concurs with the words of Jesus in Matthew 5.17-19, Mark 10.17-19, Luke 10:25-28 and Luke 18.18-20. It also concurs with Peter's vocal affirmation of the Law in Acts 15.21, For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. In John 10.5 Jesus taught that his disciples would not follow the voice of a stranger, namely, another voice teaching the opposite of what Jesus said.
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@Be_Like_JChrist @Steebles1 Have to change the scripture now? Getting desperate, eh? 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished
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Tyler
Tyler@PreachYeshua·
If Yeshua (Jesus) abolished (did away with) the Law as many claim Paul taught, then why did He explicitly say: “I did not come to abolish the Law.” (Matthew 5:17)
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Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@Be_Like_JChrist @Steebles1 I was using your logic to show the weakness in your argument. You said any change results in a jot or tittle passing away. The Levitical priesthood is prophesied to be reinstated in the Christ’s kingdom, specifically the line of Zadok. It hasn’t passed away.
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Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
@Be_Like_JChrist @Steebles1 Bud, sometimes ya gotta make your wife dinner, ya know? So by your logic, when God changed from requiring redemption for every firstborn to instituting the Levitical priesthood, the Law was done away with then also?
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Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
The excuses to not keep God’s commandments are astounding.
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Joe North@JoeNorthR828

@TrueMessiahMin @Be_Like_JChrist @Steebles1 Because right there in the passage He tells you that it will pass away, and it has. The temple and Jerusalem were destroyed, the very place heaven and earth met. That age is gone, finished, done away with.

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George Wade
George Wade@GeorgeEWade·
@TrueMessiahMin Trouble is, people with acknowledged Catholic tradition founded hermeneutic denounce opposing scripture, even the words of Jesus.
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Adam James
Adam James@TrueMessiahMin·
If your whole hermeneutic depends on an idea that isn’t plainly written in scripture, it’s a manmade tradition.
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