"The Wheel and the Will" johncarpenter.substack.com/p/the-wheel-an…
The Potter can make the vessel as it seems good to Him.
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John B. Carpenter
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John B. Carpenter
@CovenantReform2
Pastor, Covenant Reformed Baptist Church (Danville, VA) book: Seven Pillars of a Biblical Church (Wipf & Stock) substack: Covenant Caswell PhD, ThM, MDiv
Danville, Virginia Katılım Mart 2019
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@GdalfTheGr33n @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob No, it does not.
It specifically says "any likeness of anything".
You're not actually reading the commandment.
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@CovenantReform2 @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob No dude, lol. “Graven images.” What a graven image is, is literally in the description of the image itself. Christ, nor the Saints, are graven.
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@DrJoeBoot We can make natural law arguments for corporal punishment, restitution, capital punishment, and exile (deportation). Singapore practices those things.
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None of this will improve until the biblical tools of corporal punishment, restitution, capital punishment and exile (deportation) are restored. Theonomy now.
Robert Jenrick@RobertJenrick
At the end of the trial, the judge praised how the two convicted rapists had conducted themselves: ‘You have done very well…’ He then let them off with a ‘rehabilitation order’. It was a disgrace. It wasn’t justice for the victims and their families. If you rape girls, brandish a knife, film it for sport - premeditated - you should go to prison. For a very long time. What message does this send to rapists? This insulting lenient ‘sentence’ must be overturned. The suitability of the judge who made this perverse decision must be reviewed by the Lady Chief Justice. It shows the rot that’s set in our criminal justice system. The Justice Secretary’s plan to create a softer route through the criminal justice system for those under 25 is mistaken. It will only encourage more of this. And David Lammy proposes raising the age of criminal responsibility to 14. That would have meant, for example, the killers of Jamie Bulger escaping prison altogether. No. Those who commit the most despicable - evil - crimes must go to jail. For punishment. For public protection. For justice. It’s as simple as that.
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@GdalfTheGr33n @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob No, it does not. It specifically says not to bow to an image of anything.
It doesn't matter what the image is of or what you call it or what you claim you are doing. If you use an image in prayer and worship, you are an idolater, not a Christian.
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@CovenantReform2 @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob No, the 2nd Commandment forbids Idols. The Icon is not an Idol, it’s the image of the prototype. Nothing more, nothing less. It helps to actually focus the mind during prayer as well. We don’t pray “to” anIcon of Christ, we pray to Christ while present before His Icon.
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@rickbrennanjr Icons are also a good example since the early church was overtly opposed to them and Rome accepts Nicaea 2 which embraced icons.
Of course, American Catholics are sometimes unaware of how iconography is part of their church since the RCC in America doesn't flaunt their icons.
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On my X feed today I read this claim:
“For 2,000 years, the Catholic Church has never changed doctrine, edited doctrine, or ‘corrected’ revealed truth to fit the times. That consistency is not human achievement. It is the work of the Holy Spirit guiding the Church in matters of faith and doctrine.”
This is essentially what I was taught when I was catechized as a Roman Catholic in the 1950s and 1960s.
But history shows that this claim is demonstrably false. First, many doctrines now required by Rome were not taught with anything like their later dogmatic precision in the early undivided Church. For example, Transubstantiation was not dogmatically defined until Lateran IV in 1215. The Immaculate Conception was not defined until 1854. Papal infallibility was not defined until 1870. The bodily Assumption of Mary was not defined until 1950.
Second, Rome’s current posture toward Protestants is plainly different from the condemnatory language of Trent. Vatican II did not erase Trent’s anathemas, but it did reframe Protestants as “separated brethren” in a way that would have sounded strange in the sixteenth century. That clearly was a result of doctrinal change made to “fit the time.” That is exactly the point made by “trad” Catholics and the SSPX.
Third, the historical record is far more complex than the simple claim that Rome has always taught the same thing in the same way. Rome’s answer is to call this “development of doctrine.”
But that only proves the point: doctrine has developed, shifted, hardened, and been rearticulated over time. The real question is whether those later developments are faithful clarifications of apostolic teaching or later accretions imposed by ecclesial authority. As a Protestant, I believe many of them are not catholic in the ancient sense, but Roman innovations that placed later tradition over the clear teaching of Scripture.
Ojike Uzoma@Xtopher_Uzo
All my life as a Catholic, I will keep thanking God and praying for the Church. One thing you learn as a Catholic is this: the Church cannot change doctrine because of your feelings, opinions, or modern trends. The Church is bigger than that because the truth is bigger than us. If something does not sound clear to you, the Church will explain why it teaches it. If you are still not satisfied, the Church will go even deeper and give you more reasons grounded in Scripture, Tradition, history, and theology. And if you still choose to walk away, the Church will pray for you and leave you to God and your conscience. That is why many people leave the Church confidently, only to return later after discovering the truth outside. For 2,000 years, the Catholic Church has never changed doctrine, edited doctrine, or "corrected" revealed truth to fit the times. That consistency is not human achievement. It is the work of the Holy Spirit guiding the Church in matters of faith and doctrine. That is why Catholics believe in the indefectibility of the Church and the infallibility of the Pope when defining dogma ex cathedra. Christ did not leave us confusion. He left us a Church. Be Catholic and be proud of it. God bless us and God bless the Catholic Church.
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@palparteek2_0 @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob You ignore the actual teachings of the early church because your self-serving sect broke away from it.
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@CovenantReform2 @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob lol
Stop vomiting non sequiturs and your non sensical rhetorical declarations boomer. Answer my question you fragile intellectual coward.
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@Kutishafemini @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob No, it does not. The 2nd commandment forbids bowing to any image.
Decorations are not icons.
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@CovenantReform2 @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob The Second Commandment forbids idols, not all sacred images otherwise God would contradict Himself by commanding Seraphim in the tabernacle. The early Christians made images in the catacombs and Dura because the issue was worship of false gods, not Christian iconography.
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@Kutishafemini @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob You're the one who supports Muslim terrorists and sexual perversion while pretending to be a Christian but actually bowing to idols.
You've managed to combine every bad idea, completely unaware that they are self-contradictory and have nothing in common except that they are wrong
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@CovenantReform2 @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob Where did this come from? You're more in common with a Muslim you're an iconoclast! What did I do to you? Aren't you a Pastor?
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@Be_Like_JChrist God hates Esau (Romans 9:13). He doesn't want him saved.
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@MendamCaedo @dhanabarger You just lied.
You broke the 9th commandment.
Revelation 21:8 says that all liars go to hell.
If you had any real fear of God, you'd repent, delete your lie, and examine yourself as to whether you're really in the faith (2 Cor 13:5).
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@dhanabarger "God is the author of all evil," -John Calvin in his book the institutes
Whoops.
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@dhanabarger They can't be elect. They can't *ALL* be elect. They can't lose their election, nor can your static heretical god change his mind. So what's the cope argument you've got up your sleeve besides crying that I don't "understand"?
GIF
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@JoshuaTrolly @bannedpastor I'm not sure whether it is slandering dispies or it is denying the holocaust, or both.
But it's bad.
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@bannedpastor I'm as anti-dispy as the next guy... but I have never met any dispy, nor any "boomer Christian", who believes jews are saved by anything other than conversion to Christ.
I think this is just slander.
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Boomer Christians will be surprised when they get to heaven and can’t find all those holocaust victims.
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@MichaelCarlino That's congregationalism. It was committed to regenerate church membership.
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“Therefore, no one is rightly admitted into the church except on confession of faith and a promise of obedience.”
—William Ames, “The Marrow of Theology”
GIF
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What’s an underrated book of the Bible that needs to be preached from more often?
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Scripture and Tradition are not in competition. They flow together from the same apostolic source.
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@_jonbowlin "If there was no death before the Fall, why did Adam and Eve need a “tree of life” to gain immortality?"
godandnature.asa3.org/carpenter-deat…
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@Of_Bourke @drewdyck You're an idolater and a liar.
You break both the second and ninth commandments.
You're not a Christian or even a remotely decent person. Your fake religion has made you morally reprehensible.
Realize that and repent.
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@CovenantReform2 @drewdyck You're a heretic with multiple personalities.
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@CovenantReform2 @drewdyck Next you'll say Arius was right and the rest of the 318 bishops and Saint Constantine the Great were wrong.
Idiot.
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@Of_Bourke @drewdyck Your sect is not part of the true church.
We can tell by the fact that it breaks the 2nd commandment and the tradition of the early church.
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@GdalfTheGr33n @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob It says "or" serve them. Do not bow to images or venerate them. It prohibits exactly what you do. The early church knew that and so strictly prohibited icons.
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@CovenantReform2 @Gnosisinformant @ByJimbob Lol “serve them” is actually the context here. the Israelites began to burn incense and offer sacrifices to the bronze serpent, they shifted their reliance from God to the physical object itself. We don’t rely on Icons, the piece of wood and paint, to save us or answer prayers.
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