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TheWatchMan
@TruthsSake
The Bible teaches that we are currently living in the day of judgment which began upon the world and that His judgment first began on all the churches.
Katılım Ocak 2025
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God doesn’t make appearances because it’s by design. After finishing the word of God, He stopped doing that. There are many false gospels that claim they heard or seen something from God but they’re fake prophets and God warns of them, that they’d multiply in the last days as one of the signs that we are at the end and it also treated to another endtime sign He gives concerning the spiritual condition of the churches, that they’re spiritually dead and under His judgment for their rebellion an doctrinal high places. So the lies about visions and dreams coming from Him is one of those examples of their rebellion and its multiplied today because He forsook the church just as He forsook Israel for its doctrinal high places. So yes, God does not speak to people anymore. He’s designed it that way as a testing program to see if man would believe based on His word and man has failed it. But the only way God speaks to people now is truth His living word which is spiritual.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave The simple fact that god doesn’t make appearances since then. And I know for a full fact you have not heard wisdom for god. Any person who said they actually heard god or seen a miracle are just nitpicking, lying, and just saying anything is a miracle.
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God set up the world in a way to make it look like we evolved over a long period of time. He sets up snares to snare the foolish. Ultimately you’re using methods to measure that which makes up this lhaycal material world but God is from a different spiritual dimension which cannot be seen or measured.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave Specific gems decorating heaven, just so happens to be all gems on earth and specifically the ones that sparked a bit more. Dinosaurs not really having an explanation. Evolution completely destroying Adam and Eve, in fact that and noah can’t work without inbreeding.
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Yes. God took on the form of a speaking bush. He spoke through a Donkey. He created man from nothing. He created this world. He is an awesome God. But I don’t believe any of those things out of my own faith. If I did, it would probably sound foolish to me too. But once God gives His faith to His people via salvation, it’s not optional for them to no longer believe it. The will believe it. And they will believe it in truth. So sure, you can call it stupid. Much of the world thinks that way. It’s nothing revelatory to me. So it doesn’t bother me the slightest.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave Imagine how you can’t see the fiction behind the Bible. How convenient it’s only earth and humans who sin, oh wow people who wanted answer to question got it from the speaking bush. A fucking sheep herder (who are known to be able to lose their sanity) saw a burning bush.
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That’s easy to explain. Animals die because they are part of this creation which was cursed. Did animals break the law of God? No. Why? Because animals were not created in the image of God and are not subject to Gods laws. They’re not created with souls either. So they’re only part of the physical creation. And therefore the see death because of corruption that came upon that creation as a result of man’s sin.
So it’s not sinful for God to kill animals, or man to kill them for food for example.
So again. No contradiction at all. You just don’t like it.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave You still didn’t mention why are animals killed if they cannot sin? God it killing, allows the killing, and orders the killing of innocents souls. You follow that god, you’re a hypocrite and just disgusting too.
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No. I didn’t contradict myself. You’re not reading what I wrote. I never said children cannot be sinful. Show me a screenshot of where I said children cannot commit sin. I said they haven’t grown up to mature their personalities where their sinful characteristics show forth, but they’re still sinners because they have wicked hearts they’re born with and thus are guilty.
That’s what I said. So no contradiction.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave You’re disgusting and so is your god. Also dumbass your own bible contradicts itself, from stating children cannot be sinful to saying one was sinful at birth. Your fake story can’t even stay true to itself. So does god. To kill children is horrible none the less
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@Theb0y111 @etherXwave Killing isn’t bad if it’s justified. It’s bad to man but to God it’s justice. And justice is good. Murder however is bad. But God doesn’t murder.
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You’re not going over this in good faith. I’ve specifically assessed this question a number of times now. If you’re not interested in reading what I said, then I won’t continue with you. I’ll repeat it one more time.
The Hebrew word (or any word) in the Bible that’s translated as “kill” doesn’t always mean “kill” but can also mean “murder.”
Killing and murder are not the same thing necessarily. Killing is broadly the taking of life which can be done either justifiably or unjustifiably.
When God refers to “killing” in the context of it being sinful, He is NOT referring to just killing. He is referring to “murder.” For example, the command “thou shalt not kill” can be translated as “thou shalt not murder.” It’s not relating to the justifiable talking of human life.
God only kills in a justifiable way when He takes a life of someone who is guilty or who has sinned. He did that with man.
God also sets up governments to be bale to also take the lives of lawbreakers who brew the law of the land, since we are to follow the law of the land insofar as it is in accordance with Gods supreme law which is over man’s laws. So a government is also justified in executing lawbreakers. That also would not be murder.
However, if a government genocides innocent people who haven’t broken laws, then it would be murder. And from time to time you do get bad leaders who indiscriminately murder people who are innocent of breaking any laws.
God however could take out an entire nation and that wouldn’t be murder. If a hurricane wiped out a town tomorrow, that would be Gods judgment on those people because they’re sinners/law breakers.
However, Gods elect are still in unsaved bodies even after salvation so they’re also not immune from dying physically. Their sinful bodies are also subject to the curse that came upon man due to Gods judgment. But their bodies will be saved on the last day so they don’t see eternal death like the unsaved do.
So there is again no contradiction. God kills, but He does not murder. He is the judge executing justice.
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God created man with free will to do what they wanted to do, but not when it comes to salvation because you’re free will of doing good work does not get you saved. The law calls for the shedding of blood for remission of sin, not good works. So when God created Adam and He created them with the free will to make their own choices and He allowed them to make their own choices, even if it led to sin them. So God does not just create robots. He does create man with free will. And man decided with that free world to be against God. But God knew this would happen, and he used it to show force his mercy to the principalities and powers of His eternal kingdom. So he is using this whole situation for His own purpose.
Ironically, from man’s point of view, there’s no difference between what occurs for the unsaved in the scenario, the atheist Ford, and in God’s scenario. The atheist says that mankind has no afterlife, and when they die, they return the grave. And that is exactly what happens for the unsaved. They are not suffering forever more in a place called hell physically. Hell simply is a synonym for “the grave.”
So unsafe live out alive that they would have never lived. Had God destroyed Adam and Eve the day that they were rebelled. So in a way God is even showing forth his blessings on the unsaved who never will become saved because he allows them to live out lives that, while they do have the curse upon them due to sin, they still for the most part live out lives with many blessings that they enjoy and then they simply return back to a state of nonexistence just like before they were born. And despite all the curse due to sin, upon mankind in this world, most people still enjoy their lives and they do not want to die. So even by their own admission God has been good to them in allowing them to have lives to live out in the first place.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave God kills kids how are they guilty dumbass? God kills animals, how are they guilty dumbass? God know all and made a punishment for humanity if they ate and apple all while knowing they would eat the apple. He didn’t give a choice, he chose to cause torment and suffering.
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None of this is contradictory to God’s laws and natures. So you are not proving anything. All you are doing is repeating yourself and saying God is a moral for killing people. I already explained to you why that logic does not hold up to the logic of gods laws. You’re only saying that because you simply do not like it. God is not concerned with your approval of him, however.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave No buddy god has literally ordered people to kill babies, whom cannot be evil or sinful. Meaning god ordered the killings of innocents. And you try and defend him. It’s sickening and you’re a cultist.
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No. Gods not making anyone do anything horrible. Man is doing those horrible things of his own accord, from his own corruptly nature.
God calls Himself good because He is sinless. And sin is evil, and the opposite sin/evil is good, which is the lack of sin/obedience to Gods laws.
You then make the claim that God calls Himself evil and then goes on to do evil things. No. God does not sin. So He does not do evil sinful things.
Now you may think they’re evil things, but by Gods own laws and definitions, they’re not evil things so there is no contradiction within Gods own laws nor is there any hypocrisy.
The things God does which you call evil is Him executing judgment. Thats not sinful evil. It’s justice upon all hose who are guilty of breaking Gods laws.
Is a judge a murder for putting someone to death for committing a crime worthy of death? No. Neither is God, who is the supreme judge over all of mankind.
Now if God were to murder that is sinful. And what is murder? The unjustifiable killing of an innocent person.
Well, God doesn’t kill/murder innocent people. He only allows the guilty to die. And all mankind is guilty because all mankind has sinned. Therefore they die.
Only those who are innocent because their guilt has been pardoned by Him will not see eternal death.
So again, you may not like it. You may think it’s messed up — and none of that matters to me because natural man doesn’t like Gods ways anyway — but there is no contradiction within Gods laws.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave No you are actively believing a all powerful being choosing to directly make people do horrible stuff is good. Thats insane, that’s stupid I don’t care. God calls himself all good and just then proceed to commit horrible acts. God commits genocide but calls it bad?
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@motorola2530 @etherXwave There are no assumptions. All other religions do not recognize Christ is eternal God who paid for sins. Islam only sees Christ as a prophet. But He was far more than just a prophet.
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@taco_talks No, biblically the earth is around 13000 years old.
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Historically Israel were the representatives of God, and they had judges who brought judgment upon God’s enemies, who were also enemies of Israel. But yes, when Israel revolt against God, God also brought judgment on Israel by bringing Israel’s enemies upon them.
The historical parables are actually a picture of the New Testament. Or the last days when the New Testament church age who is the New Testament representatives of God, falls away from truth and rebels against God and God ends up, forsaking them and bringing upon them judgment.
No, he doesn’t bring a standing physical army against him this time, but it is entirely spiritual in nature. God allow Satan to an earth, the churches and take over to deceive all those within the churches, while calling his elect out of the churches where he is saving outside those churches one last time before he comes in judgment upon the world.
The historical picture of Babylon coming against Israel was a picture of this. The king of Babylon is a picture of Satan coming against the churches which are typified by historical Israel. Israel goes into captivity, which was the great tribulation period of their time and this pictures the great tribulation period of the New Testament. When the church age comes to an end, and God’s elect are called out of the churches because he is no longer using them, and they are under the rule of Satan.
This is why God says judgment begin, begins at the house of God (1 Peter 4:17). Satan is ruling there from that point on as an angel of light and his ministers, his ministers of righteousness (2 Cor. 11:14-15). God also speaks of this as the great falling away from truth. Just as Israel fell away from truth and had high places of worship where they worshiped two false gods, the churches in the last days will fall away from truth, and have their own spiritual high places which are their fault doctrines. And this by the way is why you have thousands of different denominations with vastly different teachings and doctrine all claiming to have the same truth. They didn’t normalize it and say that it’s just them having a different interpretation of the same truth, but actuality they are all lies, and God does not accept that. God did not accept it for Israel, and he surely will not accept it with the churches.
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@motorola2530 @TruthsSake @etherXwave Interestingly, I have never seen anyone make these arguments when God orders the Nations to judge Israel when they sin. The principle works both ways; it was divine justice, and Israel received their fair share of consequences.
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First of all, why are you acting like you are offended by the slaughter of babies when the secular world kills babies all the time?
So you are being intellectually, dishonest by making this argument.
Secondly, you are using your definition of what is wrong and right and not God’s definition. God is not concerned with your definition of what is wrong and right. He does not answer to you.
God is fully justified in killing babies because babies are born into sin and come into the world speaking lies, and they grow up to continue to speak, lies and commit sin as they become adult adults.
This means they are subject to the laws of God which causes for death for anyone who has broken His laws.
This means that God is justified in taking the lies of anyone who has broken his laws whether they are an adult or a young child.
All religions are based on lies and cannot offer true salvation because they deny Christ who is the only way to salvation for those who have broken His laws. Whether it is Islam or Buddhism, they all teach that you can be a good person or get right with God by simply doing good deeds.
But good deeds do not bring about salvation because the law stipulates that there must be shedding of blood for the remission of sin. So it takes someone dying for sin to be remitted. This means if Christ did not die on your behalf, you must die for your sins. All other religions do not have Christ and do not bring you to Christ.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave A lot of yapping to justify the slaughter of babies. I hope at least you dont attack other religions for having violent passages
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You can believe what you want. You can believe God’s laws are unjust. But regardless of that, there is no contradiction in God’s laws as the person in the video was implying. But God is just because He is the judge and He is justified in executing His laws as judge upon those who break His laws. And all mankind has broken God’s laws. Which means they are all subject to death if He did not die on their behalf by paying for their sins.
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@TruthsSake @etherXwave Actual pathetic belief, there is nothing but terrible acts you just mentioned, if you believe it is right simply in the name of your god then you’re a cultist, your horrible and so is your god. It’s sickening you poor your entire faith into a horrid being like that.
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@cagedbycranium Jesus talks about forgiving your neighbor because it’s not for God’s people to bring judgment in of themselves. They must forgive others for their trespasses. But God is the judge and he judges. So there’s no contradiction as you claim.
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You’re not as wise as you may think you are. There are two forms of killing in the Bible: 1) justifiable killing for breaking the law of God and 2) murder. God had people who broke his law killed because the wages of sin is death for anyone who breaks God’s laws. They were not murdered. It was just de fireable. The same way someone is justifiably killed when they are executed for committing a murder in our judicial system. So you would be incorrect and implying that God murders people. God is just just who brings judgment upon those who break His laws.
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You can call it AI response all you want. But I gave you the scriptures showing that God does not allow sexual abuse/rape. Once again, God committed them to spare the younger women because the older women were committing idolatry. And there is a spiritual meaning behind this and that is why God had it set up that way. If you read the entire chapters, you will see that is why God spared the younger women and not the older women. It had nothing to do with rape. So you are once again, incorrect on that.
You can’t find a single shred of scripture where God explicitly commands his people to take captive and rape them. You are just going off of what atheist do when they cherry pick versus from the Bible without understanding the context. And the context, as I have shown, show shows that God would not have allowed sexual abuse because it was a capital offense. People were put to death for sins like a murder and rape. God is also under his own law so he cannot command people to commit sins. That would mean that God would sin and God cannot sin. So it goes against the very basic core principles of God’s laws.
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