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@SlugMichael @slbsn you would think if there was any other cases of saints spying against other clubs, it would have been raised by them at the time

@slbsn Re point 2, would other alleged examples (if they exist) not have to be disclosed to Southampton before the hearing so they are given time to respond?

🚨🤓 Southampton Spygate personal view: 1. Expect the breaches will be straightforward to establish (ie liability) and almost certainly admitted to try and get some sanction credit/discount 2. Expect aggravating factors such as other examples of Soton spying this year to be raised 3. Fundamental question of how serious a breach of rule 127 and good faith is will be key. We know good faith alone was £200k in the Leeds case. The new rule makes it worse and spying obviously seeks a sporting advantage - why else do it? So that does point to sporting sanction of some sort 4. Being thrown out of the Play Offs appears excessive especially given Southampton finished 7 points clear of 6th and 9 clear of 7th 5. A 3-0 in the first leg would have been an option again excessive retrospectively unless 2nd leg re-playable (not feasible) 6. More likely sanction is points deduction next season in the Championship as much as that won't help Middlesboro 7. Unlikely that the PL will take a points deduction recommendation from the EFL (no fixed rule) - doubt EFL will push for it, so would apply in first season back in Championship (when and if) 8. My best guess is SIX EFL points in first season in EFL and £500k-£1m fine 9. Boro compensation claim can be dealt with separately subject to any claim brought by Boro - difficult claim to establish due to causation issues

@Boro_ince_gazza @RobDorsettSky how is that relevant to how the hearing will go?😹

@RobDorsettSky Shows you which club is delaying the process Scumampton. Don’t give a rats about their supporters, just trying too long it out.

#boro won’t be involved in the “Spygate” independent commission hearing. It will be the EFL (as the charge-bringer) and #saintsfc (as the defendant). That is standard procedure for disciplinary cases such as this, but it means Boro will have no right of appeal after the decision.

We can now confirm ticket information for the @SkyBetChamp play-off final 🎟️

@MFCboro00 @AlfieHouseEcho @SFCLJJJ @TotalSaintsPod no, can’t appeal it

@AlfieHouseEcho @SFCLJJJ @TotalSaintsPod Throw it the other way, if the IDC doesn't hand out the preferred punishment from the EFL can they appeal? Genuine question, not trying to stir anything

Once again, I don't think this changes much but glad tickets are on sale soon. EFL have no choice but to leave options open for independent commission. Interesting that the statement includes specific mention of contingencies to allow 'appeals process' if needed tho. #SaintsFC

@AdamBlackmore 3pts docked in which league?

If I had to guess how this #SaintsFc spy mess is going to turn out if found guilty, I’d go: 500k fine 3pts docked at the start of next season And if an individual turns out to be responsible for authorising it, a possible 6 month ban That’s my nearest the pin currently⛳️

@ben00n8 @LukeSFC02 looks like he’s behind a tree, not in a bush.

@LukeSFC02 @UTSmatt Next to. Behind a tree. Theres your fucking answer gobshite.

Exact spot? I thought he was on top of a hill or in a bush? That’s an open space which I don’t think you could consider a hill #saintsfc

@ben00n8 @LukeSFC02 “the alleged spy was stood behind this tree”

@LukeSFC02 Bush.

@SaintsExtra @garystonehouse “the sun”

🚨 Middlesbrough are set to present evidence that at least two other Championship clubs were spied on by Southampton #saintsfc @garystonehouse

@18CJ_ @Josh_b222 if the argument on conduct is thrown around then should be raised imo

@UTSmatt @Josh_b222 Don’t think that’s really relevant to our game against Hull

I'm pretty certain we wont get kicked out of the play offs. #SaintsFC

@MarkDavies67 What’s your thoughts on matey calling a saints fan fat?

Oh it’s ok to abuse someone for a disability, apparently

@18CJ_ @Josh_b222 Questions would have to be raised about their player calling a fan a fat bastard or what ever was said

@Josh_b222 More worried about a THB suspension then I am getting kicked out of the playoffs

@AndyMcDonaldMP Labour PM talking about integrity, give it a rest

Kim Helberg’s post match interview showed his decency, commitment and total integrity. By contrast, the Southampton manager walks out again when asked if he is a cheat. Remarkable lack of awareness for the club spokesman to respond with “Have some respect”. 1/2.

@SaintsExtra @SkySports_Keith where’s the big bush? 🤣

📹 @SkySports_Keith stands in the exact spot where it’s alleged a member of Southampton’s staff was “spying” on Middlesbrough #saintsfc

@F1nnMcM1llan @PlayzytStyle think he’s from northern echo

@PlayzytStyle Getting your self bared like that is crazy all for 2 seconds of fam, would put my money on him being from the sun aswell

What an absolutely stupid journalist🤣

@The92Bible “The92Bible” failing to realise the balls are laid out on cones around the pitch to stop the multi ball in play issue.. crazy.

Kim and Middlesbrough have handled things well both on and off the pitch. A real shame they aren’t rewarded with a trip to Wembley. Southampton’s antics over this play-off campaign with the spy-gate, Harwood-Bellis incident and the ball-boy… not a good look.

@ghjrob @J_Tanswell what a win!

@J_Tanswell Eckert is crap his squads worth about 10x anyone else’s in the Championship bar Ipswich and Leicester 😂

Eckert’s 4-2-2-2 ground Middlesbrough down until their defenders literally couldn’t move through sheer exhaustion - shown in Charles goal. Downes came on and was outstanding. Constant passing, midfield dominance and Boro couldn’t get out

WE'VE DONE IT! 🤩

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