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Used Golf FACTS
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@SHistorians I think I agree with all of that. I’d only add that the “average golfer” will never play at a place like Bandon, Pebble, etc.
For every round played at a place like that, 100 rounds are played at a place like this:
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I would argue that most golfers get great architecture when they see it. They flock to Bandon Dunes which books up in one day, Landmand which books a year’s worth of tee times in a couple of hours, Sand Valley and Streamsong all the same.
Not to mention Pebble Beach.
Golfers not architecture nerds flock there. One thing they all have in common- few trees.
Trees can be great- treeless can be great - do we need more new tree lined courses to even out the new development?
I would say yes.
But there are no absolutes in golf design and when it comes to resorts and public venues the golfers vote with their pocketbook.
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The average golfer strongly prefers courses with trees.
A 2015 survey of golfers found that over 90% agreed that the presence of trees made the game more “fun and challenging.”
It’s only a very niche group of golf architecture nerds and superintendents that are pushing for cutting down 100+ year old trees.
Dan Rapaport@Daniel_Rapaport
Feels like we've reached an inflection point on The Tree debate. Pros, by and large, seem to not like the trend of taking out trees on golf courses. They say it reduces strategy—just bomb it everywhere, then deal. Everyone else seems to enjoy the width, vistas and better turf.
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@SHistorians It wasn’t written by golfers, and I think that shows through. But I think their point largely stands.
Very few golfers have an appreciation for the templates, etc. To the extent that there’s strategy for the average golfer it’s “where is there water / trees? Avoid that.”
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@UsedGolfFacts How old is this survey???
Did you read it? The benefits they list have almost nothing to do with golf. I actually find this article a little embarrassing.
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@Gebo___ @TheRealThabo If you’re just trolling, fair enough.
But there are people that actually think the water being used to water a golf course is otherwise potable and should therefore not be allowed. Very unserious business.
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@UsedGolfFacts @TheRealThabo I am not actually advocating for AstroTurf golf courses. Although the bounces would be hilarious
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Why don't we talk about the water consumption of an 18-hole golf course in the same way we do data centers?
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@F1Sauce True… unless they’re having issues with blisters..
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@UsedGolfFacts Pros never break in their shoes lmao. Its new out of the box every other round.
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Putting on a new pair of shoes is just about the last thing you should do if you’re having problems with blisters.
Flushing It@flushingitgolf
Rory McIlroy is on the range at the PGA Championship with a new pair of shoes. The blister on his little toe is clearly still irritating him.
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@UsedGolfFacts What should he do, just wear the same shoes that might have caused the blister?
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@Gebo___ @TheRealThabo AstroTurf would be notably worse for the environment.
I can’t fathom why anyone would want to ruin something people love and also make the environment worse off by using a bunch of plastic astroturf to redo golf courses.
Sick and depraved, imo.
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@UsedGolfFacts @TheRealThabo Well do you want a golf course or not?
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@Gebo___ @TheRealThabo Golf courses act as heat sinks in urban areas, but astroturf would not.
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@Gebo___ Because golf courses mostly use non-potable water.
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@UsedGolfFacts 1) That’s a survey from over 10 years ago
2) There are a plethora of great, difficult courses without trees
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@GreensInRegret That’s fair.
The more I think about it, the more I think it is heavily dependent on the region.
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@UsedGolfFacts There is a place for trees on golf courses, especially in the pro game, but less (not none) allows for a more enjoyable round for amateurs and is much much easier to maintain the turf
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@sportss99 Got it. Like farm land that has been converted to a golf course instead of a course that has been built amongst a forrest or wooded area.
I think I generally agree with that.
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@UsedGolfFacts Meaning i dont like courses that are artificially tree lined. I enjoy courses cut into natural landscapes, for example I love mountain golf.
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@DocExotic137 I don’t disagree, and I’m sympathetic to the superintendents’ perspective.
I just think it’s odd when golf architecture nuts make it seem like everyone loves a barren plain and that trees are somehow inherently a nuisance.
It also depends a lot on the geography of an area.
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@UsedGolfFacts Superintendents don’t like it for good reason. Trees make keeping grass more difficult and cutting the grass tougher. Add in root systems that risk injury to golfers and courses are better off without them. I’m not saying get rid of all trees but there are reasons to thin them
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@sportss99 I’m not sure I understand. Like, you don’t like courses with freshly planted trees?
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@UsedGolfFacts Damn first post I have seen from you that I can’t an actually get onboard with
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@StmDawg It saves them a ton of money to not have trees, especially in areas with high risk of weather events like Florida.
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@UsedGolfFacts Niche…? You need to get out more. Every new course in florida, including renovations of existing, has resulted in removal of thousands and thousands of trees.
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@dropbombs55 I think that’s fair. I think they still need to keep an individual leaderboard for OWGR purposes, but not really acknowledging it as part of their production and comms would make sense.
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@UsedGolfFacts No one wants to watch/invest in team golf because its being pigeon-holed into being played while a individual stroke play tournament is also occurring. I actually think a team golf league could work, but only if the entire league is built around the concept, aka anti-LIV.
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Scottie Scheffler is the owner of a professional fishing team.
Meanwhile over half of golf twitter still struggles to understand why anyone would invest in team golf.
David Rumsey@_DavidRumsey
Asked Scottie Scheffler about owning a professional fishing team, among other off-course endeavors. "It's stuff that I really believe in and I'm passionate about. The fishing team is a good example." As for his own fishing skills? "I'm still terrible."
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@KEC913 Fair, but Jon Rahm actually is hitting it as well as he ever has, or at least since he was dominating the PGA Tour back in 2023.
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@UsedGolfFacts Every serious contender is “hitting the ball as well as I ever have” the week of a major…hell I might be 10 time club champ if it contended on driving range and practice rounds
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Too much Jon Rahm slander going around.
He’s hitting the ball arguably as well as he ever has, and he will be in contention on Sunday.
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