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THIS!

The GTA 6 map has officially leaked, the biggest of all time.

@alphafox How to Meth Up Your Nutz!

Rarely am at a loss for how to caption something, but this is one of those moments: 😵

@MrBeast "I tried to save them,... I hope these people save me!" or "I've saved myself and I hope they saved themselves."

Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.

You’re doing some serious mental gymnastics. Nowhere did I agree with you not even close. I said I’m happy to ban gerrymandering nationally. I called your “reciprocal only to counter Republicans” line ahistorical bullshit. I called your “It’s literally what happened in California and Virginia” claim pure spin. I laid out how California voters passed independent commissions in 2008 and 2010 only for Democrats to trash them with Prop 50 in 2025 for a partisan power grab. I never conceded a single thing. You completely fabricated the “Glad to see you agree” line out of thin air. This is a prime example why the other side thinks the left is delusional. You are the POSTER BOY! 😂

@VANTH0R @realfeel1degree @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini Glad to see you agree that blue states intentionally used fair redistricting policies and only changed *after* Republicans increased their gerrymandering output Aka retropocity. Just like I said

@VANTH0R @realfeel1degree @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini It's literally what happened in California and VA

🚨 LIBERAL: We haven't had a black Republican Governor since reconstruction! SCOTT JENNINGS: Republicans tried to elect one in Virginia. LIBERAL: ...uh, OK, well, I'm just saying... JENNINGS: And a white Democrat gerrymandered the state. 🔥🔥🔥

@slip_n_slide02 @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini Well since Vermont and Connecticut literally cannot create extra districts themselves. The total House seats are fixed by law, not by individual state choice. Congress could fix this and it has been discussed. I don't have a proposal as I'm not a Senator.

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini Alright how do you propose Vermont and Connecticut make another congressional seat?

If Republicans aggressively gerrymander the South and eliminate up to 10 Democratic seats under a narrowed VRA, Democrats could respond in blue states. For example, this 52-0 California map could become legal, flipping four seats from 🔴 to 🔵.

@AioliChowder @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini yes exactly

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini you are describing the inherent parameters of a single-member district, winner-take-all election. the people in the losing electoral coalition could only be represented if the district had multiple members assigned by proportional representation

The entire state is the district when there’s only one seat. No lines to draw. No gerrymandering needed. Majority party wins 100% of the House seats. The 35-45% who voted the other way get literally zero representation. That’s exactly what the chart shows for those small blue states. They already did/do what you’re pretending is impossible.

@VANTH0R @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini what?

No the Vermont legislature is not responsible for Vermont having only one district. Federal apportionment based on population sets that. Winner take all still makes it unfair to minority party voters who get zero representation despite their votes. Feigning ignorance of this structural disproportionality is what makes these types of debates idiotic. The my party did nothing wrong at all cost is the same as the other side claiming they are always the victim of unfair maps while ignoring how the system already bakes in the same problem for everyone.

@VANTH0R @RhodeKill74 @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini Is the Vermont legislature responsible for Vermont only having 1 district? If not then I dont see how you can blame Vermont democrats for a lack of republican representation.

I hate politicians taking the map drawing pen back after voters created a permanent independent commission specifically to stop them from doing exactly that. Texas never had that commission to override, their legislature has always drawn the maps. That’s the standard process. Texas never had Democrats claw back reforms with a proposition anyway and called it “voter approved.” So no, I don’t hate “rigging maps.” I hate the side that had the needed reforms and still ditched it when it suited them only because they started losing a shell game they started 200 + years ago. Cope harder!

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini > hates California for "rigging maps" > doesn't hate Texas for "rigging maps" so do you hate rigging maps or not? Californian voters already said "yeah, let's "rig" the maps!"

No and for a good reason Texas voters didn’t vote on a map, because no one does. Voters don’t approve the actual district lines anywhere. The legislature draws the maps. That’s the standard constitutional process in Texas and 49 other states. Well except corrupt California. voters HAD to vote on redistricting reforms (Prop 11/20) in the first place because the legislature was so corrupt they’d been rigging maps for decades.

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini which one that asking for voters, again? because Californian voters know what they're getting into, Gavin Newsom said it plainly: less GOP seats does Abbott asked Texans voters to approve the same?

@Modern_Mechanic @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini None! Your voters were on a reform to reverse a Permanent reform.

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini which map is being voted by the voters, again?

@Modern_Mechanic @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini You are an idiot If you think that was what was relayed.

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini so you agree Texas recent map isn't the will of the voters "Then they voted to override it with Prop 50 anyway" voters overrides it, they choose to Texas didn't ask voters to approve the new map, California does

Exactly. Texas never needed voters to approve a REVERSE on a PERMANENT “reform” taking the pen away from politicians, because their legislature has always drawn the maps. That’s the constitutional process. California voters did create that permanent reform (Prop 11/20) to stop the corruption you’re now defending. Then they voted to override it with Prop 50 anyway. So your big “gotcha” is that the side that had the safeguard still clawed the power back when it suited them. The only people making "excuses" are the Democrats by saying But, bUt, buT ..TeXaS. iT oNlY TeMpoRarY wE proMisE. Only a fool believes Permanent is ok to break when Temporarily at the whim. What's next that's reformed and need to be sidestepped?

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini Prop 50 is approved by voters, Texas never ask for voters approval you refuse to act like this isn't the fact, stop the excuses

California voters already approved the independent commission to stop politicians from rigging maps. Democrats ignored that voter approved reform in 2025 overrode it with Proposition 50 and blamed Texas anyway. Texas never had an independent commission to abandon. I answered your question with facts history numbers and direct comparisons. Stop the excuses. Democrats started this shell game decades ago in California and now pretend they were forced into it.

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini you don't even answer my qeustion one map isn't voted by voters, one map is, yet you just dropped more excuse if you want to whine about percentage, might as well go all out on proportional representative, not excusing one map while hating on the other

@CluckyBanana @realfeel1degree @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini "reciprocal only to counter", is ahistorical bullshit. Democrats have drawn aggressive gerrymanders in states they fully control for decades

@VANTH0R @realfeel1degree @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini Gotta fight fire with fire. If only Republicans gerrymander, Democrats get disenfranchised. Hence why Dem gerrymandering has been reciprocal, only done to counter the Republicans gains

Happy to ban gerrymandering nationally. But why aren't you pushing the blue button in California, NY, Illinois etc.? Dems already run up 100%+ delegations there with zero map tricks, just voter geography. Or does the ban only matter when it's not helping your side? Or will this just have to hit the Supreme Court as well, like the chunk of racism Republicans finally ended yesterday?

@VANTH0R @realfeel1degree @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini But the same doesn't apply to gerrymandering? Why can't you just agree that gerrymandering should be banned nationally?

@realfeel1degree @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini The racist chapters of U.S. history (slavery, Jim Crow segregation, disenfranchisement, lynchings, etc.) are national history, not a hot potato one modern political party gets to "own" while the other claims a clean slate.

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini no way is this actually a conservative who admits to the party switch ?? "direct ancestors" from which party created jim crow laws?

Throwing questions like a toddler isn’t debating or countering my facts with a valid point or argument but i get it when facts are involved democrats hate cleaning up their own mess. I dropped facts, numbers, history, and direct comparisons. You answers exactly zero of them and pivot to “do Texans get to vote on the new map?” That's not the gotcha you think it is. It’s deflection 101. For the record the "voters approved it" line only works if you pretend the independent commission wasn't the actual voter approved reform they were supposed to follow.

@VANTH0R @lilsaintjeff69 @unexpectedmuzic @ZacharyDonnini do Texans get to vote on the new map?