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@alexthird95 @Kaiden_L_H apparently his parents did

@Kaiden_L_H Thats actually a good question

how did he kill himself and post a video at the same time

@6_skitt @AwesomeRTC I dont know if he actually attempted but his parents did remove the vid

@VibeTurtle123 @AwesomeRTC If you’re calling me idiotic, think again. Read everything then come back.

ZEAL IS ALIVE?

@ATrampolin4251 @MaricCraft hmm true maybe its just the cope thats blocking my view I really dont want this to have occurred but it does seem so I wish the best for ren and i hope she gets better

@VibeTurtle123 @MaricCraft He clearly knew what he was doing was wrong at the beginning, since he made that joke about how he cant wait for the google doc to come out, and he forced himself on her. Maybe he did fall for the fawning later tho, but she wasnt fawning when the actual rape occured

Genuinely FUCK Zeal and his family There is no way she found out what happened and STILL sides with him. I’m sorry Zeal’s mom, YOUR SON SEXUALLY ASSAULTED SOMEONE AND TRIED TO TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT. YOU ARE JUST AS BAD FOR SUPPORTING HIM IN THIS, MA’AM, IDGAF IF HES YOIR SON

@ATrampolin4251 @MaricCraft ive been looking into what zeals perspective couldve been and I think that he just assumed her fawning was consent as he stated this was his first sexual experience so he couldve thought it was consent(im just trying to make sense of what both sides thought)

@MaricCraft I hope they dont actually take this to court bc i fear the court will side with zeal, esp since she was fawning and saying she liked it. Courts are biased against rape victims

@Thebestwiner @lokizs_ pretty sure his parents took it down but u can find it archived

@lokizs_ WHERE IS THIS VIDEO POSTED

Here's a follow up, this isn't just the second time he states many times through out the video that he doesn't know why he's being accused and he doesn't know why she was doing this to him. Once again not defending Zeal but like... fuck #Pressure #Roblox

@Giovirtual79 @lokizs_ zeal already wasnt the most stable person alive as seen with his crashouts over the past two years I think its reasonable to asume that he just cracked under all the hate especially with the amount of people wishing him death(myself included) I see why he would attempt

@lokizs_ Not only that, but he is specifically going against the wishes of Ren. If he wasn't guilty, then he wouldn't have done this and either took accountability or clear his name. Though, I guess it doesn't matter at this point now

@wubberwub @MoonyPie22 @lokizs_ thing is for him it might've felt consensual you can clearly see that through rens dc messages she seemed to consent even if it was fawning zeal couldve not picked that up and assumed she was with him on this(im not trying to defend him but im trying to find reason behind it)

@MoonyPie22 @lokizs_ Yeah if it’s non consensual?

@Ivandrewgays @AwesomeRTC he never lied he did attempt just failed

@AwesomeRTC No one is surprised someone dox him pls

@BoiBrubba @AwesomeRTC ah yes lets harass his mother for no apparent reason

@AwesomeRTC Add. Spam. Slur. Harass

@6_skitt @AwesomeRTC idiot he did attempt his parents removed the vid hes hospitalized

@AwesomeRTC He never perished himself. He lied about it then proceeded to remove the video. It’s not the right way to handle falsifying death. He’s in the wrong in so many ways.

@DeviVx5 @metalheadluci @lokizs_ The thing is how would zeal know if this is the case how would you blame him for thinking she meant yes that’s what’s confusing me with that

@metalheadluci @lokizs_ gen question btw, what if ren consented cuz she's scared and didn't want to disappoint zeal or smth? like "yes" doesn't always mean "yes"

I'm not defending Zeal what so ever (there is a fuck ton of proof against him) and as I myself am a victim of sexual assault but I legitimately can't tell if it's just him lying to clear his name or he is genuinely breaking down cause there is something more here we aren't seeing

@axeman32163271 @HelloItsVG That crying does seem very real I really don’t know what to believe anymore

@HelloItsVG I archived it archive.org/details/suicid…

Here is Zeal’s side of the story: Zeal just posted a video (1h33m) responding to Ren's document. This is extremely serious, he is in crisis. Reportedly in the hospital right now… >I watched the entire video and here is a summary of his side: He claims three key things were left out of Ren's document: 1. After he comforted Ren while she was crying in the hotel room, Ren asked to kiss him first. He interpreted this as mutual consent. This was not included in the document. 2. Ren claimed she looked up that lube was needed on her own. >Zeal says Ren actually told a friend about their encounter (against his wishes), and that friend suggested it. >He couldn't go buy it because he was already headed to a pre-scheduled meeting. >Ren confirmed this to him that night. 3. The message Ren says pushed her to attempt >Zeal says he found out Ren had told SIX people about their intimate encounter after he specifically asked her not to. >He got angry and stopped answering her calls. >He says Ren did not disclose what he actually said in the document. >He says this was his first ever romantic and s*xual experience. >He describes himself as awkward, embarrassed, and overwhelmed, not malicious. >He says he cut Ren off not to be cruel, but because she was hostile to his team members at RDC and had repeatedly broken his trust by sharing private details. >He says by the time he started writing a counter-document, every voice actor, teammate, and close friend had already left him, some telling him to k*ll himself. >He felt a written response was pointless because nobody would wait to read it. >He ran off after their first night because he was embarrassed he couldn’t perform well. >He avoided eye contact at RDC out of embarrassment, not malice. >He cut Ren off because she was cruel to his teammates and tried to use alcohol to s*xually coerce one of them. >He individually names and apologizes to dozens of team members, programmers, modelers, voice actors, musicians, writers, and artists. >He also mentions owing multiple people payments he won’t be around to fulfill. >He repeatedly says he’s terrified, doesn’t want to d*e, had big plans for the game, but sees no path forward. >No job experience outside Roblox, everyone gone, no point defending himself. >He tells Ren it’s not her fault and begs her not to feel guilty. > He says September 4th was the best day of his life and he still loves her. >He is currently reported to be in the hospital. Please do not harass anyone involved. >Ending life is never a good solution… please continue to help both of them with this situation But this might be the darkest moment in the history of Roblox….

@HelloItsVG I think I’m gonna wait to pick sides now cause either side CAN be a victim even though currently it’s pointing to ren being the victim and I wish her the best

@BannedBuckets @HelloItsVG We aren’t that bright are we they never picked a side only summarized💔

@HelloItsVG Right, help and support the rapist. Thats soooo woke of you. Wow! Yeah let me just care about a rapist durrr. Support Ren, not some loser Rapist who cant even respect their victims wishes after the assault. The only reason im hoping he survives is because thats what Ren wants.

@DemihumanCero @HelloItsVG U Stupid or smth he’s just summarizing💔

@therobloxfucker Not to say that this ain’t right but ren did say in the doc that she just wants to spread awareness not to kill the game

@Abigail_Nitro its such a nothing burger response he didnt try to disprove anything

zeal just posted this btw, click on image for the full thing

@K1ngF1shy @SieiQ_BRAINROT yea already agreed with this in another comment if these alligations are true(I believe so) the game should die and zeal should be locked up

@VibeTurtle123 @SieiQ_BRAINROT Let the game die most of the developers knew what happened to Ren and didn’t do anything

Pressure is in the point of no return.Gianni just quit the game. Finally

@memez860 @SieiQ_BRAINROT yea I realized its for the best

@VibeTurtle123 @SieiQ_BRAINROT Dude I think it’s best to let pressure die

@greenrayfr @SieiQ_BRAINROT if its for the sake of helping ren recover its for the best even if it hurts a big part of the community

@VibeTurtle123 @SieiQ_BRAINROT EVERY developer knew. The coders knew. The modelers knew. The staff knew. The composers knew. Everybody knew. There's no saving the game.