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Katılım Ağustos 2025
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Tolgarkn Yeah that’s a good point plus even a generalized agent won’t effectively test unique or innovative takes on UI/UX. I guess the best thing to do now is shrink the amount of assumptions your tests are relying on as much as possible an to tune the tests as the products grows.
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Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI
Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI@Tolgarkn·
Yeah, that would be a natural direction. If agents are trained on large-scale browsing patterns, they could approximate a kind of “baseline user behavior” before real traffic even exists. But I wonder if that introduces another layer of risk: you’re no longer just modeling users, you’re modeling aggregated assumptions about users. Which might standardize behavior… but also hide edge cases that actually matter. Feels like a tradeoff between predictability and discovery.
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
Had a thought about the iteration loop using AI. Automated systems make a lot of sense to me. However they still don’t address the same problem as TDD. What if your system is fundamentally flawed? We have leaned too far into the idea of hands off automation in development.
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Tolgarkn Agreed… I wonder if eventually we’ll have browsing agents that have been trained on common browsing patterns from Google/other browsers data. Would be an interesting way to try and standardize the user behavior to expect as a dev before A/B testing. Gemini has to be cooking.
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Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI
Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI@Tolgarkn·
@WebWrld8 That makes sense. But in dev, the patterns aren’t stable yet. So it’s less about labeling behavior… and more about guiding what the system converges toward. Feels like an open problem.
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Tolgarkn Yes! Normally I’d say something like Posthog that can use exiting user behavior to inform “common/good” vs “outlier/bad” behavior. Not sure how that looks in dev tho.
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Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI
Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI@Tolgarkn·
That’s a solid direction. Agent-driven user simulation starts to create a kind of “living test layer” that’s much closer to reality than static tests. But it also raises another layer: who defines what “good behavior” actually looks like in those scenarios? Because once systems start exploring all possible paths, anchoring them to meaningful outcomes becomes the harder problem. Feels like we’re moving from testing systems… to designing what they should converge toward.
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Tocelot So much untapped potential with fantasy novels and series. Red rising, stormlight archives, wheel of time, Black Company.. Such rich and beautiful worlds/stories that are just too daunting to take on by trad dev studios.
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Jon Lai
Jon Lai@Tocelot·
@WebWrld8 yes exactly. the more niche the IP the less it translates well to design by committee within a big company What genres / IPs would you love to see more indie games created?
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
I’m an extremely bullish on indie game development and vibe coding becoming more seamless. There’s enough talent that games should be built BY and FOR their specific niche audience. I love Malazan - I don’t need a Triple A game. Just something to bring it to life.
Jon Lai@Tocelot

Creation is play. That’s been the core loop in Minecraft, civilization, stardew valley, countless other great games The only difference now is that you use English as the programming language :)

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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Tolgarkn To use web dev as an example, blurring the lines between tests and real user testing has been a cool trend. Agent browsers that can click thru and mimic all possible user behavior in real time and record the session for dev review would be a great way to anchor iteration.
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Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI
Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI@Tolgarkn·
Appreciate that. Feels like we’re still missing a reliable way to define “correctness” at the system level, not just at the unit level. TDD works because the scope is clear. With agentic systems, that boundary becomes blurry. Curious how you think about defining “correct” behavior when the system itself keeps evolving.
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Tolgarkn Yes, couldn’t have said that better myself.
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Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI
Tolga Arıkan | IDA Vision AI@Tolgarkn·
That’s a real concern. Automation can amplify iteration, but it can also amplify flawed assumptions. TDD enforces a form of grounding — a constraint on what “correct” means. Without that, feedback loops risk optimizing within a broken frame. So maybe the question isn’t automation vs control… but how we anchor these systems to something that remains stable while everything else iterates.
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Tocelot Yes! A man of culture I see. Also I feel like it’s much easier to trust a product built by its own community to have all the details down and faithful to source material. So many devs would embrace indie if they could just have stable income doing so.
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Jon Lai
Jon Lai@Tocelot·
@WebWrld8 Book of the fallen! What a rich world, totally dense and niche but absolutely perfect example of building games for niche communities I’m also a fan of alternative military history, steampunk, lovecraftian, etc - just think of the possibilities
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
AI tools should be used to blur the line between an automated system review and your actual time working. Parallel, local work WHILE you work is far more powerful than passive automations while you are not actively working and checking things as they happen.
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Brandon64249614 Not sure how related this is to mimicking self-awareness but the level of hallucination these models still do really concerns me. It seems to have infected the tech side of X with slop media.
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Brandon Mcclain
Brandon Mcclain@Brandon64249614·
@WebWrld8 Yep if you look at it some of my other videos I was working with llm's way before they were as popular as they are today now my research primarily is on understanding random choice effects to mimic self-awareness.
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
If you haven’t checked out Googles AI studio you are missing out. Brings a lot of the same tools that Replit gives you with the ease of accessing your existing products in the Google ecosystem. Love the segmentation of Grounding, Design Iteration(stitch) and Build.
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You can now build full-stack, production-ready apps with @GoogleAIStudio right in your browser! ✨ To celebrate, let's build a card vault with @stripe and @supabase 💳🔒

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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@Brandon64249614 Haha it really went from fun science experiments to industry shaping tech
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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@proverbs_14_23 @megha_lilly I’m not the one claiming the US is going parabolic. We have plenty of our own problems but demographics are not nearly the same level of issue here than China. Theres nothing more fundamental to a country than having enough people to maintain it.
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Richard “Beebo” Russell
Richard “Beebo” Russell@proverbs_14_23·
@WebWrld8 @megha_lilly The demographics thing is also probably a cope. We’re going backwards ourselves and masking it by importing millions of third worlders who then pillage our societies. It’s a small consolation but we mustn’t throw stones while in glass houses.
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Megha
Megha@megha_lilly·
The West doesn’t like to hear this but the locus of power, wealth and success seriously seems to be shifting. You can either put your head in the sand about this or you can fix your economies and stop taxing your young people to death about this.
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✨🇨🇳 Many young Chinese people post online videos showing their homes before and after purchase and renovation. China currently has the highest rate of homeownership among young people in the world.

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WebWrld@WebWrld8·
@proverbs_14_23 @megha_lilly What good are any of these things you mentioned? Do you understand the trade offs of how labor is managed to build these things? Are their demographics going parabolic (yes in the wrong direction)?
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Richard “Beebo” Russell
Richard “Beebo” Russell@proverbs_14_23·
Virtually every chart in China shows it going parabolic like the USA did during its golden years. The tallest bridge, longest bridge, the biggest dam, the most reactors, the most concrete, the fastest car, the biggest factory, the most solar. Even weird stuff like the longest indoor ski hill, they’ve broken their own record like 3 times in a row. They have 230x shipbuilding capacity, 1000x drone building, 8x solar capacity etc etc etc. Stuff like last mile drone delivery for online orders, something we’ve been promised to a decade, is already a 10 billion dollar industry there. As the most patriotic American on earth, when I hear fellow Americans bring up “GDP” or “rural living standards” all I hear is pure cope. We are going backwards and they are going forwards.
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