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@StillTheKnudson So would have been better to just not catch it and walk off the field? Dude tried something as a last ditch effort. That’s better than nothing… who cares if it had a .001 percent chance of working. Fight to the end.
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More early RISP failure for this team. Cal and Julio awful at bats #Mariners
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@CriddleBenjamin One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen… and I like Kyle. Look up Pascal Siakam… dude hardly touched a basketball until he was in college. Easy to cherry pick one off cases.
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Agree or disagree with this take on multi sport athletics?

Kyle Collinsworth@collinsworth55
I’m pro kids playing lots of sports but football is the sport where playing multiple sports helps the most. Football isn’t a skilled sport. It’s more about being an athlete and strong. Football players playing basketball helps them. Basketball players playing football does not.
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@collinsworth55 @CriddleBenjamin Kyle… like your stuff… this is not the flex I think you’re trying to make here though.
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@pacificcardsco @CardPurchaser More attention needs to be paid to a business who is selling their product at market price? Huh?! This is a wild take.
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I think more attention needs to be paid that Lids, a Fanatics-owned retailer, is selling at secondary market prices.
Fanatics is holding back inventory from Topps, distributors, and big box retailers that would be sold at MSRP to sell direct to you at full market @CardPurchaser
Misha Wines@MishaWines97
$650 for these at lids 😂. No business being that expensive.
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@baseball_cards Anybody complaining about what they get out of a box should not be buying boxes. Go buy singles. But they won’t because they like to gamble and get mad when the gamble doesn’t pay. Silliness everywhere
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You buy a box of cards that guarantees one type of hit or another. It's not there. You tell the company they forgot your guaranteed hit. They send you one. It's not good enough for you. How dare they!
This is where we are at as a hobby. This is the entitlement we are surrounded by. In one corner we have people collecting cards and having fun. In the other corner, we have people telling a private business how to price their product and people like this person complaining about getting exactly what they paid for.
If you want to collect cards, you can. We have NEVER made the rules. We have played by the rules that were set. This isn't going to change.
I B@ibwright00
@CardPurchaser to @Topps is garbage lol. I bought a hobby box with no auto or relic. These folks have the nerve a week later to send me a replacement card. They have some nerve at that company to have no qc and replace it with a 2 dollar card.
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@baseball_cards @MishaWines97 Everybody complaining now about Bowman prices for basketball while hoops is just sitting on the shelves. It’s hilarious.
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@WaxMetrix @xShumpman All great points! Thanks for the dialogue on this! I picked up a case of blasters and megas and gonna hold sealed for a while. Will be interesting to see how it plays out!
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I understand I didn't really give the checklist much attention, and that's by design. I mean, we all know the rookie checklist is good, but in basketball, the NIL stuff is a huge wildcard. In baseball, the 1st Bowman stuff has a pedigree and will always rival a player's most expensive stuff. But even though the NIL checklist seems to be pretty epic, especially with the addition of the Boozer bros, it remains to be seen whether it will truly gain traction with collectors.
There was a set a few years ago, I believe Inception, that had early NIL autos of both Wemby and Caitlin...it seemed like people were pulling at least one of them per case...and the stuff is still very affordable. Granted, it wasn't anything Bowman, or Chrome for that matter, but with those names, one would assume prices would be outlandish.
It will be very interesting to see if the NIL portion of this set carries any weight. I hope it does. Bowman 1st stuff needs to carry value in more sports than just baseball.
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2025/26 Bowman Basketball Analysis & Deep Dive
Bowman explodes back on to the basketball scene for the first time since 2009. On the surface, you’ll recognize some familiar Bowman DNA. If you’ve been ripping Bowman flagship baseball over the past several years, you’ll feel somewhat at home. But once you start peeling back layers, this thing gets more complex in a hurry and will keep even the most seasoned Bowman hype men on their toes.
The dynamics are a mashup of Chrome, Paper, Pro, & NIL names, all thrown together in one big happy product, but all kept distinctly separate. This one will need some updating once live data starts rolling in. That said, there's more than enough here to give collectors some guidance on where value might live when Bowman drops on Wednesday, April 22.
So let's crack this thing open and see what we're working with. Welcome to 2025/26 Bowman Basketball.
The basics:
Pre-orders went up on March 24th at $340/Hobby, $600/Jumbo, $60/Mega, and $30/Value Box. These will likely be a touch higher on drop day, but these are the prices I will go off of for now.
Total cards in the product:
111,821,248
It makes sense to compare to it's closest comp, 2025 Bowman Baseball, which came in at 152,262,136 total cards. This represents 26.6% less production than the most recent Bowman baseball flagship.
Total Base production:
98,066,458
Here is the biggest cloudy area at this time. Though I can calculate pretty specifically how much base is produced in total, there is not enough data available for me to break that down further into Chrome vs Paper or Pro vs NIL names. That will have to wait until we see live rips.
I can tell you that base makes up 87.7% of the product, which is a noticeable drop from Bowman baseball (92.5%). That shift comes from Topps leaning hard into the “more parallels is better” philosophy.
Bowman NBA checks in at 6,682,114 total parallels compared to 2,969,356 in 2025 Bowman MLB, a 125% increase- more than double the parallels on a significantly smaller product overall. Though I’m not ready to call that good or bad just yet. The insertion of more parallels doesn't automatically improve or ruin a product. It’s always case by case.
Total production by format and it's comparison to the same SKU in 2025 Bowman Baseball:
Hobby- 108,312 boxes (9,026 cases) <-8.2%>
Jumbo- 63,856 boxes (7,982 cases) <-5.2%>
Breaker's Delight- 25,000 boxes (4,167 cases) <-20.6%>
Value- 980,680 boxes (24,517 cases) <-10.5%>
Mega- 388,333 boxes (19,417 cases) <-35.3%>
Bulk packs- 50,000
Overall, format production is fairly in line with 2025 Bowman Baseball, with the biggest difference showing up in Mega box output.
On the surface, that would suggest availability should mirror what we saw with Bowman MLB. But the real variable here is demand. I expect basketball demand to outpace baseball, so even with somewhat similar print runs, this could be tougher to find and may not sit on shelves very long.
If you want Bowman NBA and you see it in the wild, it’s probably worth grabbing. It may not be there next time. That said, let’s not get carried away. This isn’t Chrome NBA or NFL-level frenzy. Not even close.
Calculated Hit Rates:
Hobby- 2 Autos, 8 parallels, 10 inserts, 3.4 numbered cards
Jumbo- 4 Autos, 13.2 parallels, 17.5 inserts, 6 numbered cards
Breaker's- 3 Autos, 3.4 parallels, 1 insert, 2.6 numbered cards
Value- 1 auto per 8.6 boxes (4.65/case), 2 parallels, 4 inserts, 1 # card per 2.7 boxes
Mega- 1 auto per 4.7 boxes, 7.4 parallels, 1 insert, 1.4 # cards
Bulk- 1 auto per 12.2 packs, 0.5 parallels/pack, 1.5 inserts/pack, 1 # card per 3 packs
Format highlights:
1) Frustratingly, the shrinkflation is real with this product. I suspect it's a slightly different animal from baseball, so we can't really expect it to have the same box dynamics. But it sure would be nice if they weren't smaller.
Hobby boxes have changed from 24 packs of 8 cards to 20 packs of 8. Also, Jumbo boxes have changed from 12 packs of 28 to 12 packs of 24. And we couldn't keep Value Boxes immune to the changes. They shrank from 6 packs of 12 to 6 packs of 10.
2) Mega box dynamics have also changed from the norm. They're not 4 or 5 base packs and 2 Mojo packs. The Mojo parallels look to be dispersed throughout all 6 packs of the box at a rate of 1 per pack. So a Mega box should yield 6 Mojo parallels rather than the 10 we have come to expect. I suspect it's pretty obvious why this change was made.
3) Though they didn't technically add any new parallel colors to the Mojos this round (there are still 15 parallels of Mojo Refractors), I believe this is far too many for the Megas to absorb cleanly and they will feel just as watered down as they have in recent iterations.
Interestingly, their one saving grace is autos are easier than they were in Bowman MLB Megas. Total Mojo autos in NBA is 82,335. Total for MLB Megas was 83,924. Which means a very similar number of autos inserted into 35% fewer boxes, bringing the auto hit rate down from 1 per 7.15 boxes in baseball to 1 per 4.72 boxes in basketball. This is a welcome change, but I don't think it will be enough to call the Megas a good value at $60. 1.4 high serial numbered parallels per box and an auto in every 5th box isn't going to move the dial significantly.
4) That leads me to the biggest format question mark...
Bulk packs. This is not a new format by any means. We often find Bulk packs listed on the odds, and we find that they eventually show up as some mixed pack or super box format, or possibly a gravity feed box with loose packs for purchase. It's hard to tell exactly, but when we see an odd format of Bowman Basketball show up in stores, we will know. These look to have something like 14 cards/pack and could possibly be stand-alone but could also be bundled in with another product.
Now, this is important because usually when we see bulk packs they're just filler and not actually a viable format that can compete with the usual suspects in hit density. However, that is not the case this time. In fact, Bulk packs look to be the strongest format for all the variants possible to pull from them. Granted, you can't pull everything from them. However, almost everything that can be pulled from a Value Box can also be pulled from Bulk packs. This includes many auto subsets and rare inserts like Anime, GPK, and Retrofractors.
Value Map:
These will all be based on the box pricing listed above with one exception. I cannot include Bulk Packs in this list because I can't speculate on their pricing. But in my calculations, I've tried plugging multiple differenct prices in for them and as long as they're $20/pack or less, they are a solid buy and would lead just about every category. If they end up being a bundled product, I suspect pricing will be more like $5-$10/pack. If so, that's even better. But you won't see them on this list for that reason.
$/card
1) Value- 50¢
2) Mega- $1.43
3) Jumbo- $2.08
4) Hobby- $2.13
$/parallel
1) Mega- $8.08
2) Value- $15
3) Hobby- $43.15
4) Jumbo- $45.39
$/Auto
1) Jumbo- $150
2) Hobby- $170
3) Breaker's- $183.33
4) Value- $257.10
$/# Card
1) Mega- $43.17
2) Value- $81.30
3) Jumbo- $100
4) Hobby- $101.49
Best formats:
If you're ripping this product and you don't have a history with Flagship Bowman, I want you to understand that traditionally 71% of the product is essentially worthless paper cards. This is by no means a predominantly Chrome release. There are paper parallels, but they only hold a portion of the value of similar Chrome parallels. And unless you're a die-hard NIL basketball fan, there will likely be a lot of names you don't recognize. Such is Bowman.
Overall the checklist is pretty great with the dynamic NBA rookie class, which will be represented well. There is also a 50-card checklist of Red RCs, of which having the Rookie of the Year will land you a cool $100 in Fanatics cash. I'm pretty sure we can narrow that down to two potential ROY winners, so the rest will just be fluff.
Topps does a great job of spotlighting all the cool & shiny stuff that can come from some of these boxes. And there are some amazing pieces. But you have to understand these boxes are not the exciting rip it may appear if you haven't experienced them before. They can even be, dare I say, boring?
Picking a "best format" is not nearly as cut-and-dry as it usually is. Between Hobby, Jumbo, and Value, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. It’s tough to call any of them a clear winner from a ripping standpoint. In past Bowman releases, plenty of rippers have sworn by the efficiency of Value boxes, but I’m just not seeing it here. Value boxes are worse than the hobby formats almost across the board, it just happens to look better from a “$ per parallel” perspective.
I’m pretty much ruling out Mega Boxes. Unless, by some miracle, the Mojo autos carry the “1st Bowman” designation, that would go a long way toward saving them. But that hasn’t been the case in a long time, and I don’t expect it to change now.
At $340/$600, Hobby and Jumbo are nearly identical in value. Jumbo gets the slight edge for autos since you’re getting twice as many for not quite double the price. Hobby, on the other hand, is a bit better for most of the desirable inserts. An added benefit of going Hobby/Jumbo over retail is the autos will be all Chrome. In Value Boxes, about 40% of the autos will be far more undesirable paper autos. Of the two, it’s tough to pick a true winner because everything is so close, but if I had to lean, I’d go Jumbo with Hobby right behind. I can’t really recommend Value or Megas here.
But I keep coming back to these mysterious Bulk packs. I’m very curious to see how these show up. When they hit the market and you’re looking to rip, I think that’s the play. Hard to fully endorse something without knowing the format details, but I just don’t see a world where these presumably 14-card packs are more than $20 each. If they land in some kind of super box format at $10 per pack or less, it’s a no-brainer.
From a flipping or stashing standpoint, Hobby & Jumbo formats will very likely increase considerably in value. New products have been a feeding frenzy lately. Will these spike like the Chrome releases as of late? I don't see that happening. They will certainly increase, but I'm keeping my expectations tempered. Though I do think it will be worthwhile to snag some Hobby or Jumbo and sit on them for a bit if that's how you hobby. I don't see it being a losing play.
Print runs
Unnumbered Parallels:
Base Chrome Mini-Diamond- ~360 ea
Base Chrome Reptilian- ~6,040 ea
Base Chrome Geometric- ~45 ea
Base Chrome Mojo- ~5,825 ea
Base Chrome Rookie Red RC- ~8,025 ea
Chrome Prospect Mini-Diamond- ~360 ea
Chrome Prospect Reptilian- ~10,800 ea
Chrome Prospect Geometric- ~50 ea
Chrome Prospect Mojo- ~11,650 ea
Unnumbered Inserts:
Talent Tracker (25 card CL)- ~22,470 ea
Talent Tracker Refractor- ~4,025 ea
Talent Tracker Geometric- ~15 ea
Gen Next (25 card CL)- ~22,470 ea
Gen Next Refractor- ~4,025 ea
Gen Next Geometric- ~15 ea
Very Important Prospects (25 card CL)- ~22,470 ea
Very Important Prospects Refractor- ~4,025 ea
Very Important Prospects Geometric- ~15 ea
Bowman Verified (25 card CL)- ~22,470 ea
Bowman Verified Refractor- ~4,025 ea
Bowman Verified Geometric- ~15 ea
ROY Favorites (15 card CL)- ~27,040 ea
ROY Favorites Refractor- ~4,070 ea
ROY Favorites Geometric- ~15 ea
Hobby Stars (15 card CL)- ~27,040 ea
Hoby Stars Refractor- ~4,070 ea
Hobby Stars Geometric- ~15 ea
Young Kings (25 card CL)- ~26,705 ea
Young Kings Refractor- ~4,025 ea
Young Kings Geometric- ~15 ea
Rockstar Rookies (20 card CL)- ~27,120 ea
Rockstar Rookies Refractor- ~4,045 ea
Rockstar Rookies Geometric- ~15 ea
Greatness Loading (25 card CL)- ~26,705 ea
Greatness Loading Refractor- ~4,025 ea
Greatness Loading Geometric- ~15 ea
Base Chrome Etched in Glass Variation- ~360 ea
Chrome Prospect Etched in Glass Variation- ~360 ea
Base Chrome Retrofractor- ~240 ea
Spotlights NBA- ~360 ea
Spotlights NIL- ~360 ea
Anime NBA- ~140 ea
Anime NIL- ~195 ea
Garbage Pail Kids NBA- ~100 ea
Garbage Pail Kids NIL- ~100 ea
Crystalized NBA- ~300 ea
Crystalized NIL- ~300 ea
Mega Rookies (25 card CL)- ~7,170 ea
Mega Prospects (25 card CL)- ~7,170 ea
Unnumbered Autos:
Future Script (25 card CL)- ~110 ea
Buzz Factor (25 card CL)- ~145 ea
Opening Statement Signatures (25 card CL)- ~120 ea
Timeless Touch Signatures (25 card CL)- ~3,260 ea
Base Paper Retail Autos (99 card CL)- ~16 ea (Not a typo)
Base Chrome Autos (98 card CL)- ~915 ea
Base Chrome Auto Refractors- ~275 ea
Base Chrome Auto Geometric- ~65 ea
Paper Prospect Retail Auto (100 card CL)- ~80 ea
Chrome Prospect Auto (99 card CL)- ~780 ea
Base Chrome Auto Mojo (98 card CL)- ~125 ea
Chrome Prospect Auto Mojo (99 card CL)- ~90 ea
#thehobby #SlabSquatchAnalytics #2025BowmanBasketball




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@NEOCards_Comics Were the silver xfractors penny sleeved in the mega boxes they came in?
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@WaxMetrix @xShumpman I agree with you for sure… I just think there is an unknown factor to this where we haven’t seen football or basketball have both current year rookie cards and also bowman 1sts of incoming class. Could get nutty.
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I'm definitely not well versed in the current Men's or Women's NIL classes. Traditionally, interest in the Bowman University stuff hasn't been anywhere near demand of pro products, which is why I am not as high on this product as some of the more recent NBA only stuff. But I've been surprised before. And quite possibly could be surprised about this one as well.
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