@AdonaiOnGaia Why is the contrail curved upwards?
Pretty obvious that image has been modified to hide the horizon curve now isn’t it.
Just more dishonesty from flat earthers. 🤷♂️
Viewed from above the curve in the controls is obvious
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPIsZQ…
The horizon is just three miles away, the angle down to the horizon is the same in any direction. There is only one degree of curve in 69 miles. Why do you think Curve should be visible here? Please explain.
You need to be much higher. This will explain if you still don't get it.
youtube.com/watch?v=aMY9Vd…
You seem afraid to answer this.
Is the axis of rotation of the sky vertical? Yes or no?
You claim an offset parallel axis will eliminate field rotation. That is wrong so let’s break it down for you.
Establish the direction of the rotating axis of the sky first. Is it vertical? Yes or no?
@Wolverine0744@MrJonesKustoms@bcjams1962@benwehrman Nice mounts, but bad kinematics. You claim offset causes field rotation. It doesn't.
If the sky operates on local electromagnetic lines, aligning a mount parallel to the local optical axis would track perfectly with zero rotation.
Offset distance does not create twist.
The Sun doesn't "set" - it enters and leaves our perspective as it completes its clockwise-circular path over our flat and stationary Earth.
The Optical Mechanics:
☀️ Refractive Lensing: As the Sun moves further away, the increasing atmospheric density magnifies its image, perfectly compensating for perspective. It stays a constant 0.5 degrees until it hits the threshold of detection. (This is why it stays the exact same size from noon until dusk)
☀️ The Helical Path: The Sun isn’t a distant ball; it’s a localized plasma source moving in a spiral. Inner ring = Northern Summer. Outer ring = Southern Summer.
☀️ The Velocity Shift: To keep a 24-hour day, the Sun actually speeds up as it hits the outer Antarctic ring.
The Sun not a rotating ball; it’s a pressurized electromagnetic vessel.
The Geometric Foundation of the STARS:
✨ The Southern Cross Illusion: The “Southern Pole” isn’t a place; it’s an Optical Convergence Artifact—an aetheric projection caused by the dome’s curvature.
✨ The Upside-Down Moon: Crossing the equator reorients your perspective to the dome’s center. The Moon isn’t “flipping”; you are moving relative to the source.
✨ Density vs. Gravity: Objects move up or down based on their density differential relative to the medium. No “action-at-a-distance” required.
The system is a self-contained, electromagnetic organism!
[Full credit to HarmonicEarthTheory on IG - legendary flat earth account 🔥]
Ask yourself this question, and resist the instinctive urge to immediately ask google, grok, or any of the other narrative-regurgitating AIs...
Isn't it a little bit strange that compasses strongly cling to something at the north pole, but don't care at all about the south "pole"?
Almost like there is something very unique up north that causes them all to do this...and perhaps it has something to do with why none of us are allowed to go there? 🤔
(and no I don't mean that goofy stick they put in the ground and herd people to as the fake "north pole" for instagram pictures...I mean the ACTUAL north pole that you would find if you were to continue following the compass northward after that...)
@benwehrman You would get really confused if they painted the south pointing needle red instead.
How do you know the compass is not actually pointing to something South and North just happens to be on the opposite side?
Is it because of the red paint you think it only points north?
@Pobby8383 Never cared for Bob, Id like to see the unedited footage from this documentary. Because according to those that worked it, there was a lot of bamboozling that took place in the editing. Gotta be brainwashed to Globe.
You have that backwards. You have to fail at geometry to be a flattie
The equatorial mount proves earth is a globe. Irrefutable tangible proof
But you don’t understand why do you?
There is the geometry fail. Common to every flat earther I have encountered
Then we have flight plans. Not one of you has a clue how to calculate a simple distance on the earth without relying on the globe.
Can you? I ask this only to let people watch you fail.
Calculate the distance between S30E150 and N15W175 without math for a globe. Show your flat earth equation.
You can’t and you know that as well as I do. All you guys have are excuses
Meanwhile 16 year old student pilots can do that one easily with the globe…
Do you comprehend how much of a fail that is for flatties? Laughable.
This might help you.
From an offset position with a rotating sky the trails are ovals (green below)
From exactly the same offset if you rotate the camera instead and keep the sky fixed you get circles (green below)
Same lights in that experiment. Same position of camera relative to the lights. One test rotates the lights (ovals result) and one test rotates the camera (circles result)
The black and white image is actual star trails looking at the south celestial pole. It results in circles.
So which of the two green examples comports to reality? Circles or ovals?
@Wolverine0744@MrJonesKustoms@bcjams1962@benwehrman You claim offset from a parallel axis causes field rotation. If that were true, your own Celestron mounts wouldn't track on a globe because you are offset thousands of miles from the Earth’s core.
Geometry doesn't care about your physical location; parallel is parallel.
I said offset on a flat earth with a rotating sky would cause field rotation.
Not so on a rotating globe
On the globe the mount cancels the effect of rotation.
On a flat earth with an offset parallel axis the stars appear in ovals. A
Single axis of rotation won’t track an oval and won’t eliminate field rotation.
They are not Celestron mounts. Both were Skywatcher mounts. They works just fine on a rotating globe even thousands of miles from the rotating axis
Where they would not work is a flat earth offset from the rotational axis of the sky.
Is that axis vertical? Yes or no?
Do you understand why offset position on a flat earth results in oval star trails but a rotating earth produces circles. What do we see in reality?
Circles.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=LWA1ow…
@ShineABigLight@MrJonesKustoms@bcjams1962@benwehrman You are missing the point completely and don’t understand what field rotation means.
Offset Parallel axes won’t eliminate it on a flat earth at all
Is the rotational axis of the sky vertical? Yes or no?
@Wolverine0744@MrJonesKustoms@bcjams1962@benwehrman 👌 You are confusing pointing angle with frame rotation.
Offset from the axis (translation) only changes the target's vector; it cannot introduce relative angular twist.
If the mount's axis is parallel to the sky's axis and both spin at 15°/hr, field rotation is physically zero.
Are you under the impression you are capable of insulting me? Why?
This is simply another post that shows me you completely failed to understand every aspect of the equatorial mounts Geometry…
But answer the question. On a flat earth is the rotational axis of the sky vertical? Yes or no?
Can you see the corner you painted yourself into yet?