@minxyminx1952 @DrChrisParry So wouldn’t it make sense that it was means tested and we could further support the Pensioners who are living like that better? Rather than a blanket benefit regardless.
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Zach
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@DrChrisParry The basic state pension is still only £180 per week.
The Triple lock is essential.
Few pensioners live in more than a modest home.
Few have lots of savings.
It took 25 years of 30 years work to buy the house.
Savings are earmarked for rainy days, health care & emergencies.
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Pensioners did ‘economic winds’ several times over so that you could get to have a life, drongo.
GB News@GBNEWS
'Pensioners should not be exempt from the economic winds just because they're the most likely to vote.' Jonathan Lis weighs in on the triple lock pension and successive governments' insistance on keeping it. 📺 Freeview 236, Sky 512, Virgin 604
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@jevans17461775 @justaphag6 ‘I’m happy for something to happen that doesn’t affect me at all’ Shock.
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@XZachM @justaphag6 One...I never mentioned agreeing to the triple lock.
Two...I'm happy for means tested pensions for young people who agree to them. People who paid in, not expecting that, shouldn't be means tested.
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Remember that you could cut welfare spending ENTIRELY by 15% if you didn’t give pensions to millionaires.
MTZ@Tobeech
Welfare spending has overtaken tax revenue for the first time in UK history. The Treasury raised £331bn in income tax last year, while the state spent £333bn on welfare.
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@jevans17461775 @justaphag6 Eventually the money will run out. There’s only so long they can paper over the cracks. Either that or as your political power dwindles down you’ll be overruled.
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@BlueBirdUK1 That’s literally the new pension scheme works are forced to offer because nobody under 50 will be getting a state pension.
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The vast majority do, particularly women.
No civilisation only works if those in charge know what they are doing. In Aus, in 91,employee &employer was made to pay into a private pension, now it 11.5% of salary- a generation about to retire with £ , we should be doing this
Zach@XZachM
@BlueBirdUK1 Because civilisation only works when the old do what they can to better the world for when they’ve gone. Not extract every little bit of revenue they can for a vague ‘social contract’ that’s unsustainable. Especially when for a lot of them don’t really need it.
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@BlueBirdUK1 Because civilisation only works when the old do what they can to better the world for when they’ve gone. Not extract every little bit of revenue they can for a vague ‘social contract’ that’s unsustainable. Especially when for a lot of them don’t really need it.
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That’s not the point. But yes I started with 0. Why do older people pay NI for state education 14 years at 15k plus ?
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@BlueBirdUK1 If you were so good at acquiring wealth then you wont mind means testing the pension.
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@BlueBirdUK1 If you were so good at acquiring wealth then you wont mind means testing the pension.
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Pensioners were told - pay into the system, you can get a pension when you retire. It wasn’t easy for people to get on the housing ladder, older people just saved harder, didn’t spend their money on Costa coffee and ikea furniture and they worked more….
Benedict Spence@BenedictSpence
What makes a pensioner more deserving of protection from market forces than, say, a young family?
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@AutumnAcer @RupertLowe10 @RestoreBritain_ Sooner or later you’ll have to accept a dip somewhere. Remigration will mean your triple lock pension is further unsustainable and your house price value will drop. Are you willing to accept that to sort these issues?
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@RupertLowe10 x.com/Tinebobagain/s…
Please read @RupertLowe10 and @RestoreBritain_
Young people are important and need opportunities, but old people are not their enemy - counter to what you seem to be telling us.
Tinebob@Tinebobagain
Remigration solves a lot of problems, one of them being housing. So why are nationalists attacking British pensioners with ferocious hatred, and telling them to downsize instead? Have they forgotten what being a nationalist means, or did they ever really know?
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Owning a home is FAR more difficult for young men and women today than it was for my generation. That’s just a fact.
Average earnings have not kept pace with average house prices - to suggest otherwise is ignorant. The gap has grown at an astronomical rate.
The young have every right to feel pissed off, I’m angry for them.
And I detest this patronising attitude of people my age that we just happened to manage it all so much better through ‘common sense’ and fewer avocados.
There are millions of young Brits who work hard, take care of their money and dedicate themselves - and yes, they are struggling to find a proper home.
They have done nothing wrong. In fact, they’ve done everything right but the system still failed them.
I am ensuring that there is a political party to finally represent them - Restore Britain is that party.
A party that supports the aspirational and committed young British men and women.
Scrapping interest on student loans. Stripping back the power of empire-building planning bureaucrats who cruelly prevent sensible house-building in fair locations. Crushing the overbearing regulations that make building anything so very cumbersome. Overhauling leasehold rules which trap owners with mutating service charges. Ending the vindictive war on landlords to make sustainably renting a proper option. Slashing tax to hand back financial control. Entirely abolishing stamp duty for Brits.
Because we will not tinker with the status quo, we will not conserve it, we will not reform it.
We will fundamentally change how this country operates.
The model must break.
I will make you one promise.
Restore Britain will break it.
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@NLSPURS1 @alexbaynhambd We could do both. That’s what a sensible nation would do. Means testing like everything else is.
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@XZachM @alexbaynhambd Being the largest factor doesn't mean it's not a pittance for many. Mass immigration imposed has destroyed our infrastructure, too many people for too few homes has increased prices to buy & rent & the welfare burden. You can't control ageing, you can control other things though.
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You can downsize to a nice little house in Lowerstoft, release that equity no need for the state pension.
It's moronic both ways...
Sandy Tregent@SandyofSuffolk
You can buy a nice little house like this in Suffolk with a 5% deposit of £6,000. Nationwide, Barclays and others are offering good deals for first time buyers with only a 5% deposit. But then you'd have to forego your gap year in the Far East and Antipodes or your fancy wedding. Poor you. Boo hoo. 🤣
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@Oakely_Dokely @Landeur And while we are on finger pointing duty .. a family with 3 kids will take £300000 out of the system to educate their kids for the next 10 years .
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27% are millionaires, mostly via property, but most have no private pension and rely entirely on the state, which is in deep distress.
This system is going to forcibly correct via collapse, whereby pensioners will sell off their properties at discounted rates (probably to asset managers).
The state pension will either cease to exist or become means tested.
I'm not saying this to be hurtful, this is just the way it's going to go. And if I was a pensioner I'd feel pretty angry that this is coming because I *thought* I had done the right thing for my whole life.
Today's pensioners will soon end up betrayed by the system just like the youth have been already.
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27% of pensioners are millionaires according to ONS wealth surveys.
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@DizzyLizzi80631 @weAreUtdWeAre @mindofprospect @Therichardralph @RupertLowe10 I’ve got on with it, your retirement isn’t going to pay for itself! it’s just funny to watch you look at data which implicitly shows how it was easier than today and still try and say that everybody’s just lazier. Kudos to you.
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@XZachM @weAreUtdWeAre @mindofprospect @Therichardralph @RupertLowe10 No you won’t will you. Unlike you we got on with it. Whilst you sit on Social Media and moan and whine about how hard you have it. Hypocrite much?
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@weAreUtdWeAre @DizzyLizzi80631 @mindofprospect @Therichardralph @RupertLowe10 They’ll never get over the victim complex, there’s no point even trying.
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@DizzyLizzi80631 @mindofprospect @Therichardralph @RupertLowe10 Imagine laughing because you don't understand basic mathematics 😐
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@OldblueAyeAyes @lukerobertblack So dramatic, maybe it could just be means tested and rise normally with inflation.
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@lukerobertblack So you don't want to pay for the people that paid for your entire childhood education and healthcare?
Yeah, the OAPs should just identify as foreign paedos, then you'd double their pensions no doubt.
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“Maybe if you had a job”
Duffy - I am 33. I have had a job since I was 14. Your almost cult-like obsession with Farage changes nothing. The state pension is a benefit paid by general taxation- ie people like me.
I’m very happy to pay it - but there are limits to my generosity.
Duffy 🇬🇧@DuffMeister1965
@lukerobertblack I can show you my contribution for each year in employment on the Government website! Maybe if you had a job you’d know that. If you have a job and don’t know that, you’re a fool!
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@boomer_ish @venompilled @BenedictSpence @LeStyl0 State pensions predicted to have cost 177 billion this year, 55% of the Welfare budget. NI doesn’t in anyway cover what it’s supposed to, it’s not even close.
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@venompilled @BenedictSpence @LeStyl0 No. It isn’t. Funding is a choice.
Total NI receipts (gross, per HMRC): £172.5 billion
• State Pension costs (per DWP): £137.4 billion
More collected than paid.
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What makes a pensioner more deserving of protection from market forces than, say, a young family?
Sophie Corcoran@sophielouisecc
No. I don’t think pensioners should have to sell their houses to retire
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@NLSPURS1 @alexbaynhambd It’s not a pittance though, it’s the largest factor of the bloated welfare budget. What about our social contract? We wont have any state pension, infrastructure, houses to raise children and we have the highest tax burden since WW2. Yet all your generation say is we’re lazy.
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@XZachM @alexbaynhambd You act like pensioners have also stopped paying tax, they haven't, they still contribute as many have for 50years plus.Rather than whine about the pittance pensioners get having fulfilled the social contract they signed up to, blame those responsible, the waste & bloated CS etc
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@NLSPURS1 @alexbaynhambd You act like everybody just stopped paying tax. Our taxes don’t get to do any of that because 334 billion goes towards Welfare spending, of which 177 billion is pensions.
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@alexbaynhambd You can fck off & build your own future. You weasels forget who paid to build the infrastructure of this country, the armed forces, NHS, a hold & hospitals & paid towards the war debt until 2096.
You vile creature
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@Northantis @ZoomerHistorian Saying this when, following the American Revolution, Europe created 5 gigantic, globe spanning empires is crazy.
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@ZoomerHistorian There is a big difference, though: Americans are the descendants of the Europeans that left and built empires. Europeans are the descendants of Europeans who stayed comfy at home. Not exactly the same stock.
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It is easy to forget that you are simply Europeans on another continent, do not let the hubris of Empire lead you into forgetting that. We did the same thing with Europe when we ruled the world, it's silly.
We're all in this together and want the same thing buddy, drop the weird tone and us vs them mentality.
We all love Americans here and want the best for them, people just have very legitimate criticisms about the American Government (past and present), don't take it personally.
Roman Helmet Guy@romanhelmetguy
My genuine advice to the European right (such that it exists) is to lean into the anti-American sentiment. That’s your path to power. You need an ‘oppressor’ to fight against. One that moderate voters already want to hate. And the obvious rhetorical choice is America. Who’s responsible for the European migrant crisis? Not Europeans! It’s those damn Americans who caused chaos in the Middle East and forced you to accept 50M migrants (don’t worry about proving the “forced” part, people will believe it because they want to). Who’s responsible for the European energy crisis? Not Europeans! It’s those damn Americans who pushed climate change and anti-nuclear narratives to deindustrialize Europe and keep it weak and dependent (don’t worry that Russia actually funded your Green parties, it’s more fun to blame America, so people will). What about NATO? Here’s where it gets tricky, so follow along closely: America didn’t create NATO to protect you from the Soviet Union, it created NATO to keep you weak and enslave you. But also, Donald Trump wants to leave NATO because he wants to keep you weak and enslave you. Does that seem like a contradiction? It doesn’t matter. Your voters want to believe both, so they will. Ukraine War? America forced Russia’s hand. Strait of Hormuz? America closed it. Fertility crisis? America psyop’d you into thinking the world was overpopulated. It works for everything. Blame America and watch the communists and Islamists start nodding along. Blame America even harder than they do and watch your rankings shoot up in the polls. Just don’t start believing it yourselves. Never get high on your own supply. A strong, self-confident Europe is good for both Europe and America. So if you ever actually get back to that and stand up and peer out across the wide world for a friend, there across the pond, your old pal America will be waiting.
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@Dothereading @SerderM78082 @Broom_2 @Sargon_of_Akkad It’s so unimportant to you that you’ve been throwing a tantrum about it. Everybody knows that disruptions in oil anywhere causes price spikes because it’s sold on a global market. He’s not just timing his actions for when markets close for no reason. Save the theatrics.
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@XZachM @SerderM78082 @Broom_2 @Sargon_of_Akkad The UNited States imports almost nothing that moves through the Strait of Hormuz. No, really, we don't. And we sure as SHIT don't need iranian Oil. Hell, WE OFFERED TO SELL BRITAIN OIL. Your fundamental ignorance here is extremely telling. You are simply incapable of defending it
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