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This reminds me of a fascinating story I read,of when in the 1970s Daniel Everett,a linguist and Christian went to the Amazon jungle to convert a tribe called the piraha people to Christianity and completely failed for one crazy reason 😂😂 When Daniel Everett arrived with his wife and kids at the remote Pirahã village in the Amazon, His mission was clear…learn their language,translate the New Testament,and convert this isolated hunter gatherer group to Christianity. What he encountered instead was one of the most radical cultural and linguistic worldviews ever documented 😂. From his experience,Everett eventually formalized what he called the “Immediacy of Experience Principle”. What this means in essence is the Pirahã culture and grammar strongly constrain what can be meaningfully discussed or believed…to them,knowledge must be anchored in direct,personal observation or at most in the recent testimony of living people you know. Things that happened long ago,that no one alive has seen,or that exist only in abstract or supernatural realms fall into the category of what they called xibipío (“gone out of experience”). They don’t deny it outrightly.. to them, such things simply carry no weight and are not worth serious talk. This principle shapes everything for them… and is why they have No creation myths or origin storis , No numbers beyond rough quantities like “a few” or “many.” , No recursive embedding in grammar (you can’t easily say “kelvin’s brother’s house” … you say two separate sentences). Their Stories and discourse stay tethered to the here and now. Now Christian theology, by contrast, is built on precisely the kind of claims the Pirahã worldview filters out…A distant creation,Miracles and events from thousands of years ago, A savior no living person has met, Salvation and afterlife described in ancient texts. Everett tried …He told them the story of Jesus..his birth,teachings,death,and resurrection. The Pirahã listened politely,then asked the questions their language and culture demanded… “Have you met this man?” “Did you see him?” “Did your father see him?” When Everett admitted he had not , that these events happened 2,000 years earlier and were known only through a book,the conversation effectively ended 😂. “That’s interesting,” some of them would say, treating the Gospel the same way they treated any other distant tale…as something outside lived experience, therefore irrelevant to how they live and what they believe. Notice It wasn’t hostile rejection(like the one you’d get from the people of the sentinel islands in India). It was epistemological incompatibility. The theology couldn’t even gain traction because their entire system of knowledge validation rejected second hand ancient testimony. Everett kept trying for years. He failed to produce a usable Bible translation. Meanwhile, living among people who were profoundly content, generous, and empirically grounded …with no concept of sin, eternal punishment, or a distant deity. By 1982 he himself started havinv serious doubts about his beliefs and by 1985 he had quietly become an atheist. The man who had come to convert the Pirahã had instead been “converted” by their way of seeing reality.😅 As Everett later wrote and said in interviews, the deepest challenge wasn’t an argument against Christianity. It was living inside a culture where the very criteria for what counts as real knowledge made supernatural historical claims feel as weightless as yesterday’s dream. The Pirahã didn’t need to debate theology. Their language and worldview simply had no slot for it and, in the process, they helped a missionary lose his faith without ever raising their voices.😂 Makes you wonder, what would a Christian say the fate of these people is? Eternal torment? We can all see how that would be problematic. Would they somehow make heaven and get judged by how they live their lives? But That would make the whole Christian message irrelevant. 🙂

Chimpanzees and bonobos have never read the Bible or 10 commandments,never heard of Jesus or Mohamed , but have absolutely no problem showing and displaying clear signs of love , empathy , altruism and fairness among themselves and including members of a different group. If you need the Bible or your religion to be a good person , ch.imp.anzees and bono.bos are better than you.

@Elishabenabuya There is a reason why the most successful religions in the world have some form of afterlife.

@_OKJ__ Are you aware of the favt that there are religions that don’t have an afterlife in their theology? But they definitely do not include the modern forms of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam!

Religion would continue to persist as long as humans are afraid of death and no one completely disproves the existence of the afterlife. It’s that simple.

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Some researchers from the Western University of Ontario Canada found something fascinating in African wildlife. when recordings of lions were played, many animals paused, looked around, and assessed the danger before fleeing. But when recordings of human voices were played, they all scattered and ran immediately. That reaction says something profound about position of humans in the ecology of fear. Lions are dangerous, but predictable. Humans are something else entirely in the animal kingdom. To many animals, we became the prey turn predator species that thinks, tracks, plans, cooperates, and never seemed to stop running. If a lion fails in the first sprint chasing an animal, the danger often passes for the prey.but for the prey , If a human notices you, the danger have actually only just begun. “they can’t run very fast.” “so why are you scared?” “those motherfuckers don’t get tired.” That would have been the prehistoric conversation of our preys. Humans are not built like cheetahs, horses, or antelope in raw speed. We are mediocre sprinters. But evolution gave us a different weapon… endurance and persistence. Long legs, spring like tendons, large buttocks muscles, efficient cooling through sweating(why else do you think we are hairless compared to the other apes), upright posture, and the ability to breathe independently of our movement …all of these made us exceptional long distance runners. While animsls with furs overheat when pushed too long in the sun, humans can keep jogging, tracking, and pressing forward for hours. This is why some scientists argue persistence hunting helped shape our species. Early humans likely exhausted animals over long distances, following them until they collapsed from heat and fatigue. Imagine how terrifying that would seem from the prey’s perspective…. if you fight, you may die fighting; if you hide, these hairless monkeys will track you; if you group together, you will die together; and if you run, you will simply die tired. We did not need the fastest speed when we could weaponize time itself. This is also why I think marathon running may be the most symbolically important sport on Earth. It reenacts one of the traits that Before agriculture, before cities, before machines kept our ancestors alive and helped make us human.,a reminder that our the human specie rose partly through patience, stamina, coordination, and the terrifying ability to keep coming. To much of the ancient animal world, humans would have been remembered as the scary hairless primates that never stopped moving.

@2000s_baby 😂😂

@_OKJ__ That poor mammoth 😭💔

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@_OKJ__ This is quite fascinating

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@_OKJ__ As usual 🤦🏾

Just your average Sunday somewhere in Africa .

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@_OKJ__ 😂😂😂

@OloriKendrick @GestrandetD What has that gotten to do with my previous reply please?

@_OKJ__ @GestrandetD Are you put off by the idea that the only thing that determines entry into heaven is your personal standing with God?

This is why Christianity makes zero sense by the way.

If his relationship was set right before he was murdered , will he not make heaven? That is the relevant question .. not the mental gymnastics you’re doing . For all we know , he died a Christian, got baptised and studied the bible .. under that premise , will he make heaven or not? And you have in fact not demonstrated my strawman!

@_OKJ__ @GestrandetD That's what you observed. It was reported Now how do you prove that his relationship with God was set right before he was killed?

@OloriKendrick @GestrandetD Okay .. it was reported that Jeffery dahmer did this .. he was babtised , gave his life to Christ and was studying the Bible in prison before he was murdered by an inmate so where exactly is the strawman? I’m waiting

@_OKJ__ @GestrandetD Well the answer is simple Believing in God Acknowledging and truly repenting of your sins Having Faith in the Forgiveness of Sins through the sacrifice on the cross Worshipping God truly in spirit and faith

@OloriKendrick @GestrandetD What does it take to make heaven?

@GestrandetD @_OKJ__ The strawman is that you can do all evil and as long as you claim you've repented you'll be in heaven using Jeffrey Dahmer as evidence And you can do all good and as long as you're not believing in God you'll go to hell using Carl sagan

Wild life scientists tho. this is Adrien Deschryver .. who taught his his crew that hold their ground, not flinching and pretending to chew leaves would save them if they were charged by a gorilla .. 😅😅

@Simonymms @hookskat Why did the passage then say “and the lord said to Moses” you fucking dishonest donkey !

@hookskat @_OKJ__ God gave Moses only 10.

Christians should come and explain Leviticus 12:1–5 for us “The Lord said to Moses: Speak to the Israelites and say…If a woman conceives and gives birth to a male child, she shall be unclean for seven days, as during menstruation. On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. She shall then continue in purification for thirty three days; she must not touch anything holy or go into the sanctuary until the days of purification are completed. But if she gives birth to a female child, she shall be unclean for two weeks, as during menstruation, and continue in purification for sixty-six days.” I’m sorry .. but why does Yahweh consider women twice as unclean if they have a female child in contrast to having a male child?