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Why didn’t god inspire men to write a better book than the Bible? As a guide for morality/truth it’s absolute trash.

@YourMomsChurch That was full of spelling errors.… 🫤

@YourMomsChurch I did know that…. It's pretty much atqre knowledge even by pastors. Of course they don't aknowdge that at church. Once you know one fabrication slipped in, it gives reason to be even more skeptical.

What he didn't do was follow her around to remind her every week thstmshe was a forgiven sinner, tell her to go cleanse herself at the temple, or tell her to pray and study the Bible.

@Sabbaer666 @JohnLeFevre @Global_Occupant Where do you live?

@hookskat @JohnLeFevre @Global_Occupant The USA was my childhood dream, all my favorite artists, clothes and other cultural aspects highly influenced my upbringing. I always wanted to visit or even considered moving the us, that dream was gone after Trumps first turn. Now the dream is dead.

The question: Are you proud to be American? For Democrats, "Yes" has fallen from 92% to 36% in a generation. These are sick people.

@pratfall62 That isn't true by the definition in the Bible. It is one who will fool the elect. (gods people) Trump fitsbthat bill in caps. I fit it in lower case, anti-Christian.

@hookskat There are many anti Christ's, millions in fact. They are liberal fascist atheists

How about Anti-Christ?

@ihorace Mark was used to spin the rest of them. Except John…. He was an apologist for what grew out of the story. The "consensus" view is that for roughly 30 to 40 years after Jesus, nothing was written down.

@hookskat What's much later? There's evidence to suggest the gospels were written very early - especially Mark.

If you experience no god when you search for one, why would or should their experiences counter yours?

@marduk_aza @Machi1Nne Okay…. I don't see it that way. A fairy tale is an intentional fantasy written with no claim to be otherwise. The bible is storytelling myths of ancient men.

@hookskat @Machi1Nne Use different words, Miracles intead of magic, Angels instead of fairies, Demons instead of dragons And you have a fairy tale for adults.

How would you respond to someone calling the bible a FairyTale?

@Acts432 All of the “was god silent when”…. How would I know? I never expected an audible voice from heaven. Did they feel his presence when they were being martyred?

I'm sorry, but none of that aligns with Scripture. 1. What is personal experience? How can you tell "divine presence" is lacking? Nothing in Scripture says you must have a "personal experience" with "divine presence." It says, you must believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. It's not a feeling but a choice. It's not a personal experience but an acknowledgement and acceptance of the free gift offered to you by Jesus' sacrifice for you. 2. Prayer meets only silence -- what specific prayers were met by silence? Jesus prayed in the garden of Gethsemane for another way ("take this cup from Me"), yet He then said, "not My will but Your will be done." Was God silent? Was God silent when the believers in Acts prayed for boldness after Peter and John were set free from prison for sharing Jesus? Was God silent when Paul's affliction was not healed? Was God silent when Stephen was stoned to death? Was He silent when James was martyred by King Herod Agrippa 1? No. God was not silent. Nor is He silent when we pray to Him. Many answers we can find in His Word. Other answers we can hope for - some are yes, some are no, some are not right now, some are not that but this instead. And then others we know are ultimately fulfilled beyond our comprehension that speak to eternity not a temporary life. 3. What is this "transformative power" you allude to? Transform what? "of the church fails to manifest in the lives of its members" -- with all due respect, the church is not a building or institution, it is believers. We are the church.

A reasonable unbelief is a natural response…. When personal experience lacks divine presence, prayer meets only silence, and the ‘transformative power' of the church fails to manifest in the lives of its members, skepticism becomes the only logically consistent response.

@Acts432 “It says, you must believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. It's not a feeling but a choice” Belief isn't a choice. You can't choose to believe something you don't believe……

@Acts432 @edenstanwarr Okay…. So Paul was transformed immediately, (provided you believe the story). 180 turn.

@hookskat @edenstanwarr If the way I reply leads you to that, then I also apologize.

@marduk_aza @Machi1Nne No, I think fairy tales are kids stories about magic, fairies and dragons.

@hookskat @Machi1Nne Is that not what many fairy tales are ?

@edenstanwarr @Acts432 Sorry…. I was confused in exactly who I was talking with. Accept my apology.

@hookskat @Acts432 I'm not sure that you have understood my point. My understanding was that you were talking about the LACK of an experience of a divine presence, and that this was part of the grounds for not believing. I am not dismissing that at all.

@Acts432 Why would a loving god create beings that he knew beforehand would disappoint him and his sense of justice would require a vast majority of them would need to be destroyed? This makes no sense to me. I don't see love there.

Ok, thanks. My "Christian belief" as you describe it is simply my belief that Jesus is who He said He is (see John 3). Because of that, it means I spend eternity with Him. Right now, I am spending it with Him in this world yet the next one will be in His presence at all times in a renewed heaven and earth. That's what belief in Christ gets me.

@Acts432 @edenstanwarr I'm sorry…. I just interpret your questions as a means to an end. A way that you can find an error in how I approached my faith.

I'm not seeking to blame anyone. Saying that your post didn't align with Scripture is not blaming you. Asking you to specify answers is not blaming you. I have noticed you go this direction often in our discussions. I'm not sure why. You're an artist, according to your bio. I am not. If I post something about art that has some errors in it and you correct me, I don't assume you are blaming me. I first look to see if I was in error. Or, if I say "this painting is transformative" - you might ask me to define what I mean by transformative - then, when I do, you might disagree with how I see the painting because you might not see it the same way since you are an artist.

@ihorace No…. It was all a hero’s fable written much later. Embellished from storytelling of his followers.

@hookskat So the 4 men who wrote the gospels did what? Collude together to come up with some fanciful story?

@ihorace That story is clearly mythology. I can't imagine it to be anything else.

@hookskat Job felt the same.

@Acts432 All experiences. Paul's was even forced on him by god (supposedly). How many people wouldn't believe if they were struck blind and heard an audible voice? All I asked for was a sense of his presence, and answer to, prayer for assurance and understanding.

1. Paul experienced the Risen Christ in a vision on the road to Damascus to persecute followers of His. His life was transformed because he gave up his life of influence and luxury for one of suffering and even death. 2. The Disciples walked with Jesus while He was on the earth. Each one of them (except for Judas) had their life transformed where they spread the Gospel, faced persecution, imprisonment, beatings, and death for Him. 3. Abram's life was transformed when he followed God's instructions, left his homeland for a place he had never seen before. Left his father behind midway through the journey, rescued his nephew, lost his nephew's wife, fought battles against others, lied about his wife being his sister while in Egypt, slept with his servant (Hagar) because he didn't trust in God's promise, sent his servant (Hagar) and his son (Ishmael) to the wilderness when his son, Isaac, with his wife Sarah was weaned. That's a summary of what each of them experienced.

@jhkrantz I guess I did too….

@hookskat I walked away from mine, too, for a while. Didn't really come back to my parents' faith, created something different. Something my own.

Is belief a feeling of certainty?

@ToddOnHigh_ The fail to see the reasons why…. But that is always the case.

@hookskat The king of loaded questions 🙄 Which “hostility” toward christianity/conservatism, exactly? Why is he so concerned about what “our culture” is doing if christians aren’t supposed to care about what “the world” thinks? Shouldn’t they just be praying for those who mistreat them?

Frank is a social media Pharisee….. Trying to make sure everyone follows his set of rules.