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Mum • Lover of nature and clean, fresh air • Passionate about science • “Without data, you’re just another person with an opinion.”

England, United Kingdom Katılım Ocak 2021
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HANTAVIRUS OUTBREAK 🧵 Following the WHO press briefing, I wanted to compile a thread with the key points. 1/ ISOLATION OF PASSENGERS Concerningly, it seems the WHO are NOT recommending to isolate cruise ship passengers (even high-risk contacts) UNLESS they develop symptoms.
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tern@1goodtern·
This is super important. The UK government are having it both ways again. They spent years denying that Covid was spread through the air. And now they're saying that Hantavirus doesn't spread through the air the way Covid does, as if that's what they said all along. <screams>
Neurological Demon@ConstantineNo1

So hantavirus is different because it isn't transmissible JUST THROUGH THE AIR, unlike COVID, which spreads in the air in a bus or on a train? But the COVID Inquiry was told COVID spreads by droplet and contact? @GOVUK urged caution and to rely on @UKHSA so what's changed now?

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Alina Chan@Ayjchan·
A press conference in France mentioned that 3 teenagers were among those exposed to an infected cruise passenger on a 6.5h flight to Johannesburg. The severity of disease caused by hantavirus is similar in children and adults.
Nicolas Berrod@nicolasberrod

"Des enfants" font partie des huit cas contact ayant pris le même vol Sainte-Hélène->Johannesburg que la Néerlandaise décédée, indique Stéphanie Rist. En cas d'infection, "c’est la même maladie et malheureusement la même mortalité" que chez les adultes, dit Xavier Lescure. 1/2

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matei@_mateic·
@_CatintheHat Because absolutely nobody gives a shit, and this will not become a coordinated effort to solve the problem, Cat. Tedros will continue to shill his accent in a slow, question-deflecting manner until 1/3rd of the audience eventually “tunes out”
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34 passengers left the MV Hondius on 24 April, at the same time as the infected Dutch woman. She was already symptomatic when she disembarked & died 2 days later. They may have shared transport with her, stood in queues at the airport with her… Why aren’t they being isolated?
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HANTAVIRUS OUTBREAK In today’s press briefing, Dr Tedros was asked about the protocol for passengers who left the ship 2.5 weeks ago, at the same time as the infected Dutch woman. With a typical incubation period of 2-6 wks, this is a glaring hole in the containment strategy…

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Barry Hunt
Barry Hunt@BarryHunt008·
Last week, I thought the pandemic potential for ANDV was small Infinitesimally small Less than 1%
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Lazarus Long@LazarusLong13·
.and that study. 👇 Before moving on, very interestingly @mdc_martinus, of the total 130, "30 cases occurred in clusters, including ten previously reported to be highly suspicious of person-to-person transmission, 8 close household contact and two health care workers."
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Lazarus Long@LazarusLong13·
In the quote tweet are known cells that are infected by Andes virus. Clara and goblet cells - results in respiratory aerosols embedded with Andes virus. Let's do another fluid that has a lot of Andes virus in it, that results in aerosols. Gingival Crevicular Fluid (GCF). 🧵
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Lazarus Long@LazarusLong13

This is an excellent find - and Maarten nailed pointing out that the found biological detail SUPPORT Andes Airborne transmission. Warning: "We are aware that detection of ANDV antigens in particular cell types does not necessarily indicate viral infection or replication. "

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Lazarus Long@LazarusLong13·
This is an excellent find - and Maarten nailed pointing out that the found biological detail SUPPORT Andes Airborne transmission. Warning: "We are aware that detection of ANDV antigens in particular cell types does not necessarily indicate viral infection or replication. "
Maarten De Cock@mdc_martinus

A 2020 study provides biological details supporting airborne transmission of the Andes virus . It shows that viral particles replicate in lung alveolar cells and macrophages that reach the airways, which then can be exhaled as a "deadly bullet for ANDV transmission."

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Ian M Mackay, PhD (he/him)
Version 3. I've extended the orange-shaded area to cover the full 45 days (WHO number) and indicated each week since the date post-onset of Case 1's symptoms (dpo). May 10th was a day when 2 people became symptomatic and also tested positive. I've used green
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It’s also worth noting that the UK classify the Andes Virus (hantavirus) as an AIRBORNE High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID). Please note the key word there: AIRBORNE. gov.uk/guidance/high-…
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The 2018 Andes Virus ‘Superspreader’ study also states that: “On the basis of both the epidemiologic and genomic investigations of person-to-person transmission events, it appears that inhalation of droplets or *aerosolised virions* may have been the routes of infection.”
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Importantly, detailed investigations into this Andes Virus outbreak in Argentina in 2018 clearly revealed that multiple transmissions had taken place WITHOUT CLOSE CONTACT. The table below summarises the circumstances of these transmissions ⬇️
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This is nice & reassuring, but is it actually supported by the evidence? In 2018, there was a major Andes Virus outbreak in Argentina which led to 34 cases & 11 deaths. The outbreak had an R0 of 2.1 before strict quarantine measures were enforced. nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…
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HANTAVIRUS OUTBREAK In today’s press briefing, Dr Tedros was asked about the protocol for passengers who left the ship 2.5 weeks ago, at the same time as the infected Dutch woman. With a typical incubation period of 2-6 wks, this is a glaring hole in the containment strategy…
Cat in the Hat 🐈‍⬛ 🎩 🇬🇧@_CatintheHat

The infected Dutch woman was symptomatic & almost certainly infectious for several days before she left the ship. Many passengers spent time comforting her after the death of her tragic husband on 11 April (initially thought to be from natural causes)… itv.com/news/2026-05-0…

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It’s easy to get complacent with a virus that has a LONG incubation period (up to 8 wks). The waves come in waves. And they can have a BIG gap between them. In the 2018 Andes Virus outbreak, there were 4 waves with a lull between each before control measures halted the spread.
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Neil Stone@DrNeilStone

No one who was not on the ship has been infected with Hantavirus Not a single one This is not going to be a pandemic. Not even close.

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NBC News@NBCNews·
It has been assumed that hantavirus is contagious only if someone is in close contact with someone who’s having symptoms. Some experts now suggest it’s possible it may be more contagious than thought. nbcnews.com/health/health-…
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@DrNeilStone No, absolutely not. It’s just that many of us have experienced first hand the consequences of getting it wrong at the start… …and are hoping to AVOID that this time with sensible public health measures that don’t give false platitudes & cover-up inconvenient truths.
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Cat in the Hat 🐈‍⬛ 🎩 🇬🇧@_CatintheHat

HANTAVIRUS OUTBREAK 🧵 Following the WHO press briefing, I wanted to compile a thread with the key points. 1/ ISOLATION OF PASSENGERS Concerningly, it seems the WHO are NOT recommending to isolate cruise ship passengers (even high-risk contacts) UNLESS they develop symptoms.

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Neil Stone
Neil Stone@DrNeilStone·
Many people WANT Hantavirus to be a new pandemic so they can just pivot their grift from Covid to that - whether it's the doom mongers or the anti vaxxers
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