Giulia ☕

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Giulia ☕

Giulia ☕

@aSweetEspresso

Katılım Şubat 2012
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar If Tommy Robinson were made PM, which I know is just hypothetical, how do you suppose he would 'stop' Islam? It would mean no one could practice it in this country hence they would have to all leave, would they not? Or are you suggesting Robinson would do something different?
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Wut-Wut Gizmo@lecso1991·
@aSweetEspresso @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar They didnt deport them. They were killed… I dont know why youre pushing this “get rid off all muslims” narrative despite nothing supporting it. Tommy Robinson never said anything of the sort and the diversity at the rally is proof of it.
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Mukhtar
Mukhtar@I_amMukhtar·
Washed-up actor Tamer Hassan spoke at Tommy Robinson’s march and has endorsed Ant Middleton as the next Mayor of London. He says he’s fed up with the “establishment trying to divide us,” yet he’s speaking at a far-right march organised to do exactly that.
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar Neither. The growing influence on US policy? Quite surprised to see someone say this, even those on the right in the US say the same and are glad of it. See the Heritage Foundation and who from them has been placed into the high echelons of US govt.
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Wut-Wut Gizmo@lecso1991·
@aSweetEspresso @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar How exactly can we see growing Christian influence on the US government’s policies? An example perhaps? Christianity peacfully separated from the state but I guess in your case it boils down to Christianity or Islam taking over so… which one would you prefer?
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar So, you wan to be as bad as the very hard-line religious dictators in Iran and get rid of everyone who are in one particular religion no matter what their actual ideals are? That's authoritarian ideology you have there.
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Wut-Wut Gizmo@lecso1991·
@aSweetEspresso @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar Im saying youre the ones being used and the willful ignorance of it is horrifying. They say it themselves, believe them! Why arent there any leftists in Iran? Because after they helped muslims win the revolution they were purged. Ignoring history and human nature is whats silly…
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar Many of the people in the rally during the speeches made it clear they want Chritisity to have more of n influence in this country. As we can see in the US where that influence is growing it is affecting govt policies. Don't think Tommy and his supporters wouldn't force it on us.
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Wut-Wut Gizmo@lecso1991·
@aSweetEspresso @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar Your head of state is also the head of The Church of England you know… Christian ethics is a cornerstone of western civilisation so good luck dodging its influence but we’re not governed by it, UNLIKE Islam which is as much a theocratic system of governance as it is a religion.
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar that protest made speeches about the UK being god's kingdom and how people were chanting christ is king? I don't want any religion influencing politics, do you?
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar I'm not sure what you are now trying to say. Tommy Robinson said he wants to 'stop' Islam, that means anyone who practices it he would get rid of them from this country. As for Muslims taking over this country, please don't be silly. What is your opinion of how many people at
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar anyone with heritage outside of this country is being used by Tommy Robinson you suggested it wasn't true, but you are now acknowledging he would do so, and not only that but you are happy about it. 2/2
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar We aren't going to live under sharia, we aren't going to become 2nd class citizens, I thought I was talking to someone with common sense here. So, you think it is perfectly ok to stop an entire religion? To go back to your original tweet in this thread to the person saying why 1/
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar If you look at my tweets above I said you will say he is talking about Muslims but he doesn't specify that in the sentence about remigration. Plus, he wants to get rid of every Muslim in this country - 'I would stop Islam' are his words in the same video.
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Wut-Wut Gizmo@lecso1991·
@aSweetEspresso @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar The subtitles show he is talking about muslims “…if they’re not going to assimilate”. I hope youre not intentionally trying to obfuscate non-assimilating muslims with other immigrant demographics. There are people from every nationality demanding remigration, pakistanis included
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@GarryBrown79155 @AlfieWoodl81129 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar I can't keep telling you what the legal definition is, you can read it for yourself. The ideals that Robinson and Reform hold are far right and authoritarian. You can think differently but you are factually wrong. One day you might understand facts. Bye.
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Garry Brown
Garry Brown@GarryBrown79155·
@aSweetEspresso @AlfieWoodl81129 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar We the majority are not far right and just because we are more vocal on immigration doesn’t make us far right It makes us sensible and wary of the future of our country Britain and Britain first Charity starts at home
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Garry Brown
Garry Brown@GarryBrown79155·
@aSweetEspresso @AlfieWoodl81129 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar 2/2 Wanting a safer future for our children and them growing to be proud of what being British means is not far right neither is Calling out rapists and child molesters Holding the government and the lefties to account for their constant protection of pedophiles is a must
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@GarryBrown79155 @AlfieWoodl81129 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar It's the legal definition of far right to want to put those born in your homeland first above all others living here, you can't make up a definition, it is what it is even if you don't like it. It is authoritarian to want to deport all from a only one certain religion.
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Garry Brown
Garry Brown@GarryBrown79155·
@aSweetEspresso @AlfieWoodl81129 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar 1/2 Reform don’t represent ultranationalism Or authoritarianism you lying twat Wanting the deportations of all illegal criminal and extremist immigrant isn’t far right Wanting our British culture to be preserved respected and put first in our homeland isn’t far right
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@AlfieWoodl81129 @GarryBrown79155 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar It is authoritarian to want to remove everyone of a certain religion which is what Robinson says he wants to do. It is nativism to want to put British born over anyone from a different country. And you can't deny Reform & Robinson are ultra nationalistic, it's their whole thing.
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@AlfieWoodl81129 @GarryBrown79155 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar Here is the definition of far right, these things are what Tommy Robinson and also Reform base their ideology on. - "Academics and political analysts generally define the contemporary British far right by three core features: ultranationalism, nativism, and authoritarianism",
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@AlfieWoodl81129 @GarryBrown79155 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar They may act left wing in your mind but the Labour party is Left wing, the conservatives right wing. Green party is to the left of Labour, Reform are to the right of Conservatives. Far right has a distinctive definition, it is based on political policies. I already gave it to you
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@lecso1991 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar He said remigrate immigrants without specifying only Muslims. He wants all foreigners out. So how far back will he go? the Italians who are in their '80s who came in the '50s? The Polish from the 90s? Or are you telling me only the Pakistanis from the '70s onwards?
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Wut-Wut Gizmo@lecso1991·
@aSweetEspresso @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar Youre a tad bit overreacting. Video summary: - stop islam - end foreign aid - empty migrant hotels with military assistance - remigrate muslims “unwilling to assimilate”. I can go into detail point-by-point but this is a rather milquetoast stance. This is the MODERATE solution.
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@GarryBrown79155 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar As to opposing paedophiles ands rapists, that is a normal thing to do, nothing left or right wing about it. Shame Tommy knew paedophiles when he was in the EDL and did nothing about it, so he can't be trusted now on that score.
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Garry Brown
Garry Brown@GarryBrown79155·
@aSweetEspresso @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar And yet you can’t prove anything Tommy says wrong He isn’t far right at all and all He has ever done os brought attention that which the government covered up If opposing foreign pedophiles and rapists is far right then I’m proud to be
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@GarryBrown79155 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar He has stated he wants all Muslims kicked out of the UK, that is authoritarian and therefore far right. Did you read the definition I gave you in quotation marks? As to bringing attention to those rapists, there were there people doing that before him. I remember them doing so.
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@GarryBrown79155 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar The left don't want to deport people based on their religion or origin. The definition I gave you is what Tommy Robinson is, he is a nationalist, a nativist, hostile towards immigration and deporting all muslims would be authoritarian.
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Giulia ☕
Giulia ☕@aSweetEspresso·
@GarryBrown79155 @SBurke10 @I_amMukhtar I'm not on the left, you assume incorrectly. I'm afraid the Conservatives are right wing compared to to the centre and left wing parties. Since they are right wing harder right policies are far right whether you like it or not. It's simply how it is defined. 1/
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