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@anaca_sanggre @probably_KinS @karlirey07 @avatar6583 Nope wla ka nmn hiningi na proof for those instances, you asked me to search SOGIESC to "learn the differences" (whatever that means). it does not only refer to refugees, pero it serves proof na it does happen kahit ibang bansa pa man. So paanong mababaw na logic ito? Tawa ulit?

@abcde2317_23 @probably_KinS @karlirey07 @avatar6583 Lol hindi ba yan pang immigration and refugee kineme sa canada? Hahaha pang screen sa mga refugee na tumatakas? HAHA ginamit mo naman yang proof na may lalaki ngang magpapanggap na trans para mangbiktima ng inosente sa pinas? Hahaha iba naman ang refugee asylum sa mga tarantado.

@abcde2317_23 @probably_KinS @karlirey07 @avatar6583 I-weaweaponize? Eh di issue yun ng pagiging tarantado ng tao. Ihiwalay mo kasi. Search mo para magets mo iha. 🩷

@not_alfonso @avatar6583 Just because they have the capacity for abuse, does that negate their gender identity? So, my problem is what constitutes as trans and men/women??

@abcde2317_23 @avatar6583 We don’t bend language and build laws around people’s propensity for abuse. It’s clear that your problem isn’t w/ trans women but w/ cis men and their capacity for abuse. Why should trans women be the ones punished by way of exclusion for the failures of men?

Pwede ba sabihin na lang natin na trans gender? Ang hirap kasi sa mga trans pinag pipilitan na babae sila kung sa karanasan din naman pala ang basehan hindi naman sila nabubuntis, nireregla tulad ng babae. Ang complicated talaga.

@maripohxa @not_alfonso @Execdump Ah how do u know po? Charizz

@abcde2317_23 @not_alfonso @Execdump hindi ako babae. pero likewise💗

Why insist trans women are women? Scientifically, you aren't. Our ancestors fought hard for women’s rights; claiming biological men are women is deeply disrespectful to biological women. Why can’t you just stay as trans without claiming to be women when you aren't?

@not_alfonso @avatar6583 Yes pero kine-claim nila na women sila, which is paano nga? kung hindi tayo babase sa biology. Because if anybody can be a woman without concise definition then that can be confusing for people. Should we not use information to help people to understand their identity?

@abcde2317_23 @avatar6583 Malinaw naman ang definition ng trans, ang hindi ko naiintindihan is bakit ang narrow at rigid ng definition mo ng womanhood, when it can be a space shared by both trans women and cis women. Hindi naman kine-claim ng trans women na cis sila.

@not_alfonso @avatar6583 No one is saying that trans women should be punished, pero with the definition of trans people, how do u know those people you refer to as cis men are not actual trans women? Is that not invalidating their gender identity?

@maripohxa @not_alfonso @Execdump Asking people to explain a certain concept I thought I was familiar with is not because I lacked understanding, it's because I want to expand upon it by getting different perspectives. So I wanted to see why we disagree on this, bakit iba thinking mo kesa sa akin

@abcde2317_23 @not_alfonso @Execdump na research mo na? eh kanina nga nanghingi kapa ng definition ng woman. the way I had to explain to u how experiences define a woman at kung anong mga experiences ito, says that u didn't really search enough to know the basics of being a transwoman

@maripohxa @not_alfonso @Execdump Laptrip ka ate, salamat po for conversing with me!! 🫶🏽🫶🏽

@not_alfonso @abcde2317_23 @Execdump dito ka magtanong mas magaling mag explain

@maripohxa @Execdump Ok super agree ako dito!!

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump what the community need most is a support system. syempre pag may mga pagkakamali sa community, kini-correct sila.

@maripohxa @not_alfonso @Execdump That's why I have time, kasi nga I've researched it na pero it seems people are informed differently so I would like to know why is that. Are we not able to expand our understanding through conversations and discussions?

@abcde2317_23 @not_alfonso @Execdump hindi nya naman inexclude ang lahat ng gender. they only used it to explain the shared experiences women have. and why dont u try searching it no? if u have time to bicker here, then u must also have the time and energy to know it yourself.

@maripohxa @Execdump I'm part of the community too pero di ko gets, so I engage in convos with people to understand their pov, so saying "u just get it" is not really informative and paano maeeducate ang iba

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump idk. im not a transgender. pero as a part of the community myself, u just get it. it takes time fo accept yourself and be open about it. thats why its important na mag provide tayo ng isang supportive environment for thise people who need it

@maripohxa @Execdump Samee, happy pride po!!

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump idk. thats on u. basta alam ko sa sarili ko na walang mali sa pagpapakatotoo.💗🏳️‍⚧️

@maripohxa @Execdump Pero kung magsspread tayo ng info online, di po dapat sure ung i-rereference natin kasi questionable ang accuracy ng ai

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump from safari. this is not entirely ai generated. nakabase ito sa mga totoong sources. hindi naman tayo gumagawa ng academic paper.

@not_alfonso @avatar6583 Tapos it is trying to be enforced that that person be treated as the gender they are, is that not harmful na madali gamitin ang trans identity as a guise to enter certain spaces para maghasik ng katarantaduhan?

@not_alfonso @avatar6583 I guess I don't view it as hate if we say na iba tlga ang trans woman sa woman. I want to fight for proper trans rights in society, pero w/o clear cut definitions on what trans is, mahirap i-achieve yun, kasi kahit sino pwede magclaim na trans may medical intervention or wla

@not_alfonso @maripohxa @Execdump I would argue that patriarchy not only affects women, but everybody regardless of gender. And what are these sociocultural experiences that they share?

@abcde2317_23 @maripohxa @Execdump Apart from the obvious shared sociocultural experiences, they also have shared struggles and pitfalls that all circle back to patriarchy as the real enemy.

@maripohxa @Execdump Ok, not sure what u identify as, pero paano mo alam na hindi ka man/woman?

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump what do u think is feminine? idk if its even required or not. but as long as they identify as a woman, who am i to object diba? hindi ko naman sila lubos na kilala.

@maripohxa @Execdump Thank you po, pero sana nmn po proper research from reputable sources hindi ung ai generated, pero it's the thought that counts. I guess pareho tayong tama sa definition ni google

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump okay na? ayan na o

@maripohxa @Execdump So pareho tayong tama??

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump

@maripohxa @Execdump Pero what classifies as feminine? Dapat ba naka-make up, mahaba hair, naka dress, mataas boses and other stereotypes? Like these are the norms I am talking about, are they supposed to have these femininity to be called women?

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump isn't their femininity an onvious example of a positive trait?