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@abcde2317_23 @Execdump what do u think is feminine? idk if its even required or not. but as long as they identify as a woman, who am i to object diba? hindi ko naman sila lubos na kilala.

@maripohxa @Execdump Pero what classifies as feminine? Dapat ba naka-make up, mahaba hair, naka dress, mataas boses and other stereotypes? Like these are the norms I am talking about, are they supposed to have these femininity to be called women?

Why insist trans women are women? Scientifically, you aren't. Our ancestors fought hard for women’s rights; claiming biological men are women is deeply disrespectful to biological women. Why can’t you just stay as trans without claiming to be women when you aren't?

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump okay na? ayan na o

@maripohxa @Execdump Yes pleasee

you cant even give our identity dignity spelling-wise, and you expect us to believe you are coming from a place of genuine concern, for WOMEN? you don’t even care about women, you only care about justifying your hate disguised as concern towards women. we know what you are

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@abcde2317_23 @Execdump isn't their femininity an onvious example of a positive trait?

@maripohxa @Execdump So, women should be treated a certain way and follow some kind of norm? Doesn't that perpetuate misogynistic ideologies and stereotypes? And are we defining womanhood based on negative aspects of life??

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump ha? diba nag aask ka what's their shared experiences? what experiences does trans women have that connects them to cis skmsn? and kaya nga sinabi ko kanina na experiences between all woman is different. how did u come up sa conclusion that women should follow a norm?

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump or youre asking for the definition of tge term? like?

@maripohxa @Execdump YES EXACTLY, so now ano ung noun na woman

@abcde2317_23 @maripohxa @Execdump Apart from the obvious shared sociocultural experiences, they also have shared struggles and pitfalls that all circle back to patriarchy as the real enemy.

@not_alfonso @abcde2317_23 @Execdump tumpak

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump wdym ano yung noun na women? sila? ofc?

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump both live as women in society. Both experience sexism, mansplaining, catcalling, gendered expectations and body policing. Different biology, same "treated as woman' experience.

@maripohxa @Execdump But they claim to be women. So kung every other kind of woman have an experience with female biology whether good or bad. Ano ang similarities nila with trans to be put under the category of women??

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump both live as women in society. Both experience sexism, mansplaining, catcalling, gendered expectations and body policing. Different biology, same "treated as woman' experience.

@maripohxa @Execdump So ano nga siya? People keep mentioning it's not just biology but lived experience, identity. Pero hindi ineexplain kung paano woman pareho ang trans and cis?? Ano ang kanilang pagkakatulad

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump both live as women in society. Both experience sexism, mansplaining, catcalling, gendered expectations and body policing. Different biology, same "treated as woman' experience.

@maripohxa @Execdump Yes, but my question is how are both experiences considered womanhood? Kasi if they both fall under the umbrella term of woman, meaning they check similar boxes

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump youre asking an obvious question. and ive told u many times na hindi naman nakapaloob lang sa bilogy ng isang tao ang kanyanv gender identity. gender and sex differs from each other

@maripohxa @Execdump Nope, kasi may underlying explanation, meaning cis women were born to be able to menstruate, pero something happened. Were trans born to be able to menstruate, get pregnant have xx chromosomes??

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump u keep on mentioning biology. and its told many times that womanhood is not entirely on womens biological traits

@maripohxa @Execdump Thank you for acknowledging na different ang lived experience. Pero how are they falling in the same category of womanhood, ano similarities nila if not lived experience? Kasi queer, white, black, disabled etc. women share some kind of exp with biological functions good or bad

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump you are literally enclosing the meaning of womanhood on biology. in modern context, "female" is entirely different from "woman"

@maripohxa @Execdump That's not limiting them. Using biology as a definition means women are people who get pregnant, menstruate, etc. IN PRINCIPLE. Kung hindi nila kaya yun, ibig sabihin may nangyari (medical issue, infertile, hysterectomy,etc)

@abcde2317_23 @Execdump Biology matters sa health, pero di sya sole definition ng womanhood.