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@TheKingMaz @TolosGaming @ConstanzaRelepy @Yukionyaaaa @NorthVoxVT That's a false equivalency, one assaulted a real person, the other made a morally offensive drawing. You can condemn both without equating them, moral offense is not equivalent to real abuse.

@acuilnos @TolosGaming @ConstanzaRelepy @Yukionyaaaa @NorthVoxVT Both should be in prison or the chair. I don't like pedophiles.

Inappropriate art of minors has no place in the vtuber community.

@Shark_Dude @I_Find_Antis They're saying the quiet part out loud. "I don't care about your abuse because it doesn't affect me, what's more important is that I find these drawings to be offensive to my morals and I will weaponize accusations of real abuse to feel personally vindicated."

@I_Find_Antis "Yeah, you were sexually assaulted as a kid, but that drawing of a young anime girl in a bikini is worse." Like, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT LOGIC???

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT People have a right to find it immoral and repulsive. The issue is using moral offense to justify equating it to real abuse when there is no victim, abuse, or depiction of real abuse involved. Doing so trivializes its severity whilst diminishing the weight of the accusation.

@CommieSlayer8 @acuilnos @NorthVoxVT Fair point Like I said at the start at least I think it was you we will never agree on this me and most ppl see this a something disgusting and it helps predators by normalizing this type of material if you have it you should go to jail with preds just the same

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT Case in point, putting your earlier reply into an AI detector comes back as entirely AI generated, whereas my replies come back as human.

@acuilnos @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT Your claim overprivileges realism as the locus of harm. Regulation isn’t confined to mimetic fidelity; even stylized depictions can normalize exploitative schemas within a broader symbolic economy. Obscenity tests are indeterminate and reactive, not precise safeguards.

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT You're using an argument from verbosity as a hyperbole, which once again demonstrates your lack of reading comprehension. Also, the "normalisation" claim takes a personal issue with a fictional depiction to make an unfounded claim about mass psychology to push moral panic.

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT CSAM is not readily accessible on the clear net and sharing it here would indict you of possession and distribution. The only explanation would be that you're being hyperbolic and referring to fictional depictions that you find to be morally offensive.

@CommieSlayer8 @acuilnos @NorthVoxVT Sorry, I’m not going to look up CP to give you examples you need both know this is not what society are large is talking about

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT That was almost a compliment. By definition "drawn CSAM" resembles the depiction of real abuse, which the majority of stylised drawings don't. Conflating by moral principle only serves to undermine its severity. Both are immoral, but real abuse is much more severe.

@acuilnos @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT It’s funny to see how you talk in replies when you’re not trying to argue with someone you actually sound like a normal person but as soon as you start doing this, you act as if you are superior than everyone else you’re defending CP you have no argument

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT The vast majority of stylised fiction are not realistic depictions. Laws that touch upon fiction were originally intended for depictions that resemble real abuse by looking realistic, in which case it can constitute CSAM. However, it would still need to fail an obscenity test.

@CommieSlayer8 @acuilnos @NorthVoxVT Now you’re just playing dumb you know for a fact, a good portion of these “artists” are making disturbingly accurate drawings

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT That's an attempt at generalising to equate the concept without accounting for the difference in severity compared to the depiction of real people being abused, moving the goalposts back to morality as a "gotcha".

@CommieSlayer8 @acuilnos @NorthVoxVT What is that fictional content depicting just curious??

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT Given the topic and the accusations being thrown around, I'd argue that sociology is a pretty important factor. This just sounds like an appeal to anti-intellectualism.

@acuilnos @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT I know what you’re saying but once again, nobody talks like that now we’re at the part of the argument where you feel as if though you can say anything you want because “ I’m illiterate” talk like a fucking human not someone who takes sociological courses

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT What's funny is seeing people call out their own illiteracy by knee-jerking with "AI" the moment someone responds with terms that they don't understand, when AI has a distinct writing style that can be detected if you copy and paste it into detection tools.

@acuilnos @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT The style of arguing is always so funny because people will use a thesaurus and ChatGPT now to make statements that make no sense and when someone calls them out, they act as if they’re intellectually superior you haven’t won anything you’re just an idiot

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT That's just another way of saying that you lack basic reading comprehension.

@acuilnos @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT OK until you can learn how to talk like a human being. I’m not going to engage. Nobody talks like this.

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT Funny, because by that logic all the people who demonstrate the pattern of POCD by equating stylised fiction to real abuse only to be caught with CSAM means that people who demonstrate this behaviour also have POCD and are covering up for it by using a red herring.

@acuilnos @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT Until we see another one of these YouTubers or v tubers who openly like loli and then oops there are found out to have real cp it’s a trope at this point if you consume loli you consume the other lie all you want but it’s a pattern

@RealGamingInc1 @CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT Moral panic fearmongering

@CommieSlayer8 @NorthVoxVT If that’s the type of stuff they have out for everyone to see one can only imagine the disturbing shit they have hidden glad they got raided hope they are monitored for the rest of there lives

The scariest part about the UK Mimi shit is now this means they can say "erm, you drew rape porn? You're a rapist" "You killed a cop in GTA? TERRORIST." Y'all love to claim it isn't censorship when it's something you personally don't like. You shouldn't be jailed for fiction.

nobody should be made to go to jail or endure public humiliation, especially not legally mandated humiliation, for fictional content. absolutely period. if you are on the side of such an oppressive force you may want to have a really deep think about what you are on the side of

If you're pro censoring the fiction you personally find reprehensible, and believe that someone isn't going to come along and censor the things YOU like because THEY find them reprehensible, then you're in for a big surprise when your stuff is gone and you were complicit in it.

@TheKingMaz @TolosGaming @ConstanzaRelepy @Yukionyaaaa @NorthVoxVT The UK protects nonces and will let the ones in jail out to create room for the people who make offensive social media posts and immoral drawings. Using moral offense to justify weaponizing a false accusation only undermines the severity of real abuse.

@TolosGaming @ConstanzaRelepy @Yukionyaaaa @NorthVoxVT Checks profile: conservative & Vtuber Damn that's like being a pedophile^2. Fuck off nonce we hate your kind.

@NorthVoxVT Stylised drawings are not equivalent to real people nor depict real abuse. If you think lolicon = pedo then stop grifting off a space that they pioneered because that says a lot about your feigned morals. Take your Western saviour complex and cultural appropriation with you.

@LT0771 It's telling when people like you feel justified to weaponize a serious accusation by falsely equating it to stylised drawings. You trivialise its severity to use it as an "own".

@RainAsterion “The pedophiles are only the beginning it’s a first they came for the jews situation” or how about we draw the line at you and just chill with that :)

Disappointing seeing fellow artists cheer for censorship. What makes you think you won’t be next? Normies think all anime drawings, especially moe style, look like kids even when they’re intended to be adults. Drawings should never be grounds for legal prosecution.