Austin Graham
557 posts
The Covenant God established with Abraham was never about salvation. If you think it was, you fundamentally misunderstand Scripture.
Also, the Mosaic Law was never about Salvation. I challenge you to point to a single passage that teaches that the Mosaic Law was instituted to for remission of all sins, the salvation of the soul, and the promise of Eternal Life. (hint, that was not its purpose)
Acts 15:5 uses teaching of circumcision and the keeping of the Mosaic FOR Salvation as EXAMPLES of Judaizing. Why? Because they are added requirements to Salvation that GOD never ordained! God NEVER taught circumcision or the Mosaic Law for Salvation in the Tanakh of the NT. Like the Pharisees rebuked by Yeshua, those Paul rebuked were adding man-made traditions that God did NEVER taught or ordained to Scripture as stumbling blocks for believers.
The Catholic and EO Churches do the EXACT SAME thing! They add the traditions of men like the Pharisees Yeshua rebuked, and they misapply and misappropriate the teachings of God and add to the Gospel exactly like the Judaizers Paul rebuked. They take a commandment of God that was never a requirement for Salvation (such as Baptism) and add it as a requirement for Salvation (EXACTLY as the Judaizers Paul rebuked did with circumcision).
The Catholic and EO Church are Judaizers every bit as much (and far more) than those Paul rebuked. They are the modern Pharisees and the modern Judaizers, and would be condemned by both Paul and Yeshua if they were walking the earth right now.
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Isn’t this a sin and disqualifying according to his judaizing messianic synagogue?
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@Judah0451 @AlexJ_Andrews Genesis 14:9-14 God establishes his covenant with Abraham through circumcision and requires this of future generations
Acts 15:5 tells us Judaizing means to require circumcision and keeping of the mosaic law
You don’t get to make up definitions and apply them to the Bible
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Really? When did God command circumcision for Salvation?
Answer: He didn't. That was not a commandment of God, but a commandment of men based off a twisting of God's Word (like many Eastern Orthodox and Catholic dogmas and practices).
Likewise, God commanded Baptism, but did not make it an absolute requirement for sin. When the EO and RC Church teach that Baptism for Salvation, they are being Judaizers. That was not a commandment of God, but a commandment of men based off a twisting of God's Word.
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@Judah0451 @AlexJ_Andrews All of the practices that fall under Judaizing were commandments from God. So they can all be found in scripture. You don’t read the Bible.
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Nope. Tell me, how many of the required practices and beliefs of the EO and RC churches are directly, clearly, and explicitly found in Scripture vs how many are the traditions of men?
Like the Judaizers Yeshua rebuked, those Godless Churches add rules and laws as stumbling blocks and elevate their own traditions over the Word of God. There are no worse Judaizers in the world.
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@AlexJ_Andrews They imposed man-made traditions on believers? Wow! Sounds exactly like the modern Orthodox and Catholic churches (ie, the Synagogue of the Pope).
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@johncdirks Basically what you’ve said is, Scripture is a contract you sign simply by virtue of reading it even if you don’t know it’s a contract or that you’re signing it by reading it.
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Maybe we need to clear this up again.
Sola Scriptura: Scripture alone is of itself sufficient to bind the conscience to the doctrine of Christ.
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@Deth2Compromise @LukasNectarios Who else was he in communion with?
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@LukasNectarios They were in communion with him, genius.
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Yikes. A prominent priest going on a show named after an infamous pornography series is maybe not the most prudent decision.
Not a good look, for Father Josiah or Orthodoxy.
Patristic Nectar@PatristicNectar
Watch Fr. Josiah on Girls Gone Bible: youtu.be/urEihhVM5mI?si…
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@AL_J82 Yes and the matters were not settled by scripture themselves but the guidance of the Holy Spirit. You thought you cooked
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The church fathers and councils both appealed to scripture when settling matters of doctrine.
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@ChristandGuitar This assume that in the split that either both were right or both were wrong. The first can’t be true and asserting that both were wrong without debating both is just lazy.
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The debate over the Filoque is a great example of why Roman Catholic/Eastern Orthodox attacks on Protestant denominations aren't effective.
While it's not a minor theological matter, they went so far as to anathematize each other over their disagreement.
In practice, whether the Spirit proceeds from the Father alone or the Father and Son has far less impact on the daily Christian life and fellowship than the Lord's Supper, Baptism, spiritual gifts, and even Bible translations.
There is a correct answer for the Filoque, and we should endeavor to come together and seek this truth with humility.
But that's not what happened. The Church split. The RCC and EO are effectively the first two major Christian denominations, with each proclaiming the title of "one true church."
With Protestantism, we own our disagreements over secondary matters. Our divisions aren't rooted in anathema, but in allowing people to worship in good conscience rather than forcing chaos (Romans 14). The Body of Christ deserves better.
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People like this is why alot of our group stopped looking into orthodoxy good job
Val@valorthodoxia
David Wood has officially scraped the bottom of the barrel. Bro went from debating Islam to recycling the most braindead anti-Orthodox talking points imaginable. Unc is pulling arguments straight from a 2009 Baptist Facebook comment section.
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@OneWayApologetc For instance if what Val said in the tweet you quoted is true then it’s not bad behavior. You guys just call it bad behavior and hide behind that instead of dealing with the arguments. It’s really a bad look for you guys
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@OneWayApologetc I know that you know there are people who are Orthodox who are calling out the behavior of the “OrthoBros”. But that’s irrelevant more than half of what you guys are calling terrible behavior is just begging the question of if the Orthodoxy is true or not.
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@OneWayApologetc You can find in every single group who proclaim to be Christians awful people. This is Reddit tier atheist argumentation. It’s embarrassing and insulting to the intelligence of the people who look to you for guidance.
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@ajsg94 Shouldn't people be showing the light of Christ if there Church is the true Church?
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@CounterWokeWest @Eli_StayFocused Notice this is half of the supposed contradiction. What did he say about the other half and how did he reconcile them?
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@ajsg94 @Eli_StayFocused I have.
An Orthodox father I spoke with ceded that the father works in ways the Orthodox church can't fully dictate.
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This is the "Apostolic Succession" of the EO church. Demonic doctrines of demons.
Do not be deceived.
-StayFocused
#Watchman #WatchmansKeep #Orthodoxy #Catholicism #Idolatry
Danny@Truth_matters20
I couldn't believe this was actually real when I first saw it. The pagan idolatry of Rome is astonishing.
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@CounterWokeWest @Eli_StayFocused Which I’m assuming you agree with? I’m gonna attempt to give you a simple answer but I’ve gotta know what I’m working with
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@CounterWokeWest @Eli_StayFocused Go ask a priest. We could spend hours just teasing out what is meant by each of these concepts and X is not conducive to doing that
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Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus
"its not a contradiction because you didn't look into it enough"
I did not say I only spent 5 minutes looking at it.
I said it takes not more than 5 minutes to notice.
You have the perfect chance to explain how it isn't a contradiction.
How is humans telling those who believe in God where his spirit does not live not contradicting divine incomprehensibility?
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