@contramordor In an absolute sense is either a lie made by you, or a dreadful truth that the founders were completely hypocritical.
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@contramordor Their treatment, and most of all for their manumission or all together emancipation. Not to mention as the declaration was signed there were sizeable numbers of freed blacks in the 13 colonies whom owned property of their own. So to say they didn’t believe blacks had no rights…
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The Declaration and the “all men” clause.
On the American conservative/right-wing, there’s four general views of the “American creed” clause in the Declaration. I’ll summarize them as succinctly as possible.
The first is the postwar consensus view, which is the tradition of Harry Jaffa’s neo-Lincolnian model. This says that the “all men” clause says exactly what we all take it to mean today, but it didn’t have its fruition until Lincoln, and then the Progressive movement, and finally in the Civil Rights Movement. It is an individualist, universalist, and pre-society view of individual man and his rights. It posits that America is a special and glorious place because of this creed.
The second is what I will call the Young Right view. This says that above model is basically correct, but it’s a major weakness of America and it needs to be corrected: Men are NOT equal and the Declaration has led us down a path that is destroying us. We need to abandon it totally.
The problem with the first view is that it reads more modern individualist-universalism back into the eighteenth century. It also fails to adequately take into account that the Founders did not consider blacks culturally or anthropologically deserving of rights, nor did they consider the pre-Americans Indians (described as Savages) worthy of being part of the American order. This view asks of us that we see these brilliant philosophically inclined founders as simply unaware of the contradiction between their lofty philosophy and their actual politics.
The problem with the second view is common (much to my constant frustration) among those circles: it adopts the liberal interpretation of America in order to be “based” in its reaction and subsequently rejects the American tradition. It’s also ahistoric, and abandons the greatness of our people and heritage.
Now we touch on the two “historicist” views, as opposed to the above idealist views.
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@JamesYoungcomix In homelanders final moments with no powers he’s back to that scared child that was tortured by those scientists begging for them to stop the torture, bargaining to do whatever they wanted if only to make them stop. But he’s an adult facing a man whom he took everything.
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@JamesYoungcomix Hitler still killed himself. Homelander is insane but also, remember the man wants his ego stroked and affection that he never got as he was born/raised as a lab rat. He’s a sad selfish narcissistic miserable human being with a god complex and with Superman’s powers. (1/
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Before Saddam died he said passion of the Christ is the best movie ever I wouldn’t have treated Jesus so cruelly. He didn’t beg Hitler didn’t beg hundred of death row inmates who’s last words are stuff like let’s get this over with if your like an insane evil criminal man that’s how you go out
Emir Han@RealEmirHan
In The Boys finale, Homelander had to look powerless according to Eric Kripke “Yeah, it was really important to us for Homelander to at least experience a little bit of time powerless.” “People have asked me, ‘Well, why don’t you send him out in the world powerless, wouldn’t that be the ultimate punishment?’ “I’m like, it would, until he gets his hands on some more Compound V, and then you’re back to where you started.” “So, he cannot walk out of that room alive, but we can spend time with him powerless to really reveal what everyone’s been saying all season, which is, ‘Take away those powers and you are nothing.’ “And he’s so cowardly and blubbering and pathetic, as are most strong men when you remove their power and they’re and they’re faced with their imminent death, they rarely handle it bravely.”
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@RaltsAuthor My hatred isn’t for the people of the south, it’s their goddamned leaders. I had an ancestor who was in Andersonville. Surely, that would mean something.
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@WanjiruNjoya Question: if you were taken back in time to the antebellum south would you believe in southern “rights” when they would share the benefits of that society?
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Even though you vote Republican you have to come out in defense of the Southern Democrats because they were right.
Wanjiru Njoya@WanjiruNjoya
@RebeccaTucker85 @PolitiBunny Yes, Robert Byrd is beloved in the South. So are all the other Southern Democrats who have consistently opposed the civil rights laws that were invented by the Republican Party in 1866 to help them gain the black vote in the South.
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@ryanswalters73 It’s not really a gotcha… that referendum came out in context to the national fugitive slave law of 1850 that was already in the pipeline and previous executive actions over fugitive slaves and abolitionists. To northerners wherever blacks free or slave went, slavery followed
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"The Illinois constitutional convention of 1847 had adopted and submitted to a popular referendum a provision that instructed the legislature to pass laws prohibiting the immigration of colored persons. It was ratified by a vote of 50,261 to 21,297. ... In 1853 the state was in effect legally closed to Negro immigration, free or slave. A Negro who entered in violation of the law was to be fined exorbitantly, and if unable to pay the fine could be sold into service." - Richard Hofstadter, Columbia University, two-time Pulitzer Prize winner.
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@JCapacola @ScottMGreer Except it did. By electing LBJ’s great society and the signators of the Hart-Cellar’s act, electing Democrat majorities during Ford administration and Carter into office. Nixon won because of LBJ’s failure in Vietnam and Reagan won because of Carter’s malaise.
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@akessel9212 @ScottMGreer The Woodstock generation didn’t eliminate the social contract and the family wage, that would be Reaganomics
Nixon won 49/50 states in 1972 and Reagan won 49/50 states in 1984 - this sentiment of the Woodstock generation was not widespread until after Reaganomics
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America's debt now exceeds our GDP.
This is a huge problem we will have to solve soon, and it will require some sacrifices on the part of Americans.
But, as I argue for AmCon, Americans now reverse JFK's famous dictum and demand only what their country can do for them. Asking for any sense of public mindedness in our day is a tough sell theamericanconservative.com/to-reduce-the-…
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@ryanswalters73 So, when the pro-slavery faction decides to resort to voter fraud and intimidation, and burning free stater towns because “muh abolitionists” you lose any semblance to stand on decorum.
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@ryanswalters73 For a damned good reason! Kansas was burning because the pro-slavery government in Missouri/ and other Southern states and political leaders had enabled the Lecompton territorial government’s criminal, violent, corrupt conduct dictate it to be a slave territory… (1/
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On May 19, 1856, Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts began a speech he called "The Crime Against Kansas," an oration that would last two days. Coming two years after passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which repealed the Missouri Compromise line, Sumner insulted the South, Southerners, and particularly the senior Senator from South Carolina, Andrew Butler.
In the address, Sumner called Missourians who crossed into the Kansas Territory to vote in the territorial elections "…murderous robbers from Missouri. Hirelings, picked from the drunken spew and vomit of an uneasy civilization…."
Many Northerners were outraged over the address. Senator Stephen Douglas, standing in the back of the chamber, was heard to mutter, "That damn fool is going to get himself killed by another damn fool."
And a few days later, he nearly did!
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@JCapacola @ScottMGreer It wasn’t Reaganomics that generated that sentiment. I would argue it would be the woodstock/anti-vietnam leftists.
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@ScottMGreer When Kennedy made that speech, the vast majority of all workers earned a “family wage” now less than 2% of workers earn a family wage
40 years of Reaganomics taught people to think selfishly, people simply ask the rational question regarding their nation - “what’s in it for me?”
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@ByronBiDisaster Ironically, they basically appeased neo-Zeon which led to the colony drop on Dublin, Ireland.
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The Federation succeed because the positive ideals of Zeon Deikun are co-opted by fascists, and then immediately after the Grypps war where their own fascism is called out, the Neo-Zeon war happens and they can deflect criticism using it, even claiming the victory as theirs.
Jonini konini@joniniplo
So funny how many gundam fans just cannot come to terms with the fact that the federation is not a “good” faction lmfao
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@CactusFuturist That or they got it from neo-Zeon stocks as well
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@CactusFuturist @AlexMesses The more war crimey portions joined with Neo-Zeon oddly enough
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@AlexMesses I always imagined a lot of the broader Titans got reintegrated back into the Federation if they played nice and had cleaner records, with the more war-crimey portions going rogue or being declared criminals, like we see with the guys in the 0094 manga and various other remnants.
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@ConfederateShop Your sources: Baldwin who was accused by other southern unionists of failing to publish Lincoln’s peace offers.
Dabney, a southern fireeater.
Baltimore sun, a newspaper that had sessionist loyalties since secession and the war began.
Discredited
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WHY couldn't Lincoln simply let Fort Sumter go?
First, you must look at who some of his party backers were--the Northern industrialists--those reliant on the protective tariff.
Had the South seceded they would have opened a free port, while also controlling the Mississippi river. Northern industry would have been devastated.
On April 4th, Virginia Unionist John B. Baldwin visits Lincoln. Baldwin suggests Lincoln order the withdrawal of troops from Ft. Sumter and Ft. Pickens, Lincoln responds that “his friends would not be pleased with such a step.” Then, the President added, “Well, what about the revenue? What would I do about the collection of duties?”
On April 12th, Virginia Unionist Alexander Hugh Holmes Stuart visits Lincoln. Stuart suggests Lincoln “order the evacuation of the forts.” President Lincoln’s responded, “If I do that, what will become of my revenue? I might as well shut up housekeeping at once!”
On April 22nd, Baltimore YMCA delegation visits Lincoln. Fuller suggests recognize the independence of the Southern States.” Lincoln’s responded, “what is to become of the revenue? I shall have no Government—no resources?”
Sources:
1. Testimonial of Delegate Col. John Baldwin of the Virginia secession convention, April 4, 1861, private interview with Lincoln.
2. Robert Louis Dabney, Discussions (Secular), vol. 4, pg. 97
3. Baltimore Sun, 23 April 1861, pg. 2, col. 1
ConfederateShop@ConfederateShop
“The South started it.” Did they? Hallam’s Constitutional History states: “The aggressor in a war is not the first to use force but the one who renders force necessary. It was the North who were the aggressors. When the Southern states held legal referendums to secede, they began receiving back their properties, many which were leased to the Federal government for the protection of those places. Fort Sumter was an exception, and although the federal government owned it, once South Carolina seceded, the federal government had no legitimate need for it. We know from cited statements that Lincoln refused to let go of this location for economic reasons. When South Carolina seceded, U.S. Major Anderson occupied Fort Moultrie, across the water from Fort Sumter. On the night of Christmas, Anderson spiked his guns and moved to the better defensive position of Fort Sumter. Later, tensions rose even further when Lincoln reinforced the Fort with The Star of the West, which was clearly seen by South Carolina as an act of aggression. William Seward, Lincoln’s Secretary of State, remarked: “The attempt to reinforce Sumter will provoke war. The very preparation of such an expedition will precipitate war. I would instruct Anderson to return from Sumter.”
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@WanjiruNjoya Oh and southern democrats have always represented what was best for the south? They acted as if they were the true inheritors of the founding fathers but in reality squandered it for slavery fiefdom not freedom.
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When Republicans make jokes about Democrats from the past they're really making jokes at the expense of the South.
If you're a Southerner, they're laughing at your history and expecting you to laugh along with them. I get that it's good to laugh at yourself, but this is mockery.
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@anglopjdst I don’t know where you got your statistics but other institutions especially MIT have that number 10 times higher in the klan’s original 1865-1877 run alone.
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The Ku Klux Klan killed a grand total of 2000 Black people during their entire history, the number of Black on White murders during the 2010s only was over 4000. This sort of stuff is a deliberate intimidation tactic.
newport@newportpioneer
did they take these photos just for the vibe or what
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@LizCalibra Because you’re approachable and because I really don’t have real friends.
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