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Producer, Beatmaker, Button Turner | Email: [email protected] | YT: aliengroover
The Throne Katılım Haziran 2019
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Sooooo many producers I talk to are struggling to figure it out. Lack of guidance, lack of direction and usually lack of patience.
JUST GO. Figure out the rest on the way.
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@MoYeeezy @vechris @BlockTopickz @billboard Ye is also a MUCH bigger name, so the drop off wasn’t as big. But the point is there was still a fall off. let’s not pretend.
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T.I. says leaving Atlantic was one of the worst decisions he made in his career, but he just had to know if his success was due to him or the label
[Almost instantly finding out labels did things he was oblivious to]
🎥: @Billboard
🔗: youtu.be/BN9WWdYc8zA?si…
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@nileriverr @justinsomuch That’s not the same as not paying at all
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@aliengroover @justinsomuch you just said the same thing i did man lol. 3 month trial or not they weren’t going to pay artists until she threatened
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@justinsomuch To me, it’s complete BS to force the customer to buy something they didn’t want. CD prices were out of control and never dropped even though manufacturing costs did. Those things inspired piracy which led us to streaming, a compromise for the labels
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@justinsomuch There were a LOT of songs that you had to purchase whole albums for. I blame the industry though. Singles have always been around. Ice Ice Baby signaled the defining shift. When the single was taking off, they removed it from shelves, forcing the consumer to buy the album
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@nileriverr @justinsomuch Not exactly true. The issue Swift had was they weren’t going to pay artists during the 3 month free trial. She also famously took her music off of Spotify because of pay. Folks hate her but for a big artist she has been active. Not the only one but it still speaks volumes
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@justinsomuch remember they weren’t even gonna pay artists at the beginning of apple music until TSwift threatened to not put her music on there lmaoo
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It is great to see, but it’s funny that after all these years and all of these horror stories we hear from the music business, we’ve never once heard of someone having their wages garnished by a major label because they didn’t recoup.
Sonny@SonnyDigital
I be so happy seeing you tweets that clarify a lot of the dumb things people think they know about the music industry.
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@BrianZisook I know people are new and it is worth explaining, but there are a lot of people who should already know this by now. I actually know a guy who got signed and then the label dropped them before the album release and they let them walk away with $40,000. He built a studio
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Label debt is NOT personal debt.
If a label pays you an upfront advance, they recoup it from your royalties first. But if you never recoup the full amount, you keep the advance and walk away. There is no repayment, credit impact, or garnished paychecks.
Not a loan.
AnaYor@AnaYormusic
If you don’t make it back, are you in debt? If the answer is yes, then it’s a loan lol
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@culturehause @Plu2o_Nash People are still getting big checks but that pool is way smaller than before because of just that: budgets. But let’s not pretend every other producer was getting $30K back in the day, either
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@Plu2o_Nash Artists have to sell records. When you sell records your budgets are increased across the board. When budgets are increase there is more money to spend.
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What do producers have to do so we can sale beats for 30K again?
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@J2thelew @9thwonder I said something similar elsewhere and echoed it in another reply here. It was never looked at as some masterpiece. We recognized it for what it was and is. Saying it is any more or less than that is kind of wrong
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@9thwonder Do people not know that in real time real emcees, even in the late 70s early 80s hated that THAT song became the mainstream's introduction to rhyming?
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I don’t actually agree being the fact that the part he’s talking about, is basically the HOOK to the song..and that song dropped in 1979….not 1992. Lol
ill logik@sodadecounty
I agree with him lmaoo
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@9thwonder Yeah, I’m definitely not mad or surprised, but basically what I said elsewhere is that nobody ever said that song was some iconic display of lyricism that needed to be dissected. You can’t use the first movie to use effects as the reason you have visible wires in your new movie.
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Everybody (well some folks) mad at Yachty for what he said about Rapper’s Delight…..
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@zadcozzy Russ always been on point. We love Jay-Z but not 15% worth of love 😂
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Russ shares more insight on why called out Roc Nation charging artists 15% for distro and reveals Jay Z sent him some messages through B Dot like 4 or 5 times.
"It wasn't a knock at Roc Nation or Jay Z, it was just look this is a self uploading distro service. That's it. There's a million of these and it's all the same shit. There's places where you can do it and keep 100%, so why would you give 15%? (Yeah, but it's Roc Nation). What, do you think you're going to get a Jay Z feature tomorrow? Are you fucking slow? What are you talking about... it's not even like Empire distribution or something like that, it's literally TuneCore DistroKid but just under the umbrella of Roc Nation, so it's like sexier. You think that, well shit though like I bet you go to the Brunch though... you're falling for it. I thought of creatinig my own distro as well at one point, my own TuneCore cause that's just really smart. You get shit ton of artists to sign up and they're putting out their music through you... the independent scene is making up such a high market share so it makes sense RN wants to get in on that because it's the fastest growth part of the business. Let's make our own distro and because it's RN, it'll feel like maybe some shit will happen, I'm part of something."
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@Stephan06218540 @_yowse @zadcozzy Didn’t know UMG offered distribution. But this is even a topic of discussion because it was just recently announced. The Orchard has been around for almost a decade. And I believe while the take is about the same, there are more opportunities and IIRC it is somewhat curated
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@ASolovichh @AbeBatshon Today, very few are actually *selling* beats for that price. Most are *leasing* them, and it’s a HUGE difference. Fun fact as someone who has been in and around the game since the mid-80s: producers around the way have been SELLING beats for $100 or so since forever
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@AbeBatshon feels like selling beats that cheap can really undervalue the work that goes into making them
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Having these stupid ass conversations when AI is literally existentially threatening music creators is the most unproductive thing ever. Media platforms need to do better in covering the most important conversations. This is worthless…
Producer Spotlight@prodspotlight
DJ Scheme says producers are messing up the game by selling beats for $50-$100 😳
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Not sure why this is so hard to understand, simply because we know what streaming is NOT. Move accordingly ✊🏾
Alchemist Type Beat@Alchemist
I have been trying to explain this to so many OGs smh
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FACT! This jawn is a VERY slept on album! Outside that jawn with Kelis this is a no skip album for ME!
jmac@jmac1224_
Busta Rhymes - Can’t Hold The Torch (feat. Q-Tip & Chauncey Black) [prod. J Dilla] The Big Bang is a great album
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Always push for song-level recoupment in your producer agreement
With album-level recoupment, the artist needs to recoup the costs for the entire album before you see anything
And even if your song does well, who knows when that's going to happen
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