Hugh Macken, Jr.

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Hugh Macken, Jr.

Hugh Macken, Jr.

@alisteninghead

Family man, catholic media man & tech advisor. Will travel long distances for a slice of NY pizza. I admire great listeners and aspire to be one!

United States Katılım Aralık 2008
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Dr. Calum Miller
Dr. Calum Miller@DrCalumMiller·
BREAKING: Kenya's Court of Appeal rules that abortion violates the child's right to life and overturns the decision of a rogue judge who had tried to legalise abortion! This is a HUGE win in one of Africa's biggest legal cases ever. Congratulations Kenya!
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
1. Being an advocate for a just peace is not a position of neutrality in relation to injustice of any kind. 2. The pope is not suggesting this. Nor is Bishop Barron. Nor am I. 3. I respectfully disagree with your assessment of what I grasp but I do sincerely appreciate your candor & thoughtfulness in engaging in this discussion.
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Alan F Jr
Alan F Jr@AlanFJr·
“civic leaders should allow Pope Leo to be present for the negotiations, not as God, not as a mediator but as a vicar for Christ and an impartial advocate for an authentic peace” 1. Pope Leo, should not be neutral between an Islamic Extremist terrorist regime that hangs people from cranes in public squares and the U.S. or the West. The Islamic Republic is evil and antithetical to all of the teachings of Christ and the Old Testament. 2. As I said repeatedly, contrary to what I’ve just said, over and over again, which is the truth, we should never make Christianity the face of the U.S. government in a war with a regime that falsely claims to represent Islam. This is a war for civilization, all of humanity, not the advancement of Christianity. You don’t want to teach mentally unbalanced Muslims that this is a holy war between religions. 3. Your failure to grasp the dangers of injecting religion into war, geopolitics, or even U.S. politics is a danger to American security, society and our political system.
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JP Lindsley | Journalist
JP Lindsley | Journalist@JPLindsley·
Media, Vance, and Trump All Manipulated the Pope's Words Pope Leo, amid a successful African tour, said plainly that it is “not in my interest” to debate Trump and insisting that earlier remarks about the world being ravaged by “a handful of tyrants” were not directed at Trump. Indeed, until Trump began to send angry tweets about the pope, Leo had not mentioned him by name. The media, likely pushing for clicks rather than the truth, had erased Putin’s war from descriptions of Leo’s general condemnation of warmongers, instead making it seem, falsely, that the pontiff was only talking about Trump. JD Vance, a recent Catholic convert who had presumed to instruct the pope on what the Vicar of Christ is allowed to say, quickly welcomed Leo’s attempt to cool things down—perhaps because Vance is afraid of enraging Catholics before the mid-term elections, or more likely, of his own presidential prospects. Leo, whose chosen name means "lion," said he will keep speaking as he has been. While in Africa, Leo also expressed firm solidarity with the Ukrainian people. reuters.com/world/africa/p… Get our daily updates: UnderFire.News
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
@AlanFJr @JPLindsley Can you clarify specifically what you find to be crazy talk? As mentioned, I think this sums up my own thoughts fairly well: x.com/BishopBarron/s… I'd be curious to know what specific aspect of this thinking you find to be crazy or at odds with the US Constitution
Bishop Robert Barron@BishopBarron

There is a way past the absurd and deeply divisive “war” between the President and the Pope, which has been enthusiastically ginned up by the press. And it is indicated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2309 to be precise. After laying out the various criteria for determining a just war—proportionality, last resort, declaration by a competent authority, reasonable hope of success, etc.—the Catechism points out that “the evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good.” The assumption is that the just war principles function, to use the technical term, as heuristic devices, designed to guide the practical decision-making of those civil authorities who have to adjudicate matters of war and peace. The role of the Church, therefore, is to call for peace and to urge that any conflict be strictly circumscribed by the moral constraints of the just war criteria. But it is not the role of the Church to evaluate whether a particular war is just or unjust. That appraisal belongs to the civil authorities, who, one presumes, have requisite knowledge of conditions on the ground. So, is the war in question truly the last resort? Is there really a balance between the good to be attained and the destruction caused by the war? Are combatants and non-combatants being properly distinguished in the waging of the conflict? Do the belligerents have right intention? Is there a reasonable hope of success? The posing of those questions—indeed the insistence upon their moral relevance—belongs rightly to the Church, but the answering of them belongs to the civil authorities. The Pope has said, on numerous occasions, that he is not a politician and that his role is not the determination of any nation's foreign policy. But he has just as clearly said that he will continue to speak for peace and for moral constraint. In making both of these claims, he is operating perfectly within the framework of paragraph 2309 of the Catechism. If we understand that the Pope and the President have qualitatively different roles to play in the determination of moral action in regard to war, we can, I hope, extricate ourselves from the completely unhelpful narrative of “Pope vs. President.”

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Alan F Jr
Alan F Jr@AlanFJr·
Surely you jest, or I’m clearly not talking to someone playing with a full deck. Not only is that crazy talk out of touch with global customs but also in direct contravention of the spirit and letter of the US constitution. It would also be insanely bad and dangerous geopolitics to put a Catholic face on a war with an Islamic nutjob regime. You kept saying you agreed with me and then contradicting me. I’m not sure if that was some crazy negotiating tactic you learned in night school or if you didn’t understand me, but religious leaders are limited to our personal lives and have no role in government affairs. You’re crazy talk is a formulae for holy war.
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
The only thing I would add is...for the love of God and our world and all that is good, the civic leaders should allow Pope Leo to be present for the negotiations, not as God, not as a mediator but as a vicar for Christ and an impartial advocate for an authentic peace that can only come by the grace of Almighty God.
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Alan F Jr
Alan F Jr@AlanFJr·
We all belong to different Churches. We balance our respective rights by keeping all of our churches and Priests out of the government (except in the rare case when they run for office and officially join it because a constituency elects them). They can talk to Catholics, not American leaders. It protects our government and our churches from the corruption of the other. Nothing good comes from mixing them. Do you know how many fake “churches” there are pretending to be religious faiths for tax benefits? It’s not the governments role to say, “yeah but the Catholic Church is one of the real ones!” Because that puts them in the position of having to make an official declaration that Scientology isn’t one of the real ones, disenfranchising Tom Cruise and other cult members.
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
@AlanFJr @JPLindsley @BishopBarron makes this point far more cogently than I have above x.com/i/status/20462…
Bishop Robert Barron@BishopBarron

There is a way past the absurd and deeply divisive “war” between the President and the Pope, which has been enthusiastically ginned up by the press. And it is indicated in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2309 to be precise. After laying out the various criteria for determining a just war—proportionality, last resort, declaration by a competent authority, reasonable hope of success, etc.—the Catechism points out that “the evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good.” The assumption is that the just war principles function, to use the technical term, as heuristic devices, designed to guide the practical decision-making of those civil authorities who have to adjudicate matters of war and peace. The role of the Church, therefore, is to call for peace and to urge that any conflict be strictly circumscribed by the moral constraints of the just war criteria. But it is not the role of the Church to evaluate whether a particular war is just or unjust. That appraisal belongs to the civil authorities, who, one presumes, have requisite knowledge of conditions on the ground. So, is the war in question truly the last resort? Is there really a balance between the good to be attained and the destruction caused by the war? Are combatants and non-combatants being properly distinguished in the waging of the conflict? Do the belligerents have right intention? Is there a reasonable hope of success? The posing of those questions—indeed the insistence upon their moral relevance—belongs rightly to the Church, but the answering of them belongs to the civil authorities. The Pope has said, on numerous occasions, that he is not a politician and that his role is not the determination of any nation's foreign policy. But he has just as clearly said that he will continue to speak for peace and for moral constraint. In making both of these claims, he is operating perfectly within the framework of paragraph 2309 of the Catechism. If we understand that the Pope and the President have qualitatively different roles to play in the determination of moral action in regard to war, we can, I hope, extricate ourselves from the completely unhelpful narrative of “Pope vs. President.”

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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
Again, I agree with and the Pope would agree with you regarding clerical leaders like the Pope or priests, as a general rule, not being in government. It is not the role of the Church or the Pope to play the role of Caesar. But there can be a dialogue of mutual respect. In fact, the Church can and should uphold the rightful authority and responsibility of civic leaders. She can encourage faithful citizenship, the obligation to pay taxes (render until Caesar what is Caesars and to God what is God's), etc...
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
The catechism also states "The Church and human reason both assert the permanent validity of the moral law during armed conflict. "The mere fact that war has regrettably broken out does not mean that everything becomes licit between the warring parties." The Church can speak to the tenets of the moral law, to the economy of salvation when men (yes, including men within the Church, not excluding the pope himself) fail to respect those laws and how such moral laws apply to military conflicts.
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
@AlanFJr @JPLindsley I actually agree with that. So does the Church. So does the Pope. I am advocating for dialogue between the Trump admin and the vatican, not policy guidance from the Vatican.
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
@AlanFJr @JPLindsley So for example, regarding just war, according to the Catholic Church's official teaching in the Catechism, the "evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy [of a just war] belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good."
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
@JDVance @ccpecknold Would love to hear x space interview w Pope Leo & VP Vance. Direct dialogue rather than dialogue via sound bites is best, imho. Pope Leo has indicated his openness to dialogue. 🙏
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JD Vance
JD Vance@JDVance·
I am grateful to Pope Leo for saying this. While the media narrative constantly gins up conflict–and yes, real disagreements have happened and will happen–the reality is often much more complicated. Pope Leo preaches the gospel, as he should, and that will inevitably mean he offers his opinions on the moral issues of the day. The President–and the entire administration–work to apply those moral principles in a messy world. He will be in our prayers, and I hope that we'll be in his.
Fox News@FoxNews

NEW: Pope Leo downplays tensions with President Trump, addressing a "narrative that has not been accurate in all of its aspects." He says it is “not in my interest at all” to debate the president and will keep preaching a message of peace.

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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
Jack, catholic365.com would love to do an x spaces chat on your Catholic faith, just war theory as it applies to iran & your views on the current relationship & comms between Pope Leo & the Trump admin if you'd be open to it. I just did a c365 livestream w journalist & papal biographer Elise Allen last month. Would you be open to discussing this?
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Hugh Macken, Jr.
Hugh Macken, Jr.@alisteninghead·
Pope Leo rightly stresses the importance of dialogue in cultivating peace. With all due respect to Pope Leo, I think it's important for him to practice what he preaches by extending the offer publicly, of heart to heart, head to head, pastoral, non-political, dialogue & prayer with US Pres Trump. Dialogue through sound bites is not true dialogue.
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