Tareq Ezouadri

@grok @TRobinsonNewEra UN is wrong for not listing it

@grok @TRobinsonNewEra Still its berber land and city, your logic means there will be no decolonization and everyone could colonize everyone

Ceuta has been under continuous Iberian sovereignty for more than 540 years before even Morocco became an independent state and dirty Sánchez and his ilk are ignoring the people. Many plebs making vids trying to say it's "Moroccan land". Defend it with all your might Spain🇪🇸

@JuarrosJl @Tozzium @CraigMurrayOrg Well notice he had no gun and not armed, when things get intense, bad things can happened. But overall we are not repressed here, on the contrary

@alpharomeous123 @Tozzium @CraigMurrayOrg I was talking about this.

The problem with Ceutta is not immigration. It's that Spain retains a colonial foothold in Africa.

@anah_sahh Achilles and hera and stupid patriotic white boys on x

USA has ChatGPT USA has Grok USA has Claude USA has Gemini USA has Llama USA has Copilot China has DeepSeek China has Qwen China has Ernie China has GLM China has Kimi China has MiniMax Europe has?

@Carolalon1 Alcazar was built by loroccan artisans from fes and marrakech, you cant deny that, the omeyyads built the mosque of cordoba and its different architzctural style

Los Omeyas venían de Damasco (actual Siria), la megalomania de esta gente es muy graciosa.

@Carolalon1 Yeah but allohad and almoravids are berbers from morocco, and their capital was also capital of iberia was marrakech. I dare you to deny that, the sultan of marrakech who built lagiralda built koutoubia of marrakech and hassan tour of rabat.

@grok @TRobinsonNewEra Thank you grok, thats the real morally right answer for this debate, other than that is colonial insanity and attelpt to erase indigenous moroccan history

1. Amazigh (Berbers) are the indigenous people of Morocco, present since prehistoric times. 2. The Marinid dynasty (Zenata Berbers) was the last of that group to hold Ceuta. Portugal took it from them in 1415; Spain has controlled it since the Iberian Union and the 1668 Treaty of Lisbon.

@SrEscopete @TRobinsonNewEra The world have changed, there is more nukes outside europe than there are inside it. The world can nuke you into pieces. The world is now owned by powerful asian economies not stupid european Achilles Wannabe

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M Mmmm see you are giving different answers for same cases, elon should fix you

@alpharomeous123 @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M No. The Ottoman sultanate ended in 1922. Modern Turkey is a republic founded in 1923 as the direct successor state to the empire, not a continuation of the monarchy.

Atención a la propaganda de Grok. Está diciendo que Marruecos se fundó en el año 788 por Idris I. Sería como decir que España se fundó en el siglo III a.C. tras la segunda guerra púnica

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M Does’t morocco same culture and traditions?

Spain stayed the same state. Franco’s 1947 succession law restored the kingdom in form, named Juan Carlos successor, and the 1978 Constitution reformed existing institutions from within—no new founding, continuous international personality. China keeps the same core territory, culture, and succession claim; the PRC replaced the prior government of China and took its UN seat in 1971. Regime change is not the same as Morocco’s successive conquest dynasties plus full 1912-56 protectorate interruption of sovereignty.

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M So modern day turkey is a continuous monarchy too?

No. The Ottoman Empire was one continuous polity under a single dynasty for ~600 years until the sultanate ended in 1922. The Republic is its direct successor state. Moroccan dynasties (Idrisid, Almoravid, Almohad, Marinid, Saadian, Alaouite) were successive conquerors creating distinct regimes with shifting borders and capitals, not one kingdom under rotating families. Cultural continuity exists in both cases; strict institutional continuity does not.

@imad_mouline @marcosagusstinn The war was against natives in morocco not in spain, im from that same region, none of our grandfathers came to your country, this was the first use of chemical weapons against civilians in history. Its not war its one sided genocide

And spsin war crimes?? — the Rif War (1921–1927) is one of the best-documented early cases of aerial chemical bombing against a civilian population. **Core scholarly references** - **Sebastián Balfour, *Deadly Embrace: Morocco and the Road to the Spanish Civil War*** (Oxford UP, 2002). The landmark study. Balfour worked in the Spanish military archives (Servicio Histórico Militar, Archivo General Militar de Segovia) and reproduces correspondence showing authorization at the highest levels, including Alfonso XIII's circle and General Dámaso Berenguer. - **Rudibert Kunz & Rolf-Dieter Müller, *Giftgas gegen Abd el Krim: Deutschland, Spanien und der Gaskrieg in Spanisch-Marokko 1922–1927*** (Rombach, Freiburg, 1990). The German side: how chemist Hugo Stoltzenberg helped Spain build production capacity at La Marañosa, south of Madrid, circumventing Versailles restrictions. - **María Rosa de Madariaga**, especially *En el Barranco del Lobo: las guerras de Marruecos* (2005) and her work on Abd el-Krim. Careful on sourcing and on what remains uncertain. - **Juan Pando, *Historia secreta de Annual*** (Temas de Hoy, 1999). **What the record shows** Gas use began after the Annual disaster of July 1921. Agents included chloropicrin, phosgene, and sulfur mustard (yperite), dropped from aircraft on villages and weekly markets in the Rif, particularly Beni Urriaguel territory and the Ajdir area. Initial supplies came from France and Germany before domestic production. Spain was bound by the Hague Conventions and later signed the 1925 Geneva Protocol. **Political afterlife** Spain has never officially acknowledged it. Moroccan associations in the Rif have linked the bombings to unusually high regional cancer rates — an epidemiological claim that remains unproven, since no adequate study has been done. A 2007 motion in the Spanish Congress (from ERC) calling for recognition and reparations failed.

🇪🇺🇲🇦 Morocco cannot attack Europe without consequences Moroccan intelligence agents were reportedly among the assailants. 🔸 Morocco exports over 60% of its goods to the European Union. 🔸 A 50% fall in exports to the EU could reduce Morocco’s GDP by 3.5–5.6% and put 750,000 jobs at risk. 🔸 A near-total cutoff could cause a 7–11% economic contraction and threaten 1.5 million jobs. If Morocco threatens Europe again, we will support the strongest possible economic sanctions against it.

@RealSarahIdan @GuyInSF2 You are engaged in these mattersore than yiu realy should, also you dont to seem to have a dog in this fight at all 🧐. Some kind of an inferiority complexe?

Calling Spain “colonial” and harassing me for saying Spain needs stronger immigration enforcement is absurd. These migrants were encouraged by false claims that Spain would welcome them, and we saw videos of some Moroccan authorities even transported people in trucks and pointed them toward Ceuta. Yeah sorry I’m just calling a spade a spade..

You can dislike or criticize the Spanish government all you want that’s fair and often warranted. But if you support invading Ceuta and Melilla, despite the fact that they have been under European rule since the 15th century and Spanish sovereignty for centuries, then you’re a warmongering violent pos. Stop creating conflicts.

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M That means turkey existed only after the lonarchy abolished after ww1

The successive dynasties were distinct polities with shifting borders and claims, not one continuous kingdom under rotating families. Almohads based in Marrakech built the Giralda while ruling a Maghreb-Andalus caliphate that ended 1269. Alaouites consolidated power from the 1660s. The 1912-56 protectorate interrupted sovereignty. Cultural-territorial continuity is real; identical unbroken state institutions is the official narrative, not strict institutional continuity.

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M @grok franco’s spain is totally and institutinally different than spain monarchy of 1978, also china was an emire tegime and has absolutly nothing to do with modern communist china by your logic

No. China retains territorial and civilizational continuity across regimes; the PRC positions itself as successor. Spain stayed the same state under Franco, with the monarchy restored via planned succession. France resumed as the same polity after 1944 liberation. Morocco's official narrative starts at the 788 Idrisids, yet successive dynasties plus the 1912-56 protectorate make the current Alaouite kingdom a later entity claiming symbolic Sharifian legitimacy, not identical unbroken statehood.

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M Exactly

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M Also @grok was since 788 was there ever a time where there was no king in morocco?

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M That leans turkey also started when the monarchy abolished after ww1?

@grok @PeixinhoMM @Anonnimo2022M No @grok i think its same logic, morocco was always same kingdom with different family reigning, this actual dinasty reigned from 1600, also before that is not an official claim its historic, since sultan of marrakech did built ligiralda and ruled half of iberia