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@lesbianhonglu @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates Some bullshit in my ears

@AtelierL0gic @anchkiko @limbleedupdates youtube.com/watch?v=5-SWUl…

[strawpage] Ring sinergy and not needing to run Ring Outis alone already gives them a big bonus they'd need to be BAD bad to not be run

@lesbianhonglu @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates Well i mean yeah for any fight where you cant stack up a status or your status is constantly being cleared it IS only natural that higher base damage is preffered. I wont deny that much but even then she has poor bloodfeast generation bc of stacking so her spot is veryyy shaky

@anchkiko @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates yeah i agree for single wave bosses but in rr even for bleed the majority of the damage is physical

@lesbianhonglu @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates Which was true,,, before the new ring ids which makes his ramp up 3 turns. Nonetheless you get more value, damage, and team support from it. Either way these ults doing like 450 damage isnt anything gamebreaking when you do 200 damage clashing to use it in the first place

@anchkiko @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates you wont be getting hong lus s3-2 or even a fully ramped s3 in a short 4-5 turn bleed clear, but you absolutely could get dons s3-2 to finish out a fight that short

@lesbianhonglu @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates Thats more because of their overall incredibly high rolling and stupid damage conditionals. Its also inherent to the nature of the status as potency is rare and without talisman you may not even see 50 potency until the end of the fight, while bleed can get 90 in like 2-3

@AtelierL0gic @anchkiko @limbleedupdates admittedly, i am much more well versed in rr5 stats than just normal boss ltcs. due to the multiple wave format statuses are less important there, but for rupture at least i know that maost cycles and heishou s3s in general do more wayy more damage than rupture procs

@lesbianhonglu @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates My issue with her s3-2 is that the stars need to align for it to be at max power with her suboptimal hardblood generation single slotted, and when those stars DO align it isnt damage that exactly saves the charge up, especially since you cant use her s3 at all - a major weakness

@anchkiko @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates i agree manager is better in groups because of her s2, but her main appeal has always been her s3. it still is one of the highest damaging skills against a single target and still the 2nd highest on a bleed team, while not being limited to 1 use

@lesbianhonglu @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates That is a fair point, but admittedly the focus point of an identity is how well they do in a boss setting. Wild hunt is still a monster in multi enemy encounters like the bongbong walp but its just not worth running him. Manager does does bttr in groups but the standard is 1 boss

@AtelierL0gic @anchkiko @limbleedupdates true for tremor, kinda true for bleed, and occasionally true for sinking, rupture, or burn. theres too many factors that affect it to make a blanket statement though (waves, resistances, status resistance, amount of enemies, hp gates, status clears, etc)

@lesbianhonglu @AtelierL0gic @limbleedupdates I think what you need to remember is that these identities will at median do anywhere between 25~120 damage with their skills. Rupture still gets alot of damage from rupture, and sinking gets alot from butterfly but above all bleed gets the most because after t1 each clash is 40.

@AtelierL0gic @anchkiko @limbleedupdates it depends on the encounter, but if you look at a team like rupture the ids themselves are often doing quite a bit more than rupture damage. same with sinking, though this can obviously be changed with deluge and some types of butterfly strats

@lesbianhonglu @limbleedupdates Right but they didnt have nearly the same amount of support. Respectfully I think you should just accept that the status effects *has* changed, and majority of your damage in bleed in specific is from status effect proccing. Its what its best at after all.

@anchkiko @limbleedupdates sanguine is only needed for count, this was after ringsang so that wasnt a concern. before kk duo but there were other sources of potency back then, kk hong lu is a monster who just clashes terribly

@lesbianhonglu @limbleedupdates She simply clashed more i suppose? My hong lu won all of his clashes and did his follow up every time. I think that alone should point out that majority of this is bleed. Also back in the day I imagine that was before either sanguine or the kk duo were used. Who help a ton.

@anchkiko @limbleedupdates i believe they changed it at some point? back in season 4 there were videos comparing how much damage bleed did to bosses, and it was usually ~40% back when teams were LESS raw damage focused and bleed did full damage. but how the hell did outis do more than hong lu?

@lesbianhonglu @limbleedupdates I was curious about the actual numbers so I did this run unaware bleed counted to damage, but considering lei heng only has 4239 hp I think you can understand my point.

@anchkiko @limbleedupdates bleed is not 60% of a bleed teams status, especially against bosses that resist statuses. RUPTURE isnt even usually 60% of that teams damage. the only support she really needs is meursetti, but even without him shes still better than ringsang

@lesbianhonglu @limbleedupdates The issue is when 60% of your damage is coming from your status, when your encounter lasts 5 turns tops, and when you dont have other bloodfiends to suppliment her she really doesnt perform at the level she needs to. Ringsang hits more earlier but falls off when its over.

@anchkiko @limbleedupdates she does better damage than everyone on the team except kkheath and depending on the encounter callistolu. she DEFINITELY does better damage than ringsang, who is the only one competing for her slot, and thats what matters

@lesbianhonglu @limbleedupdates Manager don just doesnt do enough damage. Modern status specialists outdamage on everything except maybe her enhanced s3, or if you want to include attack weight her fully enhanced s2-2, but the value she brings outside of that is just incredibly limited. Kk heath alone triples

@limbleedupdates what i dont get is why everybody is assuming manager don is dying just because the other bloodfiends are? even if both of these ids are incredible and replace their bloodfiend counterpart (already a tough ask for meur), nobody is good competition for her spot? shes fine?

@no1doomsoldier @godsdetestation @PMoonconfession You have to be dumb as fucking rocks if you think this would be the case

@godsdetestation @PMoonconfession And wr can still get a different mirror world with valencina. The same way outis has two mirror worlds

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The Thumb continues to carry the torch of having the stupidest hidden boss encounter reward The Middle and the Index ones are useful if you are running those teams, but Middle actually has a team while Index is still growing, so the former I think has a bit more value The Ring-

@BackupFocus @hyojin_en Its because using a macro actively kills the business prospects. Limbus is the only game generous enough to have such a free and non limited sharding system and people with macros can genuinely get away with not worrying about shards from d1 of the season

@hyojin_en It's probably for some future tournament, they need to examine the current best players at mirror dungeon and if they actually did use a macro, or maybe they actually do plan on multi-player content. Unless there is some kinda disadvantage fun wise

i don't particularly care if project moon is going to be anal about enforcing their anti-macro rule. i think its stupid but ultimately idgaf i will say im not a fan of them implementing code to read your inputs to make sure you are playing the game in a non "abnormal" way. especially for a single player game

@Sados22924452 People didnt bat an eye when don quixote got 3 sinking blunt identities in a row

Lame design philosophy is when they’re adding alternative teams and who cares this game is easy as shit Cassetisault and this id will do two different things anyway The actual issue is Meur getting three bleed ids in a row

@a_bingoose @them_failure At the rate these hos units are going maybe she will... it'll probably be ramp up with eye of precog until she uses disposal at max stack to drain it all and return to not having an evade/low auto rolling one.

@them_failure Im going to lose my shits if this Rodya ID also doesn't have an Evade. We are 3 years into the game and she does not have a single one. Thumb Rodya better have the original 26 rolling Evade for how long it took to get one

This is Rodion’s first Identity to tie her hair, wonder why Ishmael gets so many ponytails but Rodion has always just let that shit hang

@amoebatwt To be fair the middle does have quite a bit to talk about as for a finger their powers arent exactly unique... but beyond that they act unlike any other faction in the city.

the ring’s schools are inspired by different art movements, meanwhile the middle east is identical to the south. the only difference we’ve seen is the hos members using swords. it’s one thing if you like them more but how are they more interesting when they only do one thing

@DickPeacock11 She was also canonically immortal for majority of the game. Olivier notes that even though she was nearly all flesh she still wouldn't die from a decapitation

Library of Ruina would’ve been like half the length it is now if Angela was playable Like if she felt like it she could probably one shot almost everyone up to around Urban Nightmare by spamming this move