Anything

I sat down with @dhruvamin, CEO of @anything and one of the sharpest thinkers at the intersection of AI and product. We got into why vibe coding will just be coding, what actually happens when the end user is another agent, why the replacement narrative gets the AI math backwards, and a lot more. 00:00 Intro 01:07 The Pivot From Create to Anything 03:51 Why Anything wins on simplicity, not features 08:23 Who actually builds on Anything 11:17 What a 20-person AI-native team actually looks like 15:01 Product design in the agent era 18:20 The new bottlenecks: distribution and agent-native UX 23:34 Who wins: startups or enterprises? 27:56 What's still being underestimated

Mocha is winding down. After two years, we’ve made the decision to sunset the product. We started with a bet that anyone with an idea should be able to build actual, useful, real working apps with auth, databases, backends, and one-click deploys. We believed the people locked out of building software had some of the best ideas of anyone. And for a lot of you, it worked. Real small business owners and creators built actually useful software with Mocha: customer portals, booking systems, internal tools, side projects that turned into businesses. People who'd never written a line of code, running their work on software they built themselves. That part was real. But the business underneath had its challenges. A combination of high user acquisition costs driven by competition, expensive unit economics due to AI token requirements of the product, and high support costs all compounded into making the business capital intensive. We weren't able to raise the capital to withstand this over the long run. Closing is the right call for our team and our investors. The best part about our journey was you, our users. We care deeply about our users, so we spent real time finding the right home for your apps — and we found one in @anything. They share our philosophy: integrated, opinionated, built for people who describe outcomes and want working software. As a bonus, they support mobile apps, something many of you have been asking us for. Mocha apps will be in good hands there. They've built a one-click migration that ports your apps over and keeps them live. We've tested it. It works. They’re also going to provide dedicated help to anyone looking to migrate over. Timeline: Today: New signups closed. Existing customers, we're here for you. Through July: Migration support and reminders. August 1: Mocha's app builder shuts down. Migration and export tools stay open for 30 days after. Move your apps → anything.com/mocha ($20 in credits to help with post-migration edits) Prefer to export and self-host? Settings → Export. To everyone who built something with Mocha: thank you. Watching what you made was the best part of this journey. The era of idea people and personal software isn't over. It's just beginning. — Nicholas & Ben