Alessandro Natali

@Elvis_Allan_Poe @Mr_spacely777 I studied a one-continent model in school. North and South were considered subcontinents. Idk if something has changed over the last 20 years but often when we say "America" we mean "From Ellesmere to Patagonia".

@Mr_spacely777 I've literally never seen it. The algorithm is feeding you things that anger you.

People will look you dead in the eye and insist Europe is its own continent, then get mad when North Americans say North and South America are separate continents.

@bowtiedbrazil In Italy we say Statunitense in every official and formal context. American it's just the informal term, universally widespread but I don't think Statunitense Is a retarded.

false. I have lived in brazil for a long time now and nobody except leftist professors call them estadounidense. literally everyone says americano and SOMETIMES, but like only 20% of the time, norte-americano it's actually spanish speaking latinos who use the retarded term estadounidenese

@Cruclfer @oreomints111 @LucasMesal92003 @Loudwindow Medieval people were not dirty. People in the 1700s were kinda dirty, though. We are not animals, and even animals seek cleanliness. But there have certainly been more and less hygienic epochs.

@oreomints111 @LucasMesal92003 @archixander @Loudwindow It's almost like they hadn't invented germ theory yet and the people needed to have faith in their medical institutions because their family members were dying. People believe in stupid myths even when there's evidence to the contrary. Myths like medieval euros being dirty.

It's so funny how soooo many historical accounts of nations meeting Europeans for the first time are "they stink" and "why did they refuse to bathe"

@VincenzAnastagi @Andrea_Migone @aledeniz Yes, of course, terms get adapted, shift in meaning, whether positive or negative. The Amish use "English" to refer to the English-speaking outsiders. Eastern Romans and Levantines would call the Western Europeans "Franks" regardless of specific origin.

@archixander @Andrea_Migone @aledeniz The lesson here is that terms and usages get lost in translation and out of context. Europeans often act perplexed when Americans refer themselves or other Americans as being “Italian” or “Irish”etc. In a similar way many Americans find it odd to be called “Anglo-Saxons”.

So that you know, when Anglo-Saxon people complain about us calling you Anglo-Saxons, you feel exactly like the Turks who ask for Turkey to be called Türkiye. It truly feels that cringe. You speak an Anglo-Saxon language, you are wholly a product of Anglo-Saxon culture, you often have plenty of Anglo-Saxon genetics, and even if you do not, it is likely your descendants will gain it eventually. What is even the point of railing against being called Anglo-Saxons? It is absolutely non-derogatory in any language I am familiar with. In fact it is overwhelmingly semantically positive. Anyone with a modicum of culture from the countries using this moniker will naturally use it with no derogatory intention whatsoever.

@Andrea_Migone @VincenzAnastagi @aledeniz There's always the right to self-identity as what you want in the end. I consider myself Sardinian first and Italian as an umbrella/legal term rather than an ethnic one. Many of my fellow Islanders would agree. We are to Italy what Northern Ireland is to Britain. (Kinda not 1:1).

@archixander @VincenzAnastagi @aledeniz Well, I don’t know. I think here we get into a bit of a different area. Ian Paisley famously always referred to himself as an Ulsterman of Scottish origins, never as an Anglo-Saxon. The latter works best today at a higher level than the individual I think.

@VincenzAnastagi @Andrea_Migone @aledeniz There is certainly an ethnic component to how you would use the term in Italian but not necessarily a racial one, in the way a native anglo would define race. Frank Sinatra and Idris Elba could be both referred to as Anglo-Saxon, but not Connor McGregor or Cilian Murphy.

@Andrea_Migone @archixander @aledeniz I think this shows the disconnect insofar as the word “Anglo-Saxon” is not used in English in a cultural or civilizational sense, which is the way it can be used in French and Italian. The two definitions in English are historical and racial.

@LucasMesal92003 @Loudwindow That and the fact that some bathhouses would also moonshine as brothels...not a very good PR

@archixander @Loudwindow I can't speak for Spain and France, but the English associated bathhouses with the plague and abandoned them after the Black Death.

@bradamantemonte @xmau @Tyxar @Misellla1 Probabilmente un cambiamento naturale della lingua, non ho idea da cosa sia influenzato però...

@xmau @Tyxar @Misellla1 Posso assicurare che gli alunni della mia classe usano la stessa struttura. Aggiungo che non avevo mai sentito una cosa del genere negli anni passati. Questa è psicolinguistica. Sociolinguistica.

Mia figlia Sophia, ormai alla fine della prima elementare svizzera, commette moltissimi errori di ortografia, parla un italiano inquinato da mostruosità sintattiche ticinesoidi e se le chiedi 3+4, risponde 8 e con 2+3 risponde 6. Ho voluto lasciar fare, come aveva suggerito la maestra (“il nuovo metodo dà risultati nel lungo termine!” — quello nel quale un noto economista ricordava che saremo tutti morti). In estate sistemerò le sue lacune, che poi sono le stesse di tutta la classe, adottando il buon vecchio metodo italiano del 1972. Conclusione: il sistema scolastico pubblico svizzero è, come mi avevano già anticipato alcuni amici con figli, roba da terzo mondo, peggio che nelle Filippine. Uno schifo totale! cc @spud85 @Joe911S

@SvanGurra @Nordix_XY That happened to many languages in Italy as well. Sardinian is facing imminent extinction because of that. Back then, people didn't realize (or didn't want to) that children can be easily taught two or three languages without much of a struggle.

@archixander @Nordix_XY Same for Swedes. The local dialects where to hard to understand so the teachers literally beat the dialect out of the schoolkids if they didn’t speak the standardized Swedish we speak today.

Does anyone know why Italians don't speak Italian in NYC anymore? It's been a large community there since the 1800s and it's not like they're too dumb to not write papers or have their own radio stations. Italian seems to be completely gone while yiddish is a small minority.

@Tom_Rowsell @expatanon In Italian we use it to refer to people of Anglo descent from Britain and the former colonies (US included). It's implied that it doesn't refer to the Irish, the Welsh, the Quebecois, the Gaels of Scotland...It usually has a slightly positive tinge to it, it's not derogatory.

@expatanon To them it means america and england together

It’s common to hear the French refer to “les anglo saxons” in a way you would never, ever hear an actual Anglo Saxon speak of their own identity.

@VincenzAnastagi @aledeniz It's part of the WASP acronym. And that is self referred. I agree it can sometimes be used too broadly, but it's not incorrect. It's also a way to avoid calling the Americans "British". Also, one can be British and Celtic, so "Anglo-Saxon" (or even Anglo) makes sense to me.

@aledeniz To be clear, I’m not referring the use of “Anglo-Saxon” to refer to pre-1066 England. That’s perfectly fine. I’m referring to its use today to refer to countries and cultures that speak English, follow English common law etc. That usage is a neologism.

@lynxgirlpaws It's Delaware, of course

This is funny because one of them is actually correct but I won't tell you which

@Interrobang_2 Based Delaware

@sweetseaslug Yeah but my question is: why is this guy dressed like it's 1830 when this series is set in the 1780s/1790s? Is he a time traveller?

@B0mbadiI @cancel_commies @LARVAMOLT It's "joh". When you see a "c" or "g" and an "i" followed by another vowel, that "i" is there just to signal that the "g" is soft, like in Giorgia, or Giuseppe. It's kinda like the "h" in "chocolate", in Italian it's "cioccolato" and again the "i" is there to make the "c" soft.

@cancel_commies @archixander @LARVAMOLT So the difference is it it's jo or ji-o?

@__pigsy Sardinia should be the same color as Corsica

Here is my definitive oppression map. No, I will not be accepting any critiques or revisions. Thank you!

@neolatyno Corsica is mostly mountainous and it doesn't have as many coastal Mediterranean areas as Elba, probably. But I can't believe it's completely absent when Sardinia is just 11 km away

Where i’m from this kind of palm (Chamaerops humilis) is so ubiquitous on streets, parks, dunes, hills, and beaches that i’ve always thought it was a super normal encounter for everyone in the South, but it turns out he’s a picky eater and only lives here, here, here, and there, on the Western side of Our Sea. I also wonder why he said: Elba? Yes. 🙂🏝️ Corsica? Absolutely not. ✋😤🌴🚫