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@Gs_shekhawatt Proto Vedic and Proto Iranic division happened during that time Proto Iranics are from Surbanya Alakul ( and western horizon of Andronovo ) Proto Vedics are from Eastern horizon Also there is some Eastern Andronovo related groups that Assimilated by Semoyedics

agree here Andronovo/Srubnaya are mainly Z2123, Z2125, Z2124 Q-branch, which is not commonly found among Rajputs We are mostly L657 which is missing from all of them Z2123, Q seen in some Ror Jats Brahmins but at very low frequencies But l657 it’s also missing from fatny..

@Gs_shekhawatt Proto Vedic is descendants of Sintashta and Patopavka Imagine We have an Pre proto indo iranian group that is Fatyanovo and Abashevo culture Then we have Proto indo iranian that is Sintashta and Patopavka and other cultures from same period

@Gs_shekhawatt Kuram vilas padhiye jaipur riyasat ki

@arya_charwaha Interesting, If you have any sources, send in DMs, I’ve got no clue “kuram” what it is

Anyone have any real source about Kachwaha before Gwalior/Narwar? Where were they? Any inscription, anything so far? old history of them before the 5th century Does anyone know anything?

@Gs_shekhawatt I'm sure Kachhawah Gupt decedent hi h

@Gs_shekhawatt I think kachhaghata linked to gupt smarat

@JatRaaj11 @LSinghShekhawat Jab se delhi rajput ke hath se nili to vaha sirf doodh dahi pakdane wale aur famrming karke unko anaj dene wale hi ruke thai

@arya_charwaha @LSinghShekhawat Kya alien bhai.. 😂😂😂

राजपूतों ने दिल्ली बसाई और ख़ुद उत्तराखंड,हिमाचल और बिहार में बस गए कुछ राजस्थान चले गए दिल्ली जाट और गुर्जरों को गिफ्ट दे दी …

@JatRaaj11 @LSinghShekhawat Tum kahena kya chahte ho ? Delhi mughal era me rajdhani rahi lekin rajput mughal era me delhi me kaha ruke ? Saltnat kal se ukhad chuke thai chouhan me ncr me mundawar later neemrana etc for bana kiya delhi ke 100Km ka region chhod diya tha

Pakistan_Loebanr_IA_o She can be modeled as 60% IVCp (Gonur_BA_2) and 40% sintashta.

@JatRaaj11 @LSinghShekhawat Mughal ka capital agra tha maximum time

@arya_charwaha @LSinghShekhawat Alien.. fir kya karan the ki mugal kaal mein sab wahi rahe.. koi ni hila apni jagah se.. koi to raaz hai jo chipa rahe ho.. 😂😂

@0007ferrero @Indo__Aryan Yeah andronovo have more q haplo

@Indo__Aryan This Pashtun has good amount of AASI but has blue eyes Blue eyes etc are independent from IVC admixture clearly which has AASI. What matters is which is your source of steppe early cordedware or Andronovo..

@0007ferrero @Indo__Aryan That means slavic is closer to indo Aryan bcz fatyanovo decedent,other than iranic pamiri pashtun etc

@Indo__Aryan You're arguing uselessly for the sake of it! Pashtuns also have Steppe + IVC, they have good amount of AASI too.. Steppe_MLBA source for Indians & Central Asians is DIFFERENT. You can tell from the father bloodlines. There is a good 1000 years gap. x.com/0007ferrero/st…

@scionofkalhans Bhai western rajput Gujjar ethinic hi h as race wo Gujjar ke close jyada h na ki purbiya rajput ya khas rajput ke ,isliye aap eastern part ki history par focus kariye ,eastern aur western UP tak rajput aheer ke close north western aheer ke jabki north West aheer aur Gujjar close

"...my identification of Juzr with Guzr or Gujar, which is a very numerous tribe... This visually points out the exact spot where the colonial-era author incorrectly maps the geographical term (Juzr/Gurjara) directly to the modern pastoral demographic (the Gujar tribe), treating it as an ancestral ethnonym rather than a territorial designation. Primary lithic records from the early medieval period define Gurjara strictly as a geographical territory (janapada), not an ethnonym or caste: • The Ragholi Plates (8th Century CE): This inscription records the conquest of the Gurjara country alongside other established realms like Kāśi and Pauṇḍra. It treats Gurjara entirely as a territorial boundary. • Geographical Nomenclature: The specific physical region encompassing parts of modern Rajasthan and northern Gujarat was historically documented as Gurjaratrā or Gurjaradeśa. • Royal Titulature: Dynastic titles found in contemporary inscriptions, such as Gurjareśvara or Gurjaranātha (Lord of Gurjara), denote sovereignty over a physical landmass. This is structurally identical to territorial titles like Lord of Malwa or Lord of Kalinga. The writer's assumption projects a modern sociological identity onto an ancient geographical designation. Epigraphic evidence confirms that in antiquity, the term denoted a specific location on the map, rather than a demographic lineage. Kab tak writer opinion pe RR karegaa!!!! 😆🫡

@scionofkalhans Rajput abhi north indian caste h aur purbiya ,khas pahadi aur Gujjar ethnic h ,koi bhi rajput Dravid aur Aryan ethnicity ka nahh bacha ,jat Aryan ethnicity ke h jabki south indian castes Dravid ethnic

अरे मूर्ख !!! गुर्जर लोग यानी people of गुर्जर देश हुआ जब इतिहास में गूजर जाति का जिक्र तक नहीं है उधर एक भी गांव नहीं है तो तुम नाम के मिलते जुलते से किसी को भी बाप बोल दोगे क्या ? इंग्लिश की बात तू तो मत कर भाई गुर्जर गुजरात के लोगो के लिए प्रक्युट हुआ है गुजरात में गुर्जर राजपूत गुर्जर ब्राह्मण गुर्जर जैन गुर्जर बनिया गुर्जर कुम्हार गुर्जर सुथार गुर्जर कुनबी आदि जाति मिलती है पर गुजर नाम की जाति आज तक नहीं मिलती ना गुजरात में गुजर जाती कोई जानता भी है ….. इतना नासमझ मत बन भाई बे मतलब का इतिहास जोड़ तोड़ के ज़्यादा दिन नहीं चलेगा !! Note: No pastoral Gujar (originally Gochar) of North India has been found in Gujarat to date. The Gujar clan of Rajputs, even in inscriptions and literature, if we reject ‘Gurjar’ as a geographical term, was never referred to as a caste but as a clan of the Kshatriya caste !!!! (“Gurjara” = from Gurjara country), much like “Maharashtrian Brahman” or “Kannada Brahman,” not as a rigid jati name. Geographical-historical (linked to Gurjarāṣṭra/Gujarat) Gurjara != Gochar ( nowadays Gujar Caste ) Source: Indian caste by Wilson, John, 1804-1875 ऐकडेमिक में भी उन्हें राजपूत ही बोला गया है आगे तुम्हारी मर्जी!!!!

@scionofkalhans Gujjar ki galti bss history claim karne ki h jo ki galat h historical samrat Gurjar ethnic kewal rajput class thai unke decedent bhi maru gurjara region ke rajput hi h

@scionofkalhans Pratihar k vanshaj south west rajasthan me h bheenmal ke dewal padihar ,mandor ke inda padihar lekin wo aaj bhi gujjar tirbe ke jyada close h race me na ki purbiya ya khas pahadi ke bas Gujjar tribe h aur rajput class ye historical era se pahele alag ho gaye

@scionofkalhans Gurjar ethnicity h jese purviya aur khas pahadi ethnicity, haryana ke jat/ Aryan ethnicity, pratihar south west rajasthan ke ruler thai wo Gurjar ethnic thai na ki purbiya ya khas pahadi ya Aryan ,Gurjar ethnic sindhi baluch type tribes thi

@dheersen @scionofkalhans @47__Lambardarr Lekin Gujjar tribe western rajput ke sabse close h ,Gujjar caste se dhay rakhi jati thi ,Gujjar aur rajput ek hi race h itna confirm h lekin ye historical era me alag nahi huye jesa ki Gujjar ka claim h ye ancient history me alag ho chuke thai

@scionofkalhans @47__Lambardarr प्रतिहारो की प्राचीनतम राजधानी भीनमाल में गुज्जर आबादी नहीं हैं न ही मंडोर में है, प्रतिहार सम्राटों की राजधानी कन्नौज में गुज्जर जाति है न अब है न कभी थी। गुज्जर जाति न तो प्राचीन गुर्जरात्रा (पाली जालौर सिरोही, आनर्त) में मिलती, न ही आधुनिक गुजरात राज्य में गुज्जर हैं

The kings of Bharuch and Nandpuri were Gurjars themselves; they had a separate dynasty and had no connection with the Pratiharas. And if Gurjar is a region, then what is Lata? Use a little common sense, brother. The founder of ASI had already clarified the word “Gurjara.”

@dheersen @BoyJoolex18 @Scion_of_Agni Bhai ye Gurjar vansh hi veergurjar ya birgurjar vansh h jo ajkal bargurjar ya badgurjar kehalta h

@BoyJoolex18 @Scion_of_Agni भरूच नंदीपुरी के गुर्जरनृपति वंश शासकों का कोई संबंध प्रतिहारो से होने का कोई साक्ष्य नहीं मिलता। इन्होंने अपनी वंशावली महाभारत के कर्ण से मिलाई है, पूरी संभावना है कि ये भी कोई स्थानसूचक क्षेत्रीय वंश होगा, जिसका आज की गुज्जर जाति से कोई संबंध नहीं

Debunk #1 Gurjara of Bhadoch Claimed descendent from Karna of Mahabharata and Pratihara Rajput of Mandore and Kannauj Claimed descendent from Lakshaman. Neither Dadda i or his successor omitted the name of Harishchandra. Gurjara of Bhadoch are not Pratihara.