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Gopala the Elephant
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Gopala the Elephant
@b0rtcask1
Vaishnava reject. Sri Vidya curious. Cultural Catholic. Actually Mexican.
Devi Dham Katılım Aralık 2018
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@AndrewBurch14 @pluant Most of the High Masses I've attended recently I was in the schola lol.
Also, I understand Latin so that's kinda distracting if I'm trying to pray the rosary during Mass. Usually I whisper into my beads if there's bad acoustics and I can't hear anything.
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@b0rtcask1 @pluant There’s enough time for it at a High Mass (so long as you don’t worry about following all the silent prayers of the priest) even if you sing all your parts of the Ordinary and follow the readings + audible prayers.
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It’s cultural prejudicial, but it’s also this odd legalism where absolutely everything must be codified, with a right way and a wrong way and naught else.
LB236@thelb236
This is one step from "It's wrong to pray the Rosary at Mass" to "If you can't afford a hand missal to follow the prayers of the Latin Mass, you're doing it wrong" or "If you attend a Novus Ordo in a language you're not familiar with and you can't respond, you're doing it wrong" under the logic on display here. There truly is a class of Catholics who cannot comprehend that the Church exists beyond just the middle class Anglosphere in which most are presumed to be literate. So tiresome.
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@JohnIrishAnglcn I was bad at it but a lot of other seminarians managed quite well.
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@b0rtcask1 How did playing soccer in a cassock work?
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When people are really confused as to why Vatican II happened and why the convents emptied I always advise watching the Australian miniseries The Brides of Christ set around the Council. It's really accurate as to what happened imo. You can find it on YouTube.
Catholic Conclave@cathconclave
TRUE STORY 90,000 nuns immediately left their convents following the adoption of the revolutionary changes of Vatican II; the changes were read out in every convent; everything that made the convents holy places was removed; TODAY, there is nothing but desolation!
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@jjbauer15 I guess the Dalai Lama is actually the reincarnation of the Bodhisattva of Compassion 🤷
youtu.be/y5ZL1IopECI?si…
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Summary of the responses:
- "The SSPX's existence is the miracle and they are the first in history this kind of miracle exists for"
- "You're gay"
Jacob Bauer@jjbauer15
St. Francis de Sales lists two ways in which someone can authenticate their mission: 1. Ordinary, by the hierarchy — "The Church sent me and can be proven with my paperwork" 2. Extraordinary, by God — "God sent me and can be proven with miracles" Which does the SSPX provide?
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@jjbauer15 I guess Orthodoxy is right then 🤷
orthodoxhawaii.org/icons
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St. Francis de Sales lists two ways in which someone can authenticate their mission:
1. Ordinary, by the hierarchy — "The Church sent me and can be proven with my paperwork"
2. Extraordinary, by God — "God sent me and can be proven with miracles"
Which does the SSPX provide?
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@JK08467264 I was in the Society of St. Pius X, look it up.
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@b0rtcask1 Well, it was a reconstruction, a reasonable facsimile. The late 90’s/early 2000’s didn’t have many traditional religious orders that had much continuity with the past. And the “shame culture” is like a “boogie man” that is always discussed, but never can be articulated. Odd
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@JK08467264 Shame culture is when someone did something twenty years ago & they're basically shunned & their existence is never mentioned in the family. Super common, everyone had stories in the old days about this.
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@PaulinusOfTrier I've never prayed them and if you ask me to name them I'd probably come up with two or three and not in the right order. 😎
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The artificial introduction of the Luminous Mysteries is quite a good illustration of the two mentalities which divide the Church.
On the one hand, we have a practice which is connected both to the reciting of 150 psalms and to the vision of St Dominic. It has evolved with the addition of the petition, and following fatima, the common but optional practice of addiing the Fatima prayer. But the basic structure of 150 hail Marys, divided into 15 mysteries divided into a trinity of joyful, sorrowful and glorious which so well reflect the experience of Catholic life remained unchanged for seven centuries.
On the other, you have the guys who always think they've got a better idea. So out goes the connection with the psalms, out goes the rosary hallowed by Marian revelation, and in comes a set of no doubt worthy meditations, designed by enthusiasts to make sense of the gap in Jesus' ministry perceived in the original mysteries. Of course the Pope who introduced them beatified the man who thought them up. Of course they are optional. But somehow, one more aspect of the old faith has been pushed out of the doorway, and one more division of the church ushered in.
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For those who didn't read the thread, here's a translation:
I want a way where I can consume anything, everything and live without rules but shield myself in the name of ancient tantra and esoteric mysticism.
Ajātashatru 将軍@revyy_zenin
-ISCKON -BAPS - BrahmaKumari - Gaudiya & Other Fringe Vaishnavites - Madhavacharya's Vaishnavism - Yellow Baba ( Premanand) - Bageshwar Dham - Bhagwat Katha Karke Dhandha Karnewale ( Jaya Kishori, Aniruddhacharya ) These all are Bhikhari Bhakti/ Intellectually Submissive Retarded/ Superstitions. These are Anti-Hindu Organizations ( Psyops used to degrade Hinduism)
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Sem músculos é impossível pensar corretamente. Śaṅkara, Abhinavagupta, Kumarila, Kapila, etc. eram todos musculosos, com peitoral bem definido esculpido por Yoga com a mente.
Já os filósofos nāstika são um bando de magricelas esqueléticas afeminadas, como o vagabundo doente mental esquerdista do Vātsyāyana.
A falta de músculos é também um dos inúmeros motivos naturais que fazem a raça nāstika produzir dalits, enquanto nós, āstikas, produzimos Śaṅkaras
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Do NOT pray the rosary during mass. This is inappropriate and against church teaching.
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@pluant I'm old enough to remember when Fr. Ripperger was just some FSSP priest who had an interesting website & one or two interesting essays out there. How the heck did we get here?
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When the scrupulous start thinking little Billy is possessed because he likes sweets, we’ll have the latest reminder of why traditional exorcists didn’t engage in what Ripperger is doing.
Fractured Light@FracturedLight0
Father Chad Ripperger tells Tucker Carlson sugar is a big addiction demons drive in people who are possessed. “I’m not surprised even a little bit. I’m just surprised you said it out loud.”
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I did play soccer in a cassock, we were warned against "particular friendships," & castigated about our deportment etc. So I got to see in miniature the religious life in its before & after stage, as well as the "shame culture" that drove much of pre-Vatican II Catholicism.
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I don't know why the algorithm blessed this post w/ its attention but I will say by way of explanation that I was a seminarian in a traditionalist order at the turn of the century so I got to experience the Mad Max wasteland version of traditional religious life seen in this clip
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Three generations of a family and two generations of Thuc bishops who no longer speak with each other.
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I see your Bach and Handel, and raise you to Palestrina, Monteverdi, Byrd, Tallis, Vivaldi, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Liszt, Bruckner, Poulenc, Elgar, Messiaen, ... #catholic
Andrew Beck@AndrewBeckUSA
Bach and Handel were both devout Protestants.
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Probably the best piece written for string quartet in the last 50 years at least imo
youtu.be/t7VoOERoewE?si…
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@urpflanze_ Last time I sat down and read the Epistle to the Romans I kinda thought Martin Luther had a point ngl.
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"The Epistle to the Romans, which I'm sure most catholics have read"
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