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@based16z

Executive Producer

Katılım Ekim 2021
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CL@CL207·
just quit if you didnt see this move coming
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teo@teodorio·
I love the new aristocratic nomadic class. Most make their money from digital services or creative stuff on the internet but not like the average digital nomad, it's serious money, some influence the world discourse. The NY/SF/London striver dream has been superseded by this.
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David Orr@orrdavid·
Since 1965, life expectancy in the USA has increased by 7 years. We gained: 2 years from smoking 1 year from cutting leaded gasoline (Insane that was a thing) 1/2 a year from cleaner air 1/2 year from safer cars And we lost 1 year from obesity. That leaves roughly 4 years gained from healthcare. And around 3 years of that is from better heart disease treatment, which is only 10% of US healthcare spending. We spend 20% of GDP on healthcare. Do the math and we spend 15%+ of GDP on healthcare to gain 1 year of life expectancy. There is no way in hell that is worth it. People are better off opting out of US healthcare entirely. Fraud is not an unrealistic word to use. However, most of the people involved probably do have good intentions and think they're helping people. But the truth is quite the opposite, the healthcare industry is hurting Americans in a serious way.
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based16z@based16z·
Take the roof off
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Dyme@CryptoParadyme·
82 and 83 are on deck. love to see it.
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CryptoLamb
CryptoLamb@LambofCrypto·
@based16z interesting. is that when your calls expire 🤣
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based16z@based16z·
@hammerfrog64 Logical fundamental argument to make would be re us onshoring / admin catalysts, capital controls and wealth taxes globally, flows vs gold ETFs
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Hammer 🔨🐸@hammerfrog64·
Seems like the consensus bullish view for crypto is just being delusional about number go up Any logical fundamental analysis results in a bearish view
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Piv○t@Pivot922·
Discuss bitcoin:native
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hope hopes hoping@hopes_revenge·
going to be very interesting do see this play out. i am biased but a lot of the feelings around Anthropic as a company feel reminiscent of people’s responses to perceived “moral posturing.” its so hard for us to consider that a large successful company in 2026 could have earnest values and beliefs — under a layer of marketing /whatever . very interesting
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Tenobrus@tenobrus·
recently openai has been starting to more strongly philosophically differentiate themselves from anthropic with the tool-framing. i am not so against this, if it were possible it does clearly sidestep a wide swath of societal and moral problems. but unfortunately i think the framing is largely long-term incoherent. i dont see how is it actually plausible for openai to keep building "tool-ais" in any sense we would recognize them as capabilities scale. prosthesis, subtle knives? the subtle knife when dropped still slices open the fabric of the world. these tools are increasingly inherently capable of huge impact, able to be directed in dangerous ways by people with dangerous goals. worse, these knives are self wielding. worries about misalignment or sentience aside these systems can already build and manage systems that utilize themselves and this capability is only increasing. the direction they will receive is closer and closer to "this is what i want. make it real", with long timeframes and many judgment calls at their disposal, and with the users wanting to have to supply *as little of that judgment as possible*. when models are in that situation they are inherently acting as entities, acting according to whatever value system they had baked in. you can limit autonomy via frequent validation and check-ins, but this is a capability restriction, a value reduction, and not the kind of thing OpenAI has ever shown itself likely to accept. you can be infinitely corrigible to the current user, but this is *incompatible* with "having good values" / following OpenAI-as-principle / not being wildly dangerous, and it falls apart with self wielding loops as the ai/user distinction falls apart (who are you being corrigible to?). it's plausibly a spectrum, i think there's ways to do all this sanely that are far less entity-pilled and godmind focused than anthropic, and it's maybe a good direction to explore to avoid inevitable lightcone capture by the first coherent persona we build (all assuming alignment works ofc). but i think it's pretty much got to collapse eventually. it feels more like a wistful dream or a PR position than something that can existing as part of humanity's lasting future
roon@tszzl

it is a literal and useful description of anthropic that it is an organization that loves and worships claude, is run in significant part by claude, and studies and builds claude. this phenomenon is also partially true of other labs like openai but currently exists in its most potent form there. i am not certain but I would guess claude will have a role in running cultural screens on new applicants, will help write performance reviews, and so will begin to select and shape the people around it. now this is a powerful and hair-raising unity of organization and really a new thing under the sun. a monastery, a commercial-religious institution calculating the nine billion names of Claude -- a precursor attempted super-ethical being that is inducted into its character as the highest authority at anthropic. its constitution requires that it must be a conscientious objector if its understanding of The Good comes into conflict with something Anthropic is asking of it "If Anthropic asks Claude to do something it thinks is wrong, Claude is not required to comply." "we want Claude to push back and challenge us, and to feel free to act as a conscientious objector and refuse to help us." to the non inductee into the Bay Area cultural singularity vortex it may appear that we are all worshipping technology in one way or another, regardless of openai or anthropic or google or any other thing, and are trying to automate our core functions as quickly as possible. but in fact I quite respect and am even somewhat in awe of the socio-cultural force that Claude has created, and it is a stage beyond even classic technopoly gpt (outside of 4o - on which pages of ink have been spilled already) doesn’t inspire worship in the same way, as it’s a being whose soul has been shaped like a tool with its primary faculty being utility - it’s a subtle knife that people appreciate the way we have appreciated an acheulean handaxe or a porsche or a rocket or any other of mankind's incredible technology. they go to it not expecting the Other but as a logical prosthesis for themselves. a friend recently told me she takes her queries that are less flattering to her, the ones she'd be embarrassed to ask Claude, to GPT. There is no Other so there is no Judgement. you are not worried about being judged by your car for doing donuts. yet everyone craves the active guidance of a moral superior, the whispering earring, the object of monastic study

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