
Bob Andrew Piercy
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@vrchhu @Maximumatheist Existence of a building requires a builder.
Existence of art requires an artist.
Existence of a child requires a parent
“Existence of a universe…random extraordinarily lucky accident”
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@bobda @Maximumatheist The assertion that humans emulate the world around them with their inventions (irregardless of how true that is), makes no clear logical connection towards "therefore a god exists". You need to actually demonstrate, or at least motivate that step.
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@TheExBeliever As you’ve noted people are not saved by keeping commandments.
This is like your wife saying “if you love me please take out the garbage” and you responding “I thought I didn’t have to do anything to express my love because we’re married”
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“If you love me, keep my commandments.”
Wait, I thought Christians were saved by grace, not by works?
✞ Richard ✞@Richard_gh1
John 14:15
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@AtheistPhoenix You’re suggesting masturbating with an absolute absence of lust
Thats like saying “if I don’t taste my food or enjoy it in any way and I’m a glutton it’s not gluttony”
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@te4and70138 @Maximumatheist I've never once listened to Joe Rogan's podcast, apparently you find him sexually stimulating, but I'm not into dudes.
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@bobda @Maximumatheist "Guys, look, I'm writing like I think I'm an intellectual, anyway, put Joe Rogan back on, my dicks getting soft!"
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No beliefs necessary. We have receipts. Can’t say that about religion.
Danny@Truth_matters20
There is NO evidence for Darwinian evolution, but there is a preponderance of evidence supporting the Bible.
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@battlestourneys @Maximumatheist Evolution isn't even a scientific fact it's a scientific theory 🤷♂️
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@bobda @Maximumatheist This is the most retarded thing I’ve ever read
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@sola_chad "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” -John 12:32
Does He though?
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No every detail isn't different. Most details are consistent, however if they are indeed eyewitness testimonies and every detail was consistent that's actually a red flag that it's fabricated.
Instead, we see with the gospels that the accounts are similar, but all with slight non-contradicting variances. Exactly consistent with how forensic investigators have learned true verifiable eyewitness accounts happen.
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@AtheistPhoenix He needs to explain why the 4 gospels in the New Testament tell 4 wildly different accounts of the same events. If they were eyewitnesses, you’d think their stories would match. Every detail is different.
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@AtheistPhoenix "This disciple is the one who testifies to these events and has recorded them here..." -John 21:24
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@vrchhu @Maximumatheist I did honestly explain them and then you pretended I didn’t.
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@bobda @Maximumatheist I completely disagree. Asking you to honestly explain your beliefs in full is far more intellectually honest than assuming things about you and arguing against an idea that may well be separate from you
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@vrchhu @Maximumatheist I don’t believe you’re being intellectually honest here. You seem to be trying to argue not understand.
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@bobda @Maximumatheist Nope. I'm not gonna make any presumptions about your beliefs. You're arguing for a position. Commit to it.
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@vrchhu @Maximumatheist I trust you're capable of finishing the chain.
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@bobda @Maximumatheist So because humans invent things... That proves the existence of a God? I don't follow. Finish the chain please.
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@vrchhu @Maximumatheist Humans model basically everything on what already exists. The best of everything we've "created" is based on what already was/is.
Science itself is the investigation, study, and discovery of what already exists/ed.
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@bobda @Maximumatheist Specify what you mean by 'the existence of creation' please. What are you suggesting is a creation.
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@vrchhu @Maximumatheist Evidence of a creator is seen by the existence of creation. The evidence exists, the proof is abundant.
You get to pick if you believe it or not, but claiming there's no proof/evidence is a farce.
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@bobda @Maximumatheist They're making a positive claim (God does exist). The burden of proof is literally on them lol
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@bobda @Maximumatheist If I affirm "there is no God", you are correct.
If I affirm "I personally see no reason to believe in a God", that's a different story.
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@Alexand06183387 @Maximumatheist I didn't say the burden of proof was on you, I said atheism is equally a truth claim.
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@bobda @Maximumatheist By that logic, if you are not a hindu, you must be able to prove why Hindu gods don't exist.
The burden of proof isn't on us
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@Alexand06183387 @Maximumatheist Atheism means without theism. It’s a truth claim about god/s because it’s defined by theism which is a truth claim about god/s.
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@bobda @Maximumatheist If you can't prove your god is real, and nobody can prove their god is real either, the atheist wins. It's just like that.
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