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@Sam__SFC Yes that is the question, and if he’s been doing it a lot as well, I’d be surprised if he was there much longer

@boroliam1 Yeah Eckert is in trouble. I suspect if we do get to play the final it'll be his last game. DId he just know, or was he the chief instigator is the quesiton. If he can claim to have been told after the fact he *might* get away with it, but I doubt it

Yet again, nobody knows what Southampton are being found guilty of so this is a fruitless question #SaintsFC

@Sam__SFC And who was involved, manager must of known, surely

@boroliam1 By all accounts the evidence is a statement so doubt it. Will be fascinating to find out what it says, whatever the outcome I'm sure the details of the decision will be poured over in excruciating detail. Is there any evidence at all? Is it just a question of believing him?

@Sam__SFC Yeah I agree, seems systematic, be interesting to see the outcome, can’t see it being tomorrow, Monday possibly, outcome then details a few days later I think

@boroliam1 Nor had anyone else but like Salt his linkedin has been deleted, seems pretty clear it's him. Saints aren't 100% sure he won't screw them, EFL are using him to pursue expulsion we think. For what it's worth I think it's been repeated most likely, but can it be proven?

@Sam__SFC Depends what evidence he has, emails? messages?

@boroliam1 He was a 'first team set piece analyst' here. Who knows what that evidence includes, interesting he's submitting written evidence only. Who knows what it says, but I think 'why are you coming out with this now' is a fair question which presumably can't be asked.

@Sam__SFC Not heard of him before

@boroliam1 Even if we could pull off a lone wolf defence we'd still be guilty it'd just be an extremely lenient punishment. Whistleblower is widely understood to be a guy called Jason Taylor, not sure what his position was at Boro but he left you for Saints in October

@Sam__SFC I agree, I really do

@boroliam1 It's an absolute nightmare. EFL must have been desperately hoping you got past us

@Sam__SFC This could go on a long time with multiple cases.

@boroliam1 If we've gone up I think that will mean we haven't been found to have spied on anyone else, as imo proof of that would result in expulsion. But you're right, if we were found to have done that, those teams could pursue. Do Wrexham have a case as well? Derby? Millwall? Oxford?

@Sam__SFC Unless as you say they go on the lone wolf defence, but maybe the evidence is there to say it’s not, which seems like the case, wonder who the whistleblower is and what information is there?

@boroliam1 I don't think Saints have ever intended to claim they're not guilty of the charge. Some of the allegations made in the media and we're led to believe possibly suggested by Boro in the case they will dispute, but the actual charge of filming we have no choice but to admit

@Sam__SFC Depends on the financial implications and evidence, if the EFL don’t bring into other clubs being spied on, if they have, then no doubt that will be pursued by Boro and the clubs involved, then that puts the competition in doubt, very messy

@boroliam1 You'll make lots of noise I'm sure but I don't know how much we'll care. Can't hold the media attention forever, no matter what league we're playing next season there'll be a big inquest for SR when we know and calls for blood but if we've gone up fans will forgive them

@Sam__SFC Yes they accepted it but not denied anything either, wouldn’t you do that though if you weren’t guilty?

@boroliam1 Saints have all but said they won't contest the charge, only some claims about the extent of it. We've never denied we did it

@Sam__SFC I have no doubt it won’t stop for a long time this, it’s not about us replacing you either.

@boroliam1 Boro will come at us and the EFL I'm sure, my understanding is you are not allowed to sue us but you can go for arbitration via the EFL. We'd do a settlement but I'm not sure Gibson is actually interested in anything other than trying to burn us

@smorgy13 Please explain? Then I will go

@smorgy13 Not sure a Southampton fan can have credibility in a sentence but hey ho

Removing every Boro fan now who appears on my timeline..the whinging, whining and Oscar winning victim performances have clouded their reasoning..they’ve completely lost credibility and their sense of humour.. back to watching FAFO clips and Fesshole.. what a relief ! #SaintsFC

@Sam__SFC I agree, think the statement today is on the back of that, the key is the end line, this could go on and on legally , the EFL should of put the outcome in when they put the rules in, but they didn’t 🙄

@boroliam1 If we're found to have done it all season it'll be worse than this, but I think if it's limited to this incident we're looking at a fine and points deduction. I suspect whatever happens the rules will be tweaked to have a punishment this Summer

@Sam__SFC We have leaked previously, to what extent of validity I don’t know, you have been tight lipped, which surprises me, if it wasn’t true just come out and say that, silence is deafening

@boroliam1 I think it's pretty clear from reading their articles the NE journos have been briefed by the club. There's nothing wrong with that but there's nobody else who'd feed them that information. Saints bizarrely tight lipped - implication to journos was they think we'll be playing

@Sam__SFC My thoughts are, there has clearly been spying, rules were put in place after Leeds, the question what fo the EFL do to prevent it? If it’s not a deterrent and the punishment is say 500k fine, there will be drones all over training grounds because it’s worth gamble of promotion.

@boroliam1 Look no serious Saints fan thinks we should get away with this scot free. But if all that is proven is the incident on Thursday kicking us out would be ridiculous. Obviously it's impossible for me t be objective but I'd think really a deduction would need proof of conspiracy

@Sam__SFC The only statement Boro have put out is today, there has been rumours I’ve heard which aren’t true, voice recordings I’ve heard from both sides, “I know this person who said” all nonsense

@boroliam1 It's not ok because he's used an iphone I just think not everything in the Craig Hope, Dom Shaw and Luke Edwards reports should be taken at 100% face value given he was meant to have "professional" equipment, which defo isn't a phone, and a microphone that could pick up Hellberg

@Sam__SFC And to what extent of information did he gather? hard to quantify but still taken into account, shouldn’t be there

@Sam__SFC An iPhone is very useful to be fair, I mean what is professional surveillance equipment from that distance?

@Sam__SFC Yeah he wasn’t the best at hiding, that’s for sure

@boroliam1 Have you seen the photo? He's clearly not very good at it. Wouldn't be a huge shock if they tried it for the first time given it's a playoff. It's also not on us to prove we haven't done it. Whether the whistleblower will be an issue we don't know

@Sam__SFC More to this I mean

@boroliam1 Boro are extremely confident it's been deleted as per the initial reports you briefed. Not sure you'll be able to prove there was a sporting advantage. We should still be punished for the attempt and if it was sanctioned high up the club bans may well be in order