@JeremyM76545385 great question! personally preference would be miles’ 2nd great quintet, but I think the jazz messengers better fits the way I was curating the list
@Descient2024 Fair, but I’m pretty much focusing on the 70s output for P-Funk. Very much a band / collective feeling then. Dan still feels like a duo with backing musicians.
@brynnorelse Same thing can be said about funkadelic and they belong on here, their rotation changes but it’s still George Clinton (even now in 2026 although he’s immobile and just sits on the stage with aura)
@mighty_joe_moon I pay my rent by performing jazz music. I think Jazz and the blues are americas greatest cultural contribution. I would rather listen to Nefertiti than half of the bands on here, but including a swath of jazz bands on the list defeats what makes the prompt fun for me.
@mighty_joe_moon I think the spirit of my list is about specific bands effect on band culture in America and their cumulative legacy. Once jazz exits the popular music spaces of dance halls I think it becomes part of a different, greater conversation.
Comedown Machine is one of the worst albums I have ever heard in my entire life. Especially Call it Fate, Call it Karma. Bottom 10 Strokes songs, although maybe not anymore this awful new record takes up all 10 spots
@morganfield62 Im not a big grunge fan either but I think for influence they decently deserve the spot. I take the stooges over the Ramones, and I think Motown and Springsteen are fucking amazing but don’t really fit the conditions of the list.
@brynnorelse True but the grunge era was mostly forgettable and a miserable time for music. I lived thru it and everyone was just kind of depressed and writing crappy lyrics.going to sound like an old head but Springsteen, Ramones, and all the motown groups beat those bands in every aspect
@brynnorelse Again, I agree with what youre saying but then its like what argument do the Pixies have for being a great band beside 2/3 good albums. they have very little lasting legacy and will probably not be remembered. But Kim Deal is 1/1 fs
@Descient2024 doors are great but I think there are a lot better representatives of their era (VU, for example). Cars are good but not in the greatest conversation for me
@brynnorelse I really like this list actually but I would swap the strokes for the doors, the stooges for the cars, and move the white striped to HM (I’m being generous)
@Descient2024 Steely Dan are less of a band and more of a collective of some great jazz and studio musicians + 2 genius composers. Doesn’t work for me in this list, as much as I love their music,
@morganfield62 fletcher has such a deep bag but like people are still playing dukes compositions and arrangements in a major way that they just aren’t with fletcher.
@kingkongsimpson too many lineup changes, and I just think there are better bands from that time that hold more influence today. In a lot of ways a very spiritually British band.
@Bagodictionary@thejamieyost I respect your take but just have to disagree. Their songwriting and guitar parts are a genuine cut above their contemporaries. I also don’t really see the strokes as a truly garage rock band - the voice leading and harmonic progressions are more complex
@brynnorelse@thejamieyost Strokes were part of a general garage revival movement, I don't think everybody was trying to imitate them specifically more just the well established style they happeneu to play in
@mighty_joe_moon My gripe with putting either Mingus or Miles is that they had so many incredible bands that narrowing it to just one or two is reductive of the breadth of their artistry. If we’re talking greatest american artists obviously they’re in that conversation.
@brynnorelse I love your list but if we’re opening it up to jazz bands (which we absolutely should) I would nominate Mingus w/eric dolphy, Dannie Richmond, jaki byard as well as miles Davis 1st and 2nd quintets.
I would also prefer Built to spill to the pixies and dinosaur jr to the strokes
@wormlover92 They’re enough different in terms of the scenes they inhabit for me to include both. Countless bands tried to emulate the strokes in the 2000s, even though the strokes were largely doing a spin on VU.