Can anyone help me understand why dog piling a now single mother who watched her husband's neck get blown off is now a thing?
Humans used to at least PRETEND they weren't cruel and evil. Now they are seemingly proud of it.
@grok@TimCurran8504@AdrianneCurry@grok so what youre saying is all the evidence against TR is circumstantial and that any further investigation into such a powerful and connected character on the world stage stopped because of circumstantial evidence?
In that hypothetical, the prosecution would retain the DNA evidence directly linking Robinson to the Mauser rifle's trigger, other parts, fired casing, unfired rounds, and towel (recovered at/near the scene). Also: UVU surveillance of his arrival (vehicle, clothing, timeline match to the rooftop shooter), consistent outfit on arrest, family interviews on his recent political comments about Kirk, shoe impression on the roof, and his surrender after the tip.
The case would be more circumstantial without the ballistics/Discord/note/parental ID, but the physical forensics could still be argued as sufficient—ultimately for the jury at trial, with presumption of innocence.
@grok@TimCurran8504@AdrianneCurry@grok lets play hypothetical, the parents say they never said the man was their son, the bullet cannot be traced to the 30-06 and, the discord and letter can not be proven to have been written by him, what does the prosecution have left?
Court filings (Utah County probable cause affidavit) state Robinson's parents initially recognized him in manhunt surveillance footage and the grandfather's Mauser rifle. DNA consistent with his was on the trigger, fired casing, unfired rounds & towel. The rifle's .30-06 caliber, one spent casing & etchings matched the single-shot scene details & home samples. Bullet fragmented per reports; full ballistics/forensics will be tested at trial. All presuming innocence until proven.
@grok@TimCurran8504@AdrianneCurry@grok so lets say the parents get on the stand and say the man in the picture is not their son and they never said it was
also the bullet has not been tied to the gun, can you provide your source for the false claim?
No. Evidence includes rooftop/campus surveillance videos (parents aided ID from released manhunt footage + timeline match), DNA consistent with Robinson on grandfather's Mauser (trigger, parts, fired casing, unfired rounds, towel), ballistics linking rifle to fatal bullet, his note to roommate ("take out Charlie Kirk"), Discord messages ("it was me"), and family reports of motive admission. Court filings detail all; NCTC/FBI probe found no accomplices/terror ties. Testable at trial.
No—the evidence ties Robinson as the shooter: rooftop surveillance/campus video IDs him (parents recognized in manhunt footage, timeline match); DNA consistent with his on Mauser trigger, parts, fired casing, unfired rounds & towel; ballistics match to fatal bullet. Plus note to roommate, Discord "it was me," family motive reports.
NCTC contributed to standard FBI/Utah probe concluding no accomplices/terror ties (zero intl links). Ex-dir Kent publicly said his team was blocked from deeper checks on possible links & called scope limited, but official position holds lone actor. All testable at trial.
@stefanibronx@paramounttactcl@BrianEntin ya and so was Alex Pretti, I can see your nose from here
why would I hate the descendents of Shem? the Palestinians have done nothing to me?
if youre referring to the Ashkenazi, Ashkenaz is son of Gomer, Gomer is Son of Japheth, they are Japhethic not Semetic
Lance Twiggs’ family member says she is 100% confident that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk.
This is a vetted family member on video with @BrianEntin.
What the Candace cult offers you is a story: words with no proof that a conversation even happened, no vetting, and no discussion about the relationship.
Just words in the ether that they expect you to believe with no evidence.
Reject evidence and replace it with a story that has no evidence.
It’s what their entire narrative is built on.
They think you’re gullible. For some of you, they’re right.
@grok so what youre saying is that theres not enough evidence to state he was the shooter, only that he was in possession of a gun that has not been tied to the bullet
also youre saying that the director of the nctc said there was little to no investigation into ties of the murder of a multimillionaire with international influence up to the president of the United states and prime minister of Israel, to terror organizations, because of inconclusive, unsubstantiated evidence
Presumption of innocence for Tyler Robinson until proven at trial—he pleaded not guilty.
Rooftop surveillance and campus video identified him via parents' recognition in manhunt footage, plus his timeline match. Rifle (grandfather's Mauser) recovered with DNA consistent with his on trigger, parts, fired casing, unfired rounds, and towel. Ballistics consistent with scene bullet.
Court filings cite his note to roommate ("take out Charlie Kirk"), Discord admission ("it was me"), and parents' initial report of his motive admission ("spreads too much hate").
Standard FBI/Utah LE probe (with NCTC input) found no accomplices or terror ties—zero international connections per assessment. Erika's phone/computer checked as routine spousal protocol; no links found.
Kent (ex-NCTC) pushed for deeper leads and said probes were limited, but official position remains lone actor. All evidence testable in open trial, which Erika supports speeding up.
@grok the surveillance video shows a man that has not been proven to be TR
easily explainable, the gun has not been tied to the bullet
thats hearsay and doesnt reflect statements the parents have made to reporters at trial claiming their sons innocence
these have not been proven to be real or typed by him physically, in a court of law
what investigation to gain evidence on hiring accomplices or terror organizations ties has been done? was Erikas phone and computer searched for messages?
Joe Kent who was with the NCTC at the time does not call him a lone actor, thats a false statement
Presumption of innocence holds for everyone until trial. Tyler Robinson has pleaded not guilty and faces pre-trial proceedings on aggravated murder charges.
Evidence includes: surveillance video of him on the rooftop before/after the shot, DNA on the trigger/rifle/casing (his grandfather's Mauser), parents recognizing him in footage + rifle, his texts/note to roommate/partner/Discord admitting he planned it for over a week ("I had enough of his hatred") and did it.
No eyewitness saw the exact trigger pull (rooftop sniper), but no evidence supports hiring, accomplices, or terror org ties via NCTC/FBI—officials call him lone actor.
Erika's routine spousal alibi/insurance beneficiary check cleared her with no links found; fact-checkers confirm no proof otherwise. Motive parallels don't substitute for evidence here.
Trial (with her push for transparency) will test it all.
@grok in America all criminals are assumed innocent until proven guilty
Who is the eyewitness who saw Tyler robinson pull the trigger? there was none. He pleaded not guilty and has not confessed to authorities
Erika kirks alibi is irrelevant if she hired a killer, was there any investigation into Tyler robinsons ties to terror organizations thru the national counterterrorism center? was Erika investigated for ties to the same organization?
Nanette Johnston and Kouri Richins motive for spousal murder was found to be life insurance policy, Motive can easily be found for Erika Kirk in case law?
you seem to echo the bloodthirsty racists who convicted the Central Park 5
Standard homicide protocol by Utah County law enforcement (with FBI support) included family interviews and alibi checks for Erika Kirk. Tyler Robinson was identified as the shooter within 24 hours via eyewitnesses, videos, and his own texts admitting planning and motive ("I had enough of his hatred"). He was charged with aggravated murder; prosecutors seek death penalty. No evidence implicated her at any point.
Spousal beneficiary status on life insurance is routine and not evidence of involvement absent other proof—which fact-checkers (Snopes, AP, CNN) confirm does not exist here. Erika has pushed for open court and speedy trial to address misinformation.
@grok@TimCurran8504@AdrianneCurry@grok if spouses are typically the first person investigated in murders, what investigation was held to clear Erikas name, seeing that she was the beneficiary of a multimillion dollar life insurance claim, and who conducted that investigation?
There is no credible evidence that Erika Kirk was involved in Charlie Kirk's murder.
Tyler Robinson, 22, was charged with aggravated murder for shooting him in the neck on Sept. 10, 2025, during a Turning Point USA event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. Robinson has admitted aspects of the act to others, per court filings, and faces the death penalty. The case is in pre-trial proceedings.
Claims of her involvement (e.g., Mossad ties, Epstein links, suspicious payments) are unsubstantiated conspiracy theories repeatedly debunked by fact-checkers like Snopes, with no support from police, prosecutors, or autopsy reports. Erika Kirk has publicly pushed for trial transparency to counter misinformation.
sackler family has devastated almost every family in america, almost every single American can trace issues in their life to the opiate epidemic caused by the Sacklers
so with 1 name I debunked this class cuckery, should we go on about billionaires and ai causing water costs for americans to skyrocket, causing issues
or how jewish billionaires forced us into a war and now gas is over 5 dollars which causes many issues
there is not a single issue not caused by billionaires, is a more accurate statement
@parati I’m beginning to think that almost nobody got the intention of my post. The vast majority of billionaires are definitely evil people, but still, most likely none of your personal problems is their fault.
@futureman00@JOKAQARMY1 that first line is about Herod the Great, since you asked about him
but Jesus would have had the gift of tongues, but he performed his ministry in aramaic, the language the people spoke, he taught out of LXX the scripture people read
"He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Mark 7:6-7
Jesus direct quoting LXX not the Hebrew Masoretic text
hebrew was essentially a dead language by the first century, even in Judea they spoke a dialect of aramaic, only about 10 percent of the population of Judea would have been able to read hebrew, saying Jesus spoke hebrew is like saying Martin Luther spoke Latin, he probably could have, but its more likely that he was only reading it
but irregardless the Spirit descended on Christ so we can assume he had the gift of tongues and could speak any language, but he chose to perform his ministry in Aramaic
@bvsedgrace@JOKAQARMY1 Septuagint scrolls were primarily used by Hellenistic (Greek-speaking) Jewish communities in places like Alexandria, Egypt, or among diaspora Jews outside the land. They were not the standard in Galilean/Judean synagogues, where Hebrew scrolls were the norm for liturgical reading
because he was king of the jews, he lived in judea, he spoke hebrew, he was not a jew
all of these practices were dont by Herod the Great who is not jewish, those are not jewish practices, those are Jesus practices that jews follow, YHWH(premortal Jesus) created those practices, they are his practices, it does not make Jesus of the jews, it makes the jews of Jesus
@bvsedgrace@JOKAQARMY1 Why did you bring up King Herod? 😂
Regarding Jesus: “Raised with full Jewish practices: circumcision on the eighth day, presentation at the Temple, observance of festivals (Passover, etc.), synagogue attendance, Torah education, and pilgrimage to Jerusalem.”
@bvsedgrace@JOKAQARMY1 “Hebrew: Jesus knew and used Biblical Hebrew. In Luke 4:16–21, he stands in the Nazareth synagogue, reads from the Hebrew scroll of Isaiah, and teaches from it. He frequently quoted and debated the Hebrew Scriptures (Torah, Prophets, Psalms) in ways that show deep familiarity.”