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陈默 DeFi OG. Core LUNAtics. // DeFi Research and Practice.

Katılım Mart 2018
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开一个有问必答贴,常年置顶 ☀️ 「CRYPTO 補完計劃」
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申请拿回了chenmo这个handle,X最好用的一个功能。😎 I just got @chenmo from the X Handle Marketplace! Get your own at handles.x.com
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当进入流量为王的时代,大部分信息会离真相越来越远,现在的twitter慢慢可能就变成crypto版小红书了。
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@ecrivaine_k 嗯,这个方法看起来挺好的,我准备试试,另外也有一些感叹吧,如果直接刷x的推荐,会越看越郁闷😂 对于创作者来说,已经不是根据内容的质量来主导了,而是热度和话题主导,很多人的分享欲会降低,以后可能真的就靠小圈子来交流信息了
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K Erica 🌸 buidl mode: on
其實和 x 改的推薦算法有關吧。要不你試試刷 x 本身主要是和朋友交流,然後寫好一個長 prompt 配合你要關注的主題去認真篩出帳號列表,再換 supergrok 每隔一段時間掃這些帳號的內容,測試跑幾次匯總到一起,讓多個大模型交叉核查,踢掉其中你說的這種為了流量而失真的帳號,最後就做成完整工作流讓 AI 整理匯報給你?我已經這樣做小半年了,感覺比直接刷 x 好很多。
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@xuming12345 很简单,什么流量高就发什么,你在小红书上能看到真实的生活写照吗
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鼠大@xuming12345·
@chenmo 信息发达了,那为什么大部分信息会离真相越来越远
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@ClifeDavis 目前我还没找到能量化的估值体系,但目前市面上的算法我觉得都有问题,比如用gas,或者用出售区块空间这种生意来计算,都太片面了
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豪杰(玄天邪帝版)🔮
@chenmo 那怎么给这个特性估值呢,美团只负责传输中国的生活类服务信息640亿,以太坊按构想至少承载全球5%的金融信息那这个估值该是多少,还不考虑以太坊能做资本累积的方面
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Vitalik这篇被解读出了各种版本,其实最关键内容是CROPS,你可以认为以太坊在商业化上面是失败的,但CROPS目前是最好的。 Censorship-resistant/Robust/Open/Private/Secure,抗审查、鲁棒、开放、私密、安全。 AI将推动链上安全军备竞赛,牺牲安全性获得短期商业利益的生态会加速被淘汰。 我认同 未来会出现很多中心化主导的链,机构链,甚至政府链,合规和法律会提升它们的防御等级,但在公链中,CROPS会越来越被重视,这种价值发现往往是严重滞后的。 (这个观点的前提是,我认为公链不会被证伪)
vitalik.eth@VitalikButerin

Some of my perspective on where the @ethereumfndn is going. First of all, this is only my own view. The board is not just me, and I have no extra special powers on the board that the other board members do not. @aerugoettinea is the one executing much of this transition. My input has been largely on technical questions. The board is in the process of expanding, and my own power within the org will continue to decrease, which is honestly what I want. The 2025 era brought many important improvements to EF and its ability to execute. Many issues were resolved, and EF continues to benefit from its improved efficiency and greater focus on concrete goals to this day. And so with those problems resolved, early this year, the largest remaining hole that I perceived was something different nagging at me: I would regularly spot people saying things like "vitalik says these beautiful things about ethereum needing to be decentralized, and have privacy, and be a sanctuary technology, but why do the EF's actions not reflect that?" Now, you may have been hearing something different. You may not have been sensing a feeling of crisis at all, and maybe were hearing people saying that finally we were taking execution and BD seriously and the main task for us is to keep going that way and be even better and faster. Then probably there is genuine difference between you and me, in what kinds of criticism I take most seriously, and what kinds of critics through their criticism are most able to make me feel pain. As an analogy, let's briefly switch over to a different domain. One belief you can have about Google is that it is a success story, and has brought a lot of good to humanity in organizing the world's information. Another belief you can have about Google is that they had a beautiful idealistic beginning, but at some point the corruption of mainstream corporate attitudes seeped in, and they slowly bit by bit completely abandoned the "don't be evil" slogan. My belief on Google specifically is probably somewhere between the two. BUT, if you had taken me back in time to ~2008, and offered me a button to press to make Google one or two standard deviations more "dogmatic", eg. give Richard Stallman permanent veto power over some key policies, I would immediately press it. Why? Because a choice for one company is not a choice for the world, or even one country. Google existed and exists in the context of a technology industry generally drifting away from early idealistic don't-be-evil roots and toward greed for financial gain, totalizing visions of accelerated superintelligence, infiltration by sociopaths, and craven capitulation to (or worse, active participation in) government pressure for ideological control, surveillance and war. And so *one company* doing something different, positioning itself to be what George Bernard Shaw calls the Unreasonable Man, resisting the trend of the times, would have been better for freedom, balance of power and stability of society as a whole, than *all* large companies bending to dominant trends. This is a part of my version of pluralism. This line of thinking is not just mine, but I also is not too far off from what Aya and others had in mind with the Mandate. Now how does this all get to the role of the EF? EF is not a "center of Ethereum", rather EF is "one node, with a defined purpose, alongside other nodes". We've always said that the EF should be the latter, but many in the Ethereum ecosystem (and even within the EF) wanted us to be the former. Now, we are taking action to ensure that we will be the latter. This is particularly important because EF is a limited organization, with limited resources and limited organizational capacity. The EF has only ~0.16% of all ETH (less than many other individual ETH holders), whereas among other blockchains it's common for "the central foundation" to have 10-50%. Fiscally, the EF was originally designed to fulfill a limited work scope defined in the token sale docs and other pre-launch materials (building the chain software; getting through Frontier, Homestead, Metropolis, Serenity), which was fully completed in 2022; it was not designed to be an eternal steward. And so today, the EF is choosing to use its remaining resources to pursue longevity over breadth (yes, this means we sell less ETH). The EF focuses *specifically* on those activities critical to the success of ethereum as a censorship/capture-resistant, open, private and secure system, that would not happen otherwise. This means making hard choices, and in some cases even activities that we highly approve of and people that we highly respect becoming outside of the EF. People of great technical talent, public respect and even alignment with the mission and CROPS being outside of the EF is in fact necessary if we want important tasks to be able to attract outside capital. This also means the EF taking opinionated stands culturally. This is all intended in cooperation with all other parts of ethereum. We recognize that many other parts of the ethereum world highly respect CROPS and related values. But highly respecting is not the same as choosing to specialize and totally dedicate to a domain (Compare in a different domain: I think reducing animal cruelty is important, and I like vegan food, but am not full unconditional vegan myself) EF is still in a transition period, and we expect its new long-term form to stabilize over the next few months. What are the guiding principles of this new form? Again, I am only one person, but I can give my answer from a technical perspective (there are also critical non-technical aspects). At the core, *Ethereum must be impressive*. We are living in an age of highly intelligent AI and all kinds of other technological acceleration. "Status quo EVM, with a hard fork or two a year to optimize for short-term needs of users" is not interesting. To some, "impressive" means: 250ms latency and 1M TPS. I think Ethereum trying to go that route is a mistake. Being as fast and as scalable as possible, and only a small epsilon more decentralized than the others, is a route to mediocrity, and if we try it we will lose. I think Ethereum should scale. But I think Ethereum should strive the hardest to be deeply impressive in a different dimension: the CROPS dimension. This means things like: * Provably bug-free Ethereum. This is a goal that all cybersecurity researchers would have thought is absurd and impossible, up until roughly 6 months ago. Now, it's on the cusp of being possible, thanks to AI-assisted formal verification. So we should be frontrunners in doing this. * Available chain consensus. Ethereum is, and with lean consensus will cotninue to be, the ONLY chain that has both (i) traditional-BFT style properties that it's safe under asynchrony up to a high level of fault tolerance, and (ii) the bitcoin PoW-style property that under synchrony it's safe up to 49% attackers. As far as I can tell, literally no other chain has this or is planning for it; bitcoin goes for (ii) only and most other chains go for (i) only. Some will remember I fought hard for this, Unreasonably insisting that it is not OK for ethereum to rely on social consensus and hard forks to rescue ethereum from 34% of nodes going offline. It's OK for chains like hyperledger, bnb, solana, tempo, etc. It's not OK for bitcoin or ethereum or eg. zcash. * Intermediary minimization. The fact that smart contract wallets, protocols like railgun, etc have to send transactions through intermediaries to get included onchain is honestly embarrassing, and it's a constant point of fragility. Hence the work on FOCIL and EIP-8141 (and 7701 and years of work before) to make transaction sending intermediary-minimized with public mempool and strong inclusion properties, in a truly general-purpose way, that covers not just eg. secp256r1, but also privacy protocols and much more. Kohaku is pushing intermediary minimization at the user layer, pulling Ethereum away from the dystopian status quo world where our wallets don't even verify the chain, send our private data out to a dozen third-party servers, and toward a brighter CROPS future. Some of these goals are Unreasonable - maybe Ethereum would be "fine" getting only 50% of the way - what if we depend on intermediaries, but make it easy to switch? But going 50% of the way would not make Ethereum Deeply Impressive in the CROPS way. So we push for 100%. Fortunately all these goals are compatible with high TPS, this is a major focus of research (esp. on scaling the state). Well-designed L2s can also help, especially L2s optimized for specific applications (eg. high-volume trading, privacy...). These goals are even compatible with significantly lower slot times, thanks to Raul's work on erasure-coded P2P, and many other optimizations. The most high-value "product" of the ethereum blockchain, financially speaking, is ETH the asset. Ethereum secures $250 billion of ETH. The types of properties of Ethereum that I mentioned above are very good for ETH the asset. Nearly 90% of my net worth is in ETH, and most of the remainder is ~$40m of onchain fiat of which every dollar has already been allocated for some open-source biotech or software or hardware initiative. That said, there are aspects of supporting ETH the asset - *necessary* aspects even - that are outside the scope of the EF. This is where we need other heroes (some of whom hold more ETH than the EF does) to step in and help. EF has been recently thinking more about how it will relate to other such organizations, and give them needed initial support. EF will be a smaller ship than in previous years, a more opinionated one - in some cases more opinionated in ways that might be difficult to comprehend - but a longer-lasting one, and one suited to making sure that ethereum brings something meaningful to the world. We are grateful to all those inside and outside the EF who are helping to make this happen.

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@chenmo 作为一个学自动化的人,每次看到鲁棒这个词就想吐槽一下当年的翻译,翻译了等于没翻 叫稳健性不好吗
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@chenmo 我相信现在对以太打压的越狠,以太独有的东西就越稀缺。
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@chenmo @SkyMoney @sparkdotfi 投资角度应该还是龙头,撸分角度还是有性价比的,释放比例定了,哪怕对标 pyth redstone 也有搞头
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Sky的协议净收入在2026 Q1是60M,较2025 Q4提升了2.6倍,其中大部分增长都来自USDS的规模扩张,Vault的增长,随后更多的资本被部署到了Spark、Grove这些Sky Agent,带动了Stability Fee Revenues 大幅增长,同时费用端没有过大的增加。 这个数据在熊市当中,稳定币竞争焦灼的环境下,已经非常出色。
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@hellosuoha 你是rail砸完了,还是zec砸完了
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@chenmo 昨天已经砸完了😂 我不会说挂了ath没跑掉只能多拿一年
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隐私炒的很热,这个赛道真好多钻石手,看了几个地址都是拿了2-4年的。 ethereum:0xe76c6c83af64e4c60245d8c7de953df673a7a33d zcash:native
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@whiskoy_eth @SkyMoney @sparkdotfi 有一战之力吧,但link目前的市场占比很大,而且跟机构的合作也在推进,先发优势和垄断效应都形成了。
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@OKxiaohai 是的,3块钱的时候我在等这些获利盘下车,结果谁也不卖😂
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@ttk2099 @SkyMoney @sparkdotfi sky也开了usdc usdt vault,所以你存这两个稳定币也是一样的,它在中间也赚钱。你可以理解为sky和sky agent帮你赚钱,这个就是银行的业务逻辑。
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@chenmo @SkyMoney @sparkdotfi 是什么动力让人愿意掏钱,,贷USDT USDC也一样贷呀,虽然有去中心化U有需求,但也没这么大吧
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@ttk2099 @SkyMoney @sparkdotfi 吃稳定币规模,你可以理解为链上版的tether,它的稳定币放贷给自己的subDAO,subDAO再布局到各个热门领域去赚钱。
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