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Private payments for the internet. Accept Zcash in minutes. Non-custodial.

Katılım Haziran 2025
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Cipherpay@cipherpay_app·
A coffee shop in Lagos. A bookstore in São Paulo. A barbershop in Bangalore. A tattoo parlor in Berlin. All can now accept Zcash in person. No card reader. No bank. No trace. POS is live. Zcash is digital cash. We just made it act like it. 🌐🛡️
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Cipherpay@cipherpay_app·
Zcash makes it possible. We just built the checkout page.
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Paul Brigner 🛡️@paulbrigner·
💯%‼️ The talent at @zodl_co and across the leading Zcash dev shops is jaw-dropping — and one of the clearest signals for what’s coming. That caliber of talent can’t be bought. They follow conviction. @ZcashFoundation @TachyonZcash @ShieldedLabs @ZingoLabs @cipherscan_app @cipherpay_app @ZcashNames @zcashme and many more!
Zchat | Shielded messenger@zchat_app

@cypherpunk @zodl_app talent circulating inside zcash instead of leaving is the retention signal most chains can't buy

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Kenbak
Kenbak@k6nb4k·
@cypherpunk Enters @cipherpay_app! Zcash is the default payment layer of the world and we make it easy for digital and real life merchants 🙌
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Cipherpay@cipherpay_app·
Payments should feel like Apple Pay, but private. Native CipherPay checkout is coming to Zcash wallets 👀
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Cypherpunk ($CYPH)@cypherpunk·
.@mert: "Zcash is a Swiss vault in your pocket."
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Cipherpay@cipherpay_app·
AI can now reconstruct your spending habits from transparent blockchain data in seconds. Your morning coffee. Your pharmacy visits. Your political donations. Shielded Zcash payments through CipherPay leave nothing to reconstruct. That's not a feature. That's the point.
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Kenbak
Kenbak@k6nb4k·
Transparent payments are an absolute anomaly. For roughly 5,000 years of recorded human commerce, financial privacy was the structural default. If you bought wheat in ancient Rome or a printing press in 19th-century London, the transaction settled instantly and locally. No third party recorded the metadata, and no algorithmic risk-engine scored the exchange. The current system, where nearly every transaction is logged, analyzed, and subject to censorship by a centralized intermediary, is roughly 50 years old. In the grand timeline of human history, a regime of total financial surveillance is a microscopic aberration. Zcash.
Kenbak@k6nb4k

Don’t take my word for it. Return to normal. Zcash.

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Cipherpay@cipherpay_app·
Why do you need private payments? 🔅Building the Modern World: The Renaissance, the Industrial Revolution, and the massive expansion of global trade routes were all financed through private, un-surveilled, peer-to-peer transactions. 🔅 Economic Sovereignty: Physical cash allowed local economies to function purely on localized trust. It allowed individuals to save and spend without seeking permission from a central authority or paying a toll to a middleman. Zcash enables all that. Cipherpay makes it easy.
Kenbak@k6nb4k

Don’t take my word for it. Return to normal. Zcash.

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Cipherpay@cipherpay_app·
You are right! Appreciate the correction. The core distinction is still the architecture: Flexa is custodial (funds flow through Flexa's infrastructure, collateralized by AMP), CipherPay is non-custodial (ZEC goes directly to the merchant's shielded address, no middleman holds funds). Both have a place.
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ThatBrandonGuy@InvisiboBrandon·
@cipherpay_app @LambofCrypto @FlexaHQ Flexa DOES allow the merchant to receive payment in ZEC. From their website's payment page, "Receive payouts in any mix of USD, CAD, EUR, and digital assets". The customer can pay using Doge and the merchant can choose to receive the payment in ZEC (or ETH, USD, BTC, LTC, etc)
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Cipherpay@cipherpay_app·
@sacha An escape hatch only works if you can spend it when you land. That's the commerce layer.
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sacha@sacha·
the thesis is simple shielded zec protects your ability to exit and start a new life somewhere less dystopian the existence of something like zcash would have been a godsend to those who were forced to flee nazi germany it doesnt need to become a global payments network to succeed (though that would be nice) it doesnt need to remain listed on exchanges to succeed (though that would be nice) it just needs to be a reliable escape hatch for those that need to flee from coercive and confiscatory govnts this trend im afraid is up only, which means that the zcash hodler base will also likely be up only (assuming the social layer doesn't fracture and there are no existential technical exploits), as will the liquidity and robustness metrics any private app on top of a transparent base layer leaks some amount of metadata that ai-powered surveillance will eventually piece together to deanonymize you, so this doesn't give you peace of mind the same way holding shielded zec does the technical commoditization point sounds deep but doesn't matter either: you need a social layer that is willing to die on the e2e encrypted hill, the same way bitcoin's social layer is willing to die on the 21M hard cap hill and there's only one social layer that fits the bill here the meta mistake is comparing zcash to bitcoin today. when really you should be comparing it to bitcoin c. 2013
Lorenzo Valente@LorenzoARK

A Small Manifesto Against the Current @Zcash Bandwagon Zcash is a remarkable piece of cryptography, but cryptography isn't the bottleneck for crypto in 2026. Distribution, liquidity, and developer adoption are. And those are the exact dimensions on which Zcash is structurally disadvantaged. 1. Network effects work against single-purpose privacy chains Privacy is a network-effect product: the larger the anonymity set, the stronger the privacy guarantee. Zcash currently has ~30% of supply in shielded pools, and most activity moves in and out of the shielded layer rather than staying within it. A shielded pool with ~5M ZEC and a few thousand daily active users provides meaningfully less privacy than the same cryptographic primitives running on an L1 with 10M+ daily addresses. The math is brutal. If 100 people hide in a room, finding any individual is hard. If 100 million people hide in a room, it's impossible. Privacy coins concentrate users. Privacy features on general-purpose chains recruit them. 2. Liquidity and acceptance are non-negotiable A privacy coin that gets delisted from major exchanges, as Zcash repeatedly has across Japan, Korea, the UK, and parts of the EU, becomes harder to acquire, harder to exit, and harder to use at scale. Privacy tools built on Ethereum, Solana, or Base inherit the liquidity of the underlying chain. You don't have to choose between privacy and the ability to transact with the rest of the financial system. Zcash forces that choice. Nobody wants to make it. 3. People don't want private money. They want private applications Most people don't need to hide a $50 ZEC transfer. They need confidential business payments, private payroll, undisclosed treasury operations, sealed-bid auctions, private voting and confidential DeFi positions that don't leak through transaction graphs. None of these run on a privacy coin. They run on smart contract platforms with privacy primitives like @aztecnetwork on Ethereum, @AleoHQ as its own L1, @solana 's confidential transfers, @penumbrazone in the Cosmos ecosystem, FHE-based chains like @fhenix and ZK-rollups in general The future of privacy is programmable, not denominational. 4. The technology has been completely commoditized zk-SNARKs were Zcash's moat in 2016. By 2026, they're the foundation of every major L2, dozens of privacy systems, and most rollup architectures. The Zcash team did the foundational research, and then watched the IP escape. The chains that benefited most aren't paying rent to Zcash, and they never will. It's one of the cleanest examples in crypto of pioneering a technology and capturing none of the value. 5. Regulatory exposure cuts the wrong way Privacy coins occupy a uniquely vulnerable regulatory category. Privacy tools on general-purpose chains can be designed with selective disclosure, view keys for auditors, compliance hooks and they live inside chains regulators have already accepted as legitimate financial infrastructure. Zcash has built the same compliance tooling (view keys, selective disclosure protocols) but still carries the "privacy coin" label that triggers automatic delisting regardless of actual functionality. The technology isn't the problem. The category is. 6. The unit-of-account problem For privacy to matter for real economic activity, it has to be denominated in money people actually use, this is the biggest lesson in crypto over the past 5 years. Nobody pays salaries, settles invoices, or runs treasuries in ZEC. They use USD, EUR, USDC, USDT. Privacy that requires switching unit-of-account is privacy that won't be used at scale. The winning model is private stablecoins and private transfers of mainstream assets, which requires programmability Zcash structurally doesn't have and isn't on a path to building. 7. The "private Bitcoin" comparison is just stupid At the end of the day, Zcash only really competes with Bitcoin, except it doesn't, because the "private Bitcoin" framing falls apart on contact with reality. You don't get to slap "private" on as a feature and call yourself Bitcoin's successor when you don't have the liquidity, the decentralized robustness, the regulatory acceptance, the size, or the history. Bitcoin's hashrate is distributed across hundreds of pools and tens of thousands of independent miners globally. Zcash's hashrate is functionally controlled by a handful of pools running ASICs from a few Chinese manufacturers. Zcash inherited Bitcoin's consensus model with a fraction of Bitcoin's decentralization. And decentralization isn't a sliding scale where "more" earns you partial credit. It's binary. You're either close enough to Bitcoin to inherit the monetary properties that come with extreme decentralization, as Ethereum genuinely is, or you're not, and the "moneyness" argument doesn't apply to you at all. Ethereum and even Solana have an order of magnitude better chances of reaching Bitcoin's market cap than Zcash does. That's not a controversial claim. It's just looking at the data.

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Cipherpay@cipherpay_app·
@LambofCrypto @FlexaHQ Flexa makes crypto invisible to the merchant, they get fiat. CipherPay makes crypto accessible to the merchant, they get ZEC. These serve completely different philosophies and markets.
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CryptoLamb@LambofCrypto·
@cipherpay_app @FlexaHQ does this proof of concept But need more builders working at it. Need to leverage near intents
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