@r_u_thinking @PhilipWitton198 It's okay to say you don't get it, no shame in that Steve 👍
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Christian Kjær
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Christian Kjær
@codetalkio
Co-Founder/CTO at Yaay (https://t.co/1h6XFyTBlI) reimagining travel 🌞 •• ✍️ at https://t.co/fOGJfINDR6 •• 🧪 at https://t.co/x3svyPoQrP •• https://t.co/T286gLOCPe
Copenhagen, Denmark Katılım Ocak 2010
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@codetalkio @PhilipWitton198 i looked at your app
you might be filling a void in the market but from a tech standpoint i'm not impressed
and you shouldn't need any employees for that, much less a lot of them
what's your plan? more apps? branching out? where's the growth coming from?
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Dumbass take, we have higher minimum wage in Denmark, comparable price for coffee, and manage just fine here
If you cannot figure out how to run your business while paying a livable wage, then you should go back to business school again
These takes are so self serving
Peter McCormack 🏴☠️🇬🇧🇮🇪@PeterMcCormack
A minimum wage of £15 would end my coffee shop, it would have to close, as would many other businesses. I’ll explain for the economically illiterate. Staff costs are currently half our costs, a £15 minimum wage is actually more than £15 an hour for the company, because you have to add: - 12.07% holiday - Sick pay - Maternity pay if and when required - National insurance - Pension contributions These costs would mean the shop loses money because remember, energy costs are up, rates are up, regulations are up. Now you can pass these costs onto the consumer - that would mean charging a lot more for coffee, people won’t pay it. The likes of Starbucks and Costa can, because they have economies of scale. The independent doesn’t. Now the little socialist will say well this is your fault, if you can’t run a business that can afford to pay its staff properly, but the little socialist has never run a business and does not understand the dynamics. Now I could pay some staff off and fill those hours myself or reduce us to one staff member during certain periods - but this proves the point that a minimum wage costs jobs. There was a time when these jobs were done by kids, perhaps on the weekend, paid a lower wage, no holiday and no silly employment rights. Perhaps they were even paid cash. The dynamic worked and small businesses like this could operate. It was also a great first job. Sadly now it isn’t worth employing entitlement youngsters at this level of pay. So alas, I don’t need the stress, the business would close, a number of jobs would be lost. Economics is about understanding these dynamics, no vibes. The cost of living is not solved through passing on inflation to the business, it is solved by ending high inflation and creating prosperity. This is what socialists don’t understand, they can’t create prosperity, they can only destroy it.
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@preWRK @PhilipWitton198 Seeing the Green party's momentum, I'm hopeful that there is a change coming - Labour has done enormous damage to downgrading public services across the board
A significant shift is needed
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Good point.
I'd counter in the UK most of the competent people have long since left for the private sector and unfortunately you got subpar people running govt services right to the top
In that situation it's hard to argue giving more to the state as they make it worse with each £
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@SageoftheShire “that they haven’t earned” is working not earning?
Fair enough that you didn’t know my tweet was as about the £15 minimum wage discussion in the UK though
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@codetalkio You mean the right of poor people to other people’s money that they haven’t earned?
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People sure are very protective of the “rights” of millionaires, but not poor people 🤔
Like, are you hoping they Venmo you a bit of money if you take their side or smth?
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@codetalkio Zero employees and 2 stars on App Store,
has never ran a business in the UK sit down wee fella
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@r_u_thinking @PhilipWitton198 I do though, but sure believe what you will
If you’re actually curious, I’m a startup founder, so my employee count will quickly far outpace Peter’s, as we continue to grow
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@codetalkio @PhilipWitton198 maybe
i'd bet my last dollar that you don't have employees, though, if you do 'run a business' (whatever that means)
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@preWRK @PhilipWitton198 In the US I’d be angry, because they deliver so little value to tax payers and misuse of funds (to e.g. wars) are so rampant
Mamdani’s New York is a promising case of how to spend for the people you govern, so there’s some hope there
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@preWRK @PhilipWitton198 As long as the value I get from the taxes I pay are good, I’d rather pay what is effectively around 42%’ish of my income (taxes are tiered, deductibles, etc)
It lifts the entirety of society, which makes living in said society a generally better experience
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@OO06ska londoncoffeeindex.com
£4.2 in London, I just got a Latte earlier today for £4.85
I’m okay with paying £0.65 more if that means the person serving me the coffee can pay rent this month
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@codetalkio And the rest of the story is, that a cup of coffee is £5 whereas it's less than £4 in the UK. Easy peasy, pay more wages and put everything up.
There it is, a simple solution when you have no understanding of business or economics 🙊
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@codetalkio If you can’t figure out how to pay your bills on your paycheque you must either lower your expenses by removing “ nice to haves “ or Increase your value by educating or making yourself more valuable. It’s not up to the employer to finance your dreams.
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@rtsrichard Well, you see Richard, Pete is tying to generalize his business to the entire country
So I’m pointing out that it’s a load of crap
But I guess if you didn’t understand Pete’s post, it’s a bit hard to then understand a reply to it
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@codetalkio The dumbass take is you believing you can judge the consequences of government policy on Pete's business better than Pete.
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@Fernand10799134 What are we racing towards? Just gotta pile more money on the stack? Or increase the wellness and happiness of your population?
Denmark chose the latter, while striking a good balance overall
The US is purely hoarding money, they could be doing so much more for their citizens
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@codetalkio There is a reason Denmark GDP has grown only 44-49% from 2000 to 2024 and USA has grown 60-70%… You think policies like this, killing new businesses, didn’t help create that growth gap?
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@roberta_builder @DuncanBannatyne Despite being wrong, you are very much not a bot, which I don’t yet know if I feel is unfortunate or not
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@roberta_builder @DuncanBannatyne Sorry for the internet nerd lingo: s/bot/not/ means “replace bot with not in the text” because a lil’ keyboard mistake went through
I could also have written: not*
But I clearly mistakenly thought the first was less confusing
Ain’t about to drop $ just for an edit button
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@roberta_builder @DuncanBannatyne Three things here Roberta:
- He’s commenting on the industry as a whole
- No, not everyone is qualified to be a waiter, and I can tell you clearly have no experience in hospitality if you think so
- Denmark is extremely educated, so people likely seek jobs related to their study
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@codetalkio @DuncanBannatyne 😆 you can't find enough qualified bar staff & waitresses/waiters.
You couldn't make this nonsense up.
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@EvaliaVae @StevePaul63 Fordelen ved det er at vi kan justere alt efter hvordan realiteterne ser ud i de forskellige industrier
Den post jeg kommenterede på var en café ejer, deraf er 3F de mest relevante
Held og lykke med at åbne en café/restaurant uden for det
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@EvaliaVae @StevePaul63 Hej Evalia,
Der er flere en 1 måde at løse problemet at vi skal betale en ordentlig løn til folk.
Vi har i Danmark fundet vores måde, men hvis fagforeninger ikke havde gjort det, så var lov relevant
Begge giver samme resultat: du som medarbejder er garanteret en mindste løn
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@roberta_builder @DuncanBannatyne What’s your point? Are we now trying to talk about something other than minimum wage?
Novo people certainly aren’t even remotely close to min wage
They are floundering a bit at the moment, they are a diabetes company that tried to venture into being a weight loss company
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@codetalkio @DuncanBannatyne So that's your apparent growth industry?
You have nothing else in Denmark, so to try to earn a living, you open a cafe?
Even Novo Nordisk has imploded. Danish socialism has not worked. Period.
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@tonymc39 Your two brain cells trying to read:
“Denmark has no legal minimum wage” did I say legal? No, because it’s set by unions and is industry specific
$25/hour is the minimum wage for someone working at McDonalds as an example
3f.dk/-/media/files/…
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Denmark has no legal minimum wage
Christian Kjær@codetalkio
Dumbass take, we have higher minimum wage in Denmark, comparable price for coffee, and manage just fine here If you cannot figure out how to run your business while paying a livable wage, then you should go back to business school again These takes are so self serving
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@Crypto_Counsel @tonymc39 Let me help you Dean
Unions set the minimum wage in Denmark for their respective industries, not the government
If I work at McDonalds or at a cafe I will be under HORESTA/3F
My minimum wage is set at $25/hour
Here’s McDonalds agreement 3f.dk/-/media/files/… (page 16)
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@tonymc39 So the libtard @codetalkio either lied or was ignorant. Seems typical for the libtard. Facts are what they feel they should be, not what they are
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@A_HODL_21m @BornAlchemist Yes there is a difference in pay if you are below vs above 18, what of it?
Minimum wages are set by unions, that’s how the model works here, not by the government (which you will find mentioned exactly 0 times in my post)
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