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@khrachvik Pretty amazing how voluntarily, freely trading value with others and owning property got so many people killed!



Your hypothetical needs testing against how UK structures actually work. Look at what FDI even means here. ONS defines it as corporate ownership: a parent company controlling at least 10% of the voting power of a UK affiliate (ons.gov.uk/economy/nation…). The £2,127.6bn UK inward FDI stock at end-2024 is by definition corporate-to-corporate ownership (ons.gov.uk/economy/nation…). A Frenchman personally holding UK company shares does not appear in those figures at all. That is portfolio investment. Different category, different tax treatment. Now look at how HMRC treats the £10m+ population. Its High Net Worth Unit, set up in 2009 for the £20m+ crowd and later extended to £10m+, was built around "trusts, offshore accounts, company structures, and inheritance planning" (library.croneri.co.uk/topic/high-net…). Not personal direct ownership. HMRC does not spin up specialist units for populations that do not exist. Of the 850,000 wealthy individuals HMRC now deals with, 73% are represented by tax agents (publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5901/cmse…). UK residents held £849bn in offshore accounts across 93 jurisdictions at end-2019, per the NAO's May 2025 report (nao.org.uk/press-releases…). Not a marginal pattern. The baseline. Why? UK IHT law. Direct personal foreign ownership of UK situs assets is subject to inheritance tax of up to 40% on death, regardless of residence or domicile. For non-resident foreigners, the standard vehicles are non-UK holding companies and offshore trusts, not UK-resident structures. Specialist advisers say it plainly: direct personal investment into UK companies leaves international families exposed to UK IHT on those UK situs assets, which is why corporate wrappers are used as standard (dixcart.com/news/wealth-pl…). The April 2025 non-dom reform tightened the position on UK residential property held through corporate wrappers, but the incentive to structure through offshore vehicles for other UK situs assets remains. Adviser commentary since has been consistent: more of this structuring, not less (lanop.co.uk/trusts-foundat…). So the Frenchman personally holding £10m+ of UK shares either has no adviser or has one and is ignoring them. In the UK data, that is not a real population. The scenario gets invoked to give a wealth-tax look-through provision an implied broad reach. But the foreigners with meaningful UK exposure are already caught by ATED, non-resident CGT, non-resident SDLT, and IHT on UK situs assets. Accuse me of using AI if it makes you feel better. The point still stands. Your hypothetical of a Frenchman personally holding UK assets through a company, doesn’t match how non-resident investment actually works. Real FDI is corporate-to-corporate, and non-residents who invest in the UK overwhelmingly do so through non-UK holding companies or offshore trusts to manage IHT. So claiming a wealth tax would deter FDI based on that scenario is weak. The structures that actually exist are already subject to ATED, non-resident CGT, and IHT. A look-through wealth tax wouldn’t be operating on some clean, simple personal holding, it would be dealing with the same complex arrangements that already exist.

.@DanielPriestley's claim: UK wealth tax campaigners are mad about US inequality and importing US data. This is not correct. Take his own comparison seriously first. UK average net worth $293k vs US $620k, UK median $125k vs US $107k. The UK middle is better off than the US middle. That much is true. But the relevant peer group for UK policy is Europe, not the US. And on income inequality within Europe, the UK is at the top of the range. UK income Gini stands at 37% after housing costs in 2024/25 (House of Commons Library, commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-brief…). This is higher than France, Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Ireland, and every Nordic country on OECD comparable data (OECD Income Distribution Database, oecd.org/en/data/datase…). Peer-reviewed research puts it directly: the UK is now the European country most similar to the USA in terms of income inequalities, and in the European context an outlier of extreme inequality (Dorling, Applied Geography, sciencedirect.com/science/articl…). Priestley's chosen comparator is the country most similar to the UK on income inequality. He then presents the similarity as reassuring. On UK wealth, which UK campaigners actually cite: The top 10% of UK households hold 43% of all wealth. The top fifth holds 63% against the bottom fifth's 0.5% (ONS Wealth and Assets Survey, via Equality Trust, equalitytrust.org.uk/scale-economic…). The richest 50 families in the UK now hold more wealth than the bottom half of the UK population, 34.1 million people (Equality Trust, equalitytrust.org.uk/scale-economic…). The top 0.1% share of UK wealth doubled between 1984 and 2013, reaching 9% (World Inequality Database, wid.world/country/united…). UK financial wealth Gini stands at 0.80 (peer-reviewed analysis of ONS Wealth and Assets Survey data, sciencedirect.com/science/articl…). Financial wealth is the most concentrated component. Total wealth Gini is lower because housing is more widely distributed, but the top-end concentration on financial assets is what drives political leverage. None of this depends on any comparison to the United States. These are British numbers about British inequality. On growth, Priestley presents US growth and optimism as evidence its inequality is worth tolerating but the full picture is different. Real income for the bottom 50% of US earners has been roughly flat since 1980 in Piketty, Saez, and Zucman's distributional national accounts (gabriel-zucman.eu/files/PSZ2018Q…). US life expectancy declined for three consecutive years from 2015 to 2017, before further COVID-era declines, an unusual pattern among developed economies (CDC National Center for Health Statistics, cdc.gov/nchs/products/…). Case and Deaton's peer-reviewed work in PNAS documents "deaths of despair", from suicide, alcohol, and drug overdose, on a scale not observed in other developed economies (pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pn…). Growth headlines are not the same as living standards for the median household. "Less unequal than the US" is not an argument against action. The US is the wrong benchmark. The relevant question is why UK inequality outstrips comparable European economies, and what structural reforms would close the gap. Wealth taxation is one instrument in that conversation. Public ownership of infrastructure, restored collective bargaining, mass social housing, universal childcare, and reformed capital gains and inheritance taxation are others. UK campaigners cite ONS, WID, IFS, and the Wealth and Assets Survey. British data, British problem, British debate. Daniel does not. We all can see why.















There's a difference between normal people spending money and really rich people spending money. And it explains why our economy is failing.


